My Oranda.

MADFISH3
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  • #41
don't put live plants in the gravel. let them float or the goldfish will get them out of the gravel. They dig out plants and will eat some, so do some research on the plants.
Thankyou. I've never been told that before. I will do some research on it.
Hopefully I will have a healthy fish again soon.
 
Sarah73
  • #42
Thankyou. I've never been told that before. I will do some research on it.
Hopefully I will have a healthy fish again soon.

Yes hopeful keep me updated please.
 
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MADFISH3
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  • #43
Yes hopeful keep me updated please.
Help PLEASE!!!!!!
I've done water changes as I was advised to do.
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate >20.

Looks as though he has fin rot on his tail fins.
Also when I was cleaning him today I noticed some thread like worms in the water. There weren't lots. I managed to catch one or 2 and got some photos. Can anyone tell me what they are and how to treat if needed.
I really don't want to lose him.
Thanks

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Sarah73
  • #44
Help PLEASE!!!!!!
I've done water changes as I was advised to do.
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate >20.

Looks as though he has fin rot on his tail fins.
Also when I was cleaning him today I noticed some thread like worms in the water. There weren't lots. I managed to catch one or 2 and got some photos. Can anyone tell me what they are and how to treat if needed.
I really don't want to lose him.
Thanks
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Is your tank dirty or did any of your other goldfish have this disease before? And the worm sounds like planaria. They aren't harmful to your fish. They appear when you have uneaten food in the gravel. If you wanna get rid of them there are a few ways to do that. First clean the gravel everyday for maybe 5 days, so all of the food is picked up. Second, add aquarium salt to your aquarium(1 tablespoon for 5 gallon MAX). Others are chemicals which I hate using, but it's up to you.
 
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tanki60o
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Red streaks are a sign of bad water quality, so if the water quality is good, add some aquarium salt and it should be fine,
 
TexasDomer
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Most fin rot can be cured with more frequent water changes.

Red streaks in the fins can be signs of septicemia.

I'd stay away from aquarium salt. It's not necessary to heal your fish, and it can do more harm than good. Salt baths are great for certain things, but I wouldn't add aquarium salt to the entire tank.

Agreed, could be detritus worms.
 
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tanki60o
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Aquarium salt is a great technique to cure ich and fin rot, actually. It's much easier on the fish than medications. I'm not an expert on aquarium salt, so what harm can it do? I do know that it irritates the skin if it hits the fish, but what else?
 
Sarah73
  • #48
Aquarium salt is a great technique to cure ich and fin rot, actually. It's much easier on the fish than medications. I'm not an expert on aquarium salt, so what harm can it do? I do know that it irritates the skin if it hits the fish, but what else?

Aquarium salt doesn't always cure ich. When any of my fish have gotten it, they haven't made it with salt. I always put salt in when I do water changes for them.
 
TexasDomer
  • #49
Most cases of ich can be successfully treated with heat, no salt or meds required.
 
Sarah73
  • #50
Most cases of ich can be successfully treated with heat, no salt or meds required.

80 works? For cories and stuff they don't like the heat '
 
TexasDomer
  • #51
80 works? For cories and stuff they don't like the heat '
86 F is recommended. And cool water fish can stand the heat temporarily, as long as you bring it up and down gradually.
 
Sarah73
  • #52
86 F is recommended. And cool water fish can stand the heat temporarily, as long as you bring it up and down gradually.

Hmm k
 
tanki60o
  • #53
Salt prevents secondary infections though. And yes, it doesn't always treat ich, but if caught early it usually can be treated with just higher temp and salt.
 
MinhMai
  • #54
Mild treatments like melafix or pimafix made from tea tree oil and some other tree oil, may help him heal his fins more quickly. It worked for some of my fish. As for drifting around listlessly, it's likely due to being ill overall from the fin damage. Clean water is a must to get nitrates down to 5-10 and you can do as much as a 90% water change with goldfish without stressing them out so long as the new water is temperature matched.

I have a single Oranda and a juvenile pleco in a 45 gallon, the nitrates go up to 40ppm in about 2 weeks. Goldfish will dirty their water very quickly so frequent water changes is necessary in small tanks.

I'm not sure what the worms you found were. Probably detritus or planaria, unless you found them attached to your Shaemus' body or anal pore area.
 
Sarah73
  • #55
Mild treatments like melafix or pimafix made from tea tree oil and some other tree oil, may help him heal his fins more quickly. It worked for some of my fish. As for drifting around listlessly, it's likely due to being ill overall from the fin damage. Clean water is a must to get nitrates down to 5-10 and you can do as much as a 90% water change with goldfish without stressing them out so long as the new water is temperature matched.

I have a single Oranda and a juvenile pleco in a 45 gallon, the nitrates go up to 40ppm in about 2 weeks. Goldfish will dirty their water very quickly so frequent water changes is necessary in small tanks.

I'm not sure what the worms you found were. Probably detritus or planaria, unless you found them attached to your Shaemus' body or anal pore area.

10-20 is a good range of area for nitrates.
 

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