Need a second opinion, male or female?

I posted on the Betta forums and was assured that my little girl was infact a little girl...but I am increasingly suspicious. I got her from a Betta breeder cull tank, so was sure she was female as they rarely cull males. She has never shown an eggspot despite getting a lil chunky every now and then. She also frequently builds bubble nests (I know this isn't unheard of tho).
When I first got her:


Today:

 

Beautiful shot but i'm not a betta specialist as some members are who will reply to you

The first step in betta courtship is to build a nest of bubbles in which the offspring, if there are any, will live until they mature enough to swim on their own. Most male bettas build bubble nests regardless of whether a female is in the vicinity. This behavior is a strong indication of a happy, healthy betta.

 

That's a Male betta ! Fiesty looking one too

 

If there is a bubble nest it is possibly male. The females only lay the eggs and the males build the bubble nests and guard the eggs. The shorter tail may just mean he's a plakat. Can you post a pic of the bubble nest it's possbile that the bubbles aren't actually a nest and are just her using her labrynth organ which can dispell bubbles that can collect together. I know when my males blow bubble nests it is quite large and many times breaches the the surface of the water, at one point it was an inch tall and 2 inches wide lol. My boys have longer fins but the "buff" body shape is the same as your betta.

"The only way to be sure that your Betta is a female is to look under its belly for an ovipositor. The ovipositor is a small tube from which female bettas dispel their eggs. To the naked eye, it looks like a small white dot located behind the ventral fins. Only females have an ovipositor and it is the only true-fire way to know that your Betta is a female and not a Plakat."

 

I looked up images of the ovipositor (only shows up on fully mature females). It's easy to see so I'm gonna say you definitely have a male there.

 

I posted on the Betta forums and was assured that my little girl was infact a little girl...but I am increasingly suspicious. I got her from a Betta breeder cull tank, so was sure she was female as they rarely cull males. She has never shown an eggspot despite getting a lil chunky every now and then. She also frequently builds bubble nests (I know this isn't unheard of tho).
When I first got her:

No I am actually pretty sure she's a female.... mixed opinions hahah

 

No I am actually pretty sure she's a female.... mixed opinions hahah

But... what traits lead you to believe this? Facts an not just opinions. The OP has a guenuine question and wants to find out for certain.

 

Long pectorals and longer analfin lead me to believe male. Behavioral traits also point this way.

 

Long pectorals and longer analfin lead me to believe male. Behavioral traits also point this way.

Will this pic help as it's a male betta.



How to Identify Different Betta Fish

 

But... what traits lead you to believe this? Facts an not just opinions. The OP has a guenuine question and wants to find out for certain.

the thing is... her pectoral fins aren't really that long? and both her body and face shape is much more like that of a female betta.

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especially the face is what makes me question it. I've had male and female bettas and their faces exactly look like the sketches in this picture, differentiating between the male and female faces.

 

Also going to throw out, I do not see the triangular ovary shape of a female. And this fish has a "beard"




Just a very nicely built robust male round tail. Not a build often seen in todays bettas, which are often slI'm and slender. This is a very healthy fish.

 

the thing is... her pectoral fins aren't really that long? and both her body and face shape is much more like that of a female betta.

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especially the face is what makes me question it. I've had male and female bettas and their faces exactly look like the sketches in this picture, differentiating between the male and female faces.

You brought up a drawing image of a splenden. Neither the male or female match the OP’s betta fish.

A more accurate comparison (which also shows the OP’s betta to look more male):


Also MissNoodle is right. Female bettas do not have a visible beard when unflared. It’s just more difficult to see because a bettas beard is darker and so is the main body color of the OP’s male.

Also going to throw out, I do not see the triangular ovary shape of a female. And this fish has a "beard"

 

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