I'll tell you from experience zunedog, you will only catch those Africans if you take out your decorations. They are so fast and very aware of the net! Oh man I hate catching my KenyI and jewels! Some lfs and lfs will sell fish in breeding pairs (like the one I go to), they are more expensive but worth it imo. Good luck with your tank, I know it's been giving you a major headache. Hang in there bud. It will all be worked out, welcome to the world of cichlids (you waned more of a challenge, it WILL pay off) they are amazingly interesting.