Need help IDing South American cichlid (Oscar?)

Hi there, long time since I've posted here.

I'm fairly confidant this is an oscar, it was in a tank with both juvi albino tiger oscars and convicts. But that being said, I'm more sure its not a convict then I am sure it is an oscar. Someone mentioned it may be a wild morph, or it might just be in bad health and stressed considering the other obvious problems it has. But before I start making plans to grow it up to add with my other oscars, I need to be 200% sure this is in fact a very small baby oscar.

 

Looks like an oscar to me too.

 

I'm not sure what it is, but I don't think it's an Oscar, its eye is much bigger than the Oscar next to it and it's a color morph I've never seen before

 

I'm not sure what it is, but I don't think it's an Oscar, its eye is much bigger than the Oscar next to it and it's a color morph I've never seen before

See this is what I thought. I have both a normal tiger and a red albino. And even with some intense googling, I've never seen a grey oscar. Some people mentioned wild, but even wild caught wilds have some pattern to them. This guy is just straight up boring fish grey

Looks like an oscar to me too.

What color would it be? I've never seen anything like it...

 

What color would it be? I've never seen anything like it...

Perhaps he is a stressed “rust” variant or whatever it’s called? (The one that’s like all orange)

 

Doesn't look like convict or oscar, but I'm not sure what.

 

Perhaps he is a stressed “rust” variant or whatever it’s called? (The one that’s like all orange)

the reds? I thought so. Someone elsewhere said perhaps a green oscar? In my experience, the reds/oranges dont fade when they get stressed. Only the black/grey areas do

Doesn't look like convict or oscar, but I'm not sure what.

Right? At this point, I'm mostly looking to confirm its not an african. After that well... time will tell I suppose

 

Oh, and if you said it was from South America, it is definitely not an oscar or convict cichlid. Both of those fish are African.

 

Oh, and if you said it was from South America, it is definitely not an oscar or convict cichlid. Both of those fish are African.

Oscars are from the Amazon Basin... and convicts are technically Central American but also not African...

 

I thought they were african. Sorry.

 

I thought they were african. Sorry.

It's all good, we're all here to learn My main concern if it turns out to not be an Oscar is it may be an African Cichlid which would not work out well with my current tanks.

 

I think this looks similar: types of grey cichlids - Bing

 

I think this looks similar: types of grey cichlids - Bing

No, that's a Malawi cichlid. Completely different.

Looks indeed like a juvenile Oscar with very uncommon colouration. But the shape of the caudalfin and something around the eye/mouth region is off and I can't put my finger on it.

chromedome52 should have a look at this.

 

No, that's a Malawi cichlid. Completely different.

Looks indeed like a juvenile Oscar with very uncommon colouration. But the shape of the caudalfin and something around the eye/mouth region is off and I can't put my finger on it.

chromedome52 should have a look at this.

Agreed... there's something there that isn't quite right but I can't place it. The fins appear to be melting in some areas, I presume from ammonia burns which shouldn't be too much of a problem to fix up... There's just something I can't quite place about it...

 

Did a little checking, as I thought I knew what kind of Oscar it is, but the dark eye had me wondering. However, the Copper strain of Oscar can have a dark eye, as I found photos of adults with it. Copper is similar to Red, but with a little more yellowish tint to it.

The dark markings in the fins are growth indicators, young of most of the monochromatic strains show that when very young. The dark eye looks bigger, but it really is not. Copper does not seem to be a very common variant, which is why it had everyone confused. But no question that it is an Oscar.

 

Did a little checking, as I thought I knew what kind of Oscar it is, but the dark eye had me wondering. However, the Copper strain of Oscar can have a dark eye, as I found photos of adults with it. Copper is similar to Red, but with a little more yellowish tint to it.

The dark markings in the fins are growth indicators, young of most of the monochromatic strains show that when very young. The dark eye looks bigger, but it really is not. Copper does not seem to be a very common variant, which is why it had everyone confused. But no question that it is an Oscar.

Thanks for looking into it! So bottom line is whatever color he is, it's not something common. And definitely not something petsmart would normally be selling, much less for 10$