My Take On "balance" In A Planted Tank

Vishaquatics
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HI FishLore,

Many people often use the term "balance" in a planted tank discussion and it's understandable that there may be some confusion on this term due to it's vagueness.

Here is my take on the term "balance" in a planted aquarium and how it can be applied to make a better planted aquarium.

Simply put, balance in a planted tank describes the relationship between three variables: light, nutrients, and CO2 in order to have plants that are thriving and tanks that are algae free.

How do you know when your tank is "balanced"? Your tank is balanced when your plants are of perfect health (no melting, rotting, losing leaves) and there is no algae in the aquarium.

Balance in a planted aquarium is not very difficult to achieve and involves striking the perfect relationship between light, CO2, and nutrients through trial and error. As a general rule, CO2 and nutrients are calibrated to the light. Essentially, light is the driving force in the balancing of a planted aquarium. Light is the independent variable and CO2/nutrients are the dependents.

Planted tanks with a low amount of light have a lower demand for CO2 and fertilizers and grow much slower due to decreased photosynthesis levels.

Planted tanks with a high amount of light have a far higher demand for CO2 and fertilizers as the photosynthesis rate is greatly increased.

Many people may also make a case for flow and filtration to be part of the variables, but they are incorporated under the three original variables. In order to properly distribute CO2 and nutrients in a tank, there needs to be adequate flow (usually provided by filtration and/or powerheads). Planted tanks, if planted and fertilized/injected sufficiently, do not need filtration as the plants take care of that, but I always recommend filtration as it allows for a higher margin of error in the aquarium.

If you have algae or your plants aren't thriving, you must calibrate the system to adjust to the light levels. This leaves you with two factors to address: CO2 and nutrients.

Using a comprehensive fertilizer (like Thrive by NilocG or a complete array of dry fertilizers) will help you to knock out the nutrient factor as you will be dosing enough of the correct nutrients for your plants to thrive.

The last factor, which is the MOST difficult to calibrate is CO2. Many tanks often have a light too powerful and when coupled with insufficient nutrients levels and low levels of CO2, the plants do terribly and algae flourishes. I recommend CO2 injection for all planted tank keepers (from novices to advanced) as it is not as expensive or complicated as it is made to be.

If you still inject CO2, use ferts, and still have issues with plant health or algae, it indicates that you either aren't injecting enough, your CO2 distribution is poor, or your CO2 levels fluctuate (common with DIY CO2).

Calibrating CO2 is simple. First, ensure your CO2 is distributed correctly throughout the tank. My favorite method of distribution is using a powerhead and feeding the bubbles into the intake. A fine mist comes out of the outtake and this CO2 mist is pushed throughout the tank. In order to know if the distribution is good, the plants at the other end of the tank should be swaying slightly in the current. Second, determining the correct level of CO2 is simple and doesn't need a drop checker. Increase the CO2 slowly over the period of a few hours until the fish start to gasp at the surface. Slowly bump down the CO2 by small increments until the fish return to normal behavior. This borderline level between stress and normal behavior is the perfect level of CO2 for your aquarium. As a general rule, CO2 should be turned on an hour before the lights come on and an hour before the lights turn off. Use timers for the lights and CO2 to ensure consistency. Last, use a pressurized CO2 system and a good regulator in order to ensure that there are no fluctuations in CO2 levels throughout the day.

On the other hand, you can try calibrating the light to a low enough level to where you can use a low amount of ferts and no CO2 injection. This method is far harder than the former of calibrating nutrients and CO2 to the light. This method takes a far longer time to see results and often doesn't end in success.

Set a standard photoperiod of 7 or 8 hours and put this on a timer. A dimmable light such a Finnex Planted+ is a good light to use as the intensity is variable. Lower the intensity of the light over a period of a few weeks/months until plant health improves and algae growth slows. The main issue with this method is that some plants need brighter light levels so your plants must be low light tolerant such as bacopa, dwarf sag, rotala rotundifolia, broadleaf watersprite, anacharis, hornwort, guppy grass, crypts, creeping jenny, ludwigia repens, etc.

Thanks for reading!
 
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AquaticJ
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Great info, I will poke at you a little and say if there’s no algae, it’s unbalanced. In nature, algae is everywhere. Not that it really matters lol!
 
angelcraze
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Lol, I consider my tanks pretty balanced by now, but I still get a bit of algae sometimes too.

