My plants and Liquid Carbon

kbn
  • #1
Hello everyone, I recently ordered some plants online and also liquid carbon for algae control. My plant list is:
Crypt tropica
Crypt wendtii
Crypt spiralis narrow
Crypt lucens
Echinodorus parviflora tropica
Blyxa japonica
Dwarf hairgrass
Tiger lotus
Hygeophila polysperma regular and rosanervig
Cabomba
Helanthium tenellum
Are any of these sensitive to liquid carbon? I'll be dosing just about a pump every other day for the initial month or so for algae control. Also plan to have some salvinia
 

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ruud
  • #2
Riccia, mosses, liverwort, valls are very prone....top of my head.

If I'd really worry about algae myself (which I don't), I'd probably keep the lights off for a month.

A good substitute for liquid carbon are neocaridina shrimp and snails. They graze on plant leaves non stop.

Anyways, good luck and hopefully you'll share some images.
 

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Zer0Fame
  • #3
Hey,

Cryptos can be sensitive to that stuff, too, if you overdo it.
 
Blacksheep1
  • #4
Some crypts are sensitive to a dirty look across the room , can you dose before the crypts are in ?
You could place the sensitive plants in a holding tank for a temporary fix maybe.

I’d like to assume that the algae would reduce with all the new plants in time , variables have stopped me being positive on that though :)
 
Frank the Fish guy
  • #5
Nerite snails and siamese algae eaters are my algae eaters. Please consider this simple natural algae control method rather than using a biocide that is harmful to aquatic life.
 
yeti79
  • #6
I have a tank with a variety of crypts. Since adding nerite snails there have been no algae issues.
 

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kbn
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
Ukw I might just get a nerite actually. Horned or tiger nerite?
Nerite snails and siamese algae eaters are my algae eaters. Please consider this simple natural algae control method rather than using a biocide that is harmful to aquatic life.
Just purchased a hirned nerite
 
FishDin
  • #8
Snails will not eat all types of algae, but they do an excellent job just the same. They won't eat black beard algae and I don't think they will eat hair algae. Not sure about green spot algae.

Nerites devour diatoms, which is common in new tanks.

"Liquid carbon" will damage plants if it contacts them when out of the water. Don't apply directly to plants. Applying it too close to sensitive plants, like moss, even if submerged can cause serious damage.

It will be the most damageing to things with a simple cell structure. So bacteria, algae, and any primitive plants like moss and ferns and others mentioned are most sensitive.
 
kbn
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
Snails will not eat all types of algae, but they do an excellent job just the same. They won't eat black beard algae and I don't think they will eat hair algae. Not sure about green spot algae.

Nerites devour diatoms, which is common in new tanks.

"Liquid carbon" will damage plants if it contacts them when out of the water. Don't apply directly to plants. Applying it too close to sensitive plants, like moss, even if submerged can cause serious damage.

It will be the most damageing to things with a simple cell structure. So bacteria, algae, and any primitive plants like moss and ferns and others mentioned are most sensitive.
I've seen people online use it liberally in new tanks. Won't that interfere with their cycle then? I'm not gonna use it too much but maybe a squir every other day or 3 days for the first few weeks. I've ordered a horned nerite too.
 
ruud
  • #10
I'm sure it kills micro-organisms too, yes. Or "the cycle" if you will.

Dim the lights initially very strong or don't use them at all. This way, you don't have algae, you don't stress plants, and you allow bacteria populations to grow. It's a win-win-win.

I'd rely more on a simple and free biology lesson, than on a chemical used in hospitals.
 
Frank the Fish guy
  • #11
Snails will not eat all types of algae, but they do an excellent job just the same. They won't eat black beard algae and I don't think they will eat hair algae. Not sure about green spot algae.
I spotted my Gouramis eating hair algae! I used to remove it, but now I leave it and the Gouramis keep it healthy but in check.
 
FishDin
  • #12
Dim the lights initially very strong or don't use them at all. This way, you don't have algae, you don't stress plants, and you allow bacteria populations to grow. It's a win-win-win.
I would do this even if you use the Glutaraldehyde.

Yes, you should assume it will kill bacteria. That is what is mainly used for in hospitals I think.
 

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