But I enjoyed the write up and fully agree except for the co2 bit cuz I haven't jumped into it yet and just don't know about it.
 
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Vishaquatics
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  • #4
Great info, I will poke at you a little and say if there’s no algae, it’s unbalanced. In nature, algae is everywhere. Not that it really matters lol!

Thanks!

Good point you bring up there, but there are many streams and ponds I've visited where there is no algae visible to the naked eye and they are extremely lush with aquatic plant growth. It's absolutely stunning to see. Water is crystal clear and everything is thriving. Looks like true balance to me IMO but most ecosystems do have algae
 
Nick72
  • #5
Thank you Vishaquatics (Koiman) for yet another interesting read.

I have a question regarding strong lights.

I'm currently using a Fluval Planted 3.0 LED, 18 inches above the substrate.

This should be delivering about 60 Par to the substrate.

I've noticed that some plants will show fast growth, but as they reach 9 inches (now receiving a much higher Par of over 150) the new / highest leaves tend to brown or even white, sometimes with over- sized leaves.

Is this always due to a lack of nutrients or are some lights simply too strong for some plants?
 
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Vishaquatics
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  • #6
Thank you Vishaquatics (Koiman) for yet another interesting read.

I have a question regarding strong lights.

I'm currently using a Fluval Planted 3.0 LED, 18 inches above the substrate.

This should be delivering about 60 Par to the substrate.

I've noticed that some plants will show fast growth, but as they reach 9 inches (now receiving a much higher Par of over 150) the new / highest leaves tend to brown or even white, sometimes with over- sized leaves.

Is this always due to a lack of nutrients or are some lights simply too strong for some plants?

What type of plants exhibit this? Do you have a picture?

By your description, I'm leaning toward a nutrient deficiency (especially since there is white) which may indicate a lack of micros, specifically iron. However, I cannot be sure until I have pictures.

IME, there is no light too strong for 90% of plants when given enough CO2. There are a select few plants I have experience with such as hygrophila corymbosa, staurogyne repens, and brazilian pennywort that will start to develop multiple issues if grown in pure, unfiltered direct sunlight even when provided with adequate nutrients and CO2.
 
Nick72
  • #7
What type of plants exhibit this? Do you have a picture?

By your description, I'm leaning toward a nutrient deficiency (especially since there is white) which may indicate a lack of micros, specifically iron. However, I cannot be sure until I have pictures.

IME, there is no light too strong for 90% of plants when given enough CO2. There are a select few plants I have experience with such as hygrophila corymbosa, staurogyne repens, and brazilian pennywort that will start to develop multiple issues if grown in pure, unfiltered direct sunlight even when provided with adequate nutrients and CO2.

My clearest examples were a little while back before I started injecting CO2.

Here is an example from today.

I'm not sure what plant this is, but it was sold out of the LFS 'needs CO2' tank, and was supposed to grow pink.


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As you can see I'm getting a rusty brown instead of pink.
 
jmaldo
  • #8
Some "Good" info.
But...
I recommend CO2 injection for all planted tank keepers (from novices to advanced) as it is not as expensive or complicated as it is made to be.

As a relative "Newbie" to keeping "Wet Pets" and "Underwatering Gardening" just a bit over 2 years. For me it was a daunting task just to learn to care for the fish properly let alone plants. I have been somewhat successful with both. And to add CO2 injecting to the equation? Not sure for a "Novice".
I have to admit I seriously considered the CO2 and did quite a bit of research. But there were so many posts of I "gassed my fish" or "Brand new CO2 rigs for sale", I decided to get more experience first. Still not sure I will ever try it but you never know.
So here is a pic of my 55 gallon Community tank after about 1 year without C02 injecting, (I did try some Excel) and yes there is some algae. I agree "Balance" is required, but every tank is as different as a "Fingerprint" (inhabitants, plants, water, light, ferts).
Just my .02

 
andrearamirezo91
  • #9
Vishaquatics (Koiman) Thank you for an informative post!

What you said about the DIY CO2 might explain why I failed so terribly last time I tried a planted tank. I had a DIY CO2 system and it was never constant. I kept on dealing with terrible algae blooms and ultimately ended up getting so discouraged after almost a whole year of trying to make it work that I just ripped the tank apart and got rid of it.

I'm trying again with a low tech setup now to see how it goes. I see that you mentioned Thrive, which a lot of people seem to like. I'm currently using flourish excel with Mag-Float Green Ease and Grow fertilizer.. but am starting to wonder if I should switch to Thrive since so many people seem to love it.
 
Vishaquatics
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  • #10
My clearest examples were a little while back before I started injecting CO2.

Here is an example from today.

I'm not sure what plant this is, but it was sold out of the LFS 'needs CO2' tank, and was supposed to grow pink.

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As you can see I'm getting a rusty brown instead of pink.

The plant you're picturing is ammania gracilis transitioning from emersed state to submerged state. I've personally grown this plant and in lower light, it will exhibit a more brownish color than bright pink or red. It also only achieves that amazingly bright red/pink color when there is high light, nitrate limitation, and an abundance of iron and phosphate in conjunction with proper CO2 injection. This ammania looks very healthy considering it is transitioning from emersed to submersed and is in a relatively low light setting. The leaves don't appear oversized and look normal for submersed leaves
 
Vishaquatics
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
Some "Good" info.
But...


As a relative "Newbie" to keeping "Wet Pets" and "Underwatering Gardening" just a bit over 2 years. For me it was a daunting task just to learn to care for the fish properly let alone plants. I have been somewhat successful with both. And to add CO2 injecting to the equation? Not sure for a "Novice".
I have to admit I seriously considered the CO2 and did quite a bit of research. But there were so many posts of I "gassed my fish" or "Brand new CO2 rigs for sale", I decided to get more experience first. Still not sure I will ever try it but you never know.
So here is a pic of my 55 gallon Community tank after about 1 year without C02 injecting, (I did try some Excel) and yes there is some algae. I agree "Balance" is required, but every tank is as different as a "Fingerprint" (inhabitants, plants, water, light, ferts).
Just my .02

Beautiful tank. I recommend CO2 even for novices because I've personally recommended them to my novice customers and friends who have all had outstanding success. It would definitely be daunting if they were trying to do injection with no help from other people but looking on forums or contacting me has proven to help them tremendously. I have a friend who was new to planted aquariums not too long ago and I convinced him to do CO2 from the start. He has only had success from then and absolutely loves his planted aquariums. CO2 injection is very very simple if you

1) watch the fish
2) buy the right setup/equipment
3) don't cut corners

I wish I had CO2 in the beginning because it would've been easier for me to grow my plants and prevent algae. I didn't even know pressurized CO2 was a thing until much later on in my fish keeping experience.
 
Vishaquatics
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  • #12
Vishaquatics (Koiman) Thank you for an informative post!

What you said about the DIY CO2 might explain why I failed so terribly last time I tried a planted tank. I had a DIY CO2 system and it was never constant. I kept on dealing with terrible algae blooms and ultimately ended up getting so discouraged after almost a whole year of trying to make it work that I just ripped the tank apart and got rid of it.

I'm trying again with a low tech setup now to see how it goes. I see that you mentioned Thrive, which a lot of people seem to like. I'm currently using flourish excel with Mag-Float Green Ease and Grow fertilizer.. but am starting to wonder if I should switch to Thrive since so many people seem to love it.

DIY CO2 is quite difficult to stabilize and causes horrible algae blooms like you experienced. Pressurized CO2 is much better to use and much cheaper in the long run.

I definitely recommend Thrive. One of my customers recently used ThriveC (the lowtech liquid carbon version of Thrive) and is seeing great results. They are able to grow ammania gracilis and ludwigia minI super red lowtech with Thrive C which is quite impressive. All Thrive products I've tried have been absolutely great for lowtech tanks.
 
andrearamirezo91
  • #13
DIY CO2 is quite difficult to stabilize and causes horrible algae blooms like you experienced. Pressurized CO2 is much better to use and much cheaper in the long run.

I definitely recommend Thrive. One of my customers recently used ThriveC (the lowtech liquid carbon version of Thrive) and is seeing great results. They are able to grow ammania gracilis and ludwigia minI super red lowtech with Thrive C which is quite impressive. All Thrive products I've tried have been absolutely great for lowtech tanks.

Thank you So is ThriveC only a source of carbon? It would basically be a substitute for excel, for example. Am I correct? If so, what comprehensive fertilizer should I pair with it? Or would the ThriveC alone suffice?

Excuse my ignorance lol. I have a lot to learn in this area.
 
GlennO
  • #14
My understanding is that ThriveC is a complete fertilizer with liquid carbon added. I'm not sure I like the term liquid carbon since I'm not sure how well it functions in that regard. For me it is an algaecide since that is what I primarily use it for.
 
Nick72
  • #15
The plant you're picturing is ammania gracilis transitioning from emersed state to submerged state. I've personally grown this plant and in lower light, it will exhibit a more brownish color than bright pink or red. It also only achieves that amazingly bright red/pink color when there is high light, nitrate limitation, and an abundance of iron and phosphate in conjunction with proper CO2 injection. This ammania looks very healthy considering it is transitioning from emersed to submersed and is in a relatively low light setting. The leaves don't appear oversized and look normal for submersed leaves

Thank you Vishaquatics (Koiman) - that's very helpful.

I'm a little bit surprised that you describe my lighting as 'relatively low'. I'm using a Fluval Planted 3.0 (46W) 3ft LED, 18 inches above the substrate.

Therefore the substrate should be at 65 Par and the mid water column much higher.

Is this really considered 'relatively low light'?
 
Vishaquatics
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  • #16
Thank you Vishaquatics (Koiman) - that's very helpful.

I'm a little bit surprised that you describe my lighting as 'relatively low'. I'm using a Fluval Planted 3.0 (46W) 3ft LED, 18 inches above the substrate.

Therefore the substrate should be at 65 Par and the mid water column much higher.

Is this really considered 'relatively low light'?

Where did you get the PAR reading from? Did you use a PAR meter?

Ammania gracilis is considered a medium to high light. It will only show it's true colors in extremely high PAR levels 100+umols. So this light would relatively low compared to the needs for ammannia gracilis to show its true colors.
 
Vishaquatics
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  • #17
Thank you So is ThriveC only a source of carbon? It would basically be a substitute for excel, for example. Am I correct? If so, what comprehensive fertilizer should I pair with it? Or would the ThriveC alone suffice?

Excuse my ignorance lol. I have a lot to learn in this area.

No problem at all. ThriveC is a source of 'liquid carbon' and while I don't think that's a reliable or legitimate source of CO2, NilocG supposedly created an alternate formula and theirs is different from excel. The actual ThriveC product is liquid carbon combined with their classic Thrive all in one. So it's more bang for your buck
 
Nick72
  • #18
Where did you get the PAR reading from? Did you use a PAR meter?

Ammania gracilis is considered a medium to high light. It will only show it's true colors in extremely high PAR levels 100+umols. So this light would relatively low compared to the needs for ammannia gracilis to show its true colors.

Just the manufacturers stated Par at various depths.

I was worried my lights were too strong and browning the leaves. Sounds like I've got nothing to worry about.

I've only had the Ammania Gracillis in the tank for a few days. So I guess I'll wait and see if the reds and pinks develop with time.

Thanks again for all the information.
 
andrearamirezo91
  • #19
No problem at all. ThriveC is a source of 'liquid carbon' and while I don't think that's a reliable or legitimate source of CO2, NilocG supposedly created an alternate formula and theirs is different from excel. The actual ThriveC product is liquid carbon combined with their classic Thrive all in one. So it's more bang for your buck

Awesome! Should be coming in the mail tomorrow
 
Nick72
  • #20
Where did you get the PAR reading from? Did you use a PAR meter?

Ammania gracilis is considered a medium to high light. It will only show it's true colors in extremely high PAR levels 100+umols. So this light would relatively low compared to the needs for ammannia gracilis to show its true colors.

Well a couple of days on and the stems had grown to around 12 inches.

I cut them down to around 5 inches today, replanting the tops which are now showing some nice pinks.

Also replanting the bottoms, which had a nice little root growth, but we're still showing the round emersed growth leaves, to another area of the tank.


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Vishaquatics
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  • #21
Nick72 I'm sorry, I had no idea what I was thinking earlier. The plant you have is actually rotala rotundifolia. Once I saw the second picture you sent it became more obvious. Apologies for the misidentification.

All stems will eventually convert to submersed growth. This is a very easy plant to cultivate and it doesn't need CO2 either. This plant also grows extremely fast
 
angelcraze
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Well a couple of days on and the stems had grown to around 12 inches.

I cut them down to around 5 inches today, replanting the tops which are now showing some nice pinks.

Also replanting the bottoms, which had a nice little root growth, but we're still showing the round emersed growth leaves, to another area of the tank.

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That's rotala rotundifolia?

Oops didn't see Vishaquatic's post. Anyway, that one doesn't need high light. It will be fine with your lighting.
 

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