My new blood parrot and kenyi african blue cichlid

Hashsohail

Member
Hello lovely people,

I am having problems with my new freshwater fish.


I bought a new tank which is 45 gallon and cycled it for 1 week. Yesterday bought 2 new blood parrot fish and kenyI african blue cichlids. They have been very shy and too scared of everything. I have provided enough space for them to hide. They are too shy and are "not" eating at all. Non of fish african and parrots are not eating and too scared. I am afraid if they might starve to death. Please help I'm too stressed because I want them to eat :s

I tried feeding them "pellet" food which floats and left it in there for 5 min but they did not eat. I did repeat this practice in the evening again but non of the fish ate anything.

Thank you so much in advance and happy new year.


Plus please tellme which algae eater should I keep with them who does not get in conflict with parrots or kenyI african cichlids. Cheers
 

Aquarist

Member
Good morning and Welcome to Fish Lore!

I'm a bit concerned that your aquarium may not be cycled. How did you cycle this aquarium in 1 week? Did you use filter media from an established aquarium or a type of bacterial additive?

If you would be so kind, please complete your Aquarium Profile Information. This information will aid others with any responses they may have to your questions.

To access the Profile, click on Forum Actions in the bar close to the top of the screen. In the drop down box, click on Edit Profile. Be sure to hit SAVE when you are done.

Here is a link to the Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle <--link

A more friendly version:
https://www.fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/threads/nitrogen-cycle-a-newbies-friendly-guide.114096/

Bloody Parrot Info below, see post #5:


I'm not certain that you have a good combination of fish. African Cichlids should be a species only tank and not a community tank. Let's get more responses on this as I have not personally kept African Cichlids.


Best wishes for your tank and fish. I hope you enjoy the site.

Ken
 
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Hashsohail

Member
Thanks for the reply mate, I have updated my profile. No I have not run any type of cycle and I don't have test kits :s (not available in my city) lol .

I had goldfish tank but I sold it I got a new tank now for parrots and africans.

The shopkeeper guy said african cichlid which is 1.5 inch will live fine withh pareots and dollars :/

Please guide me. I should I make it a healthy tabk and what equipmet do inneed? I have alread spent a lot of money :/// thanks

Plus what algae eater should I keep to keep algae at bay? Which one do you recom? And the parrots and cichlids are not fighting at all they are now swimming almost together and mark their terroteries but (STILL NOT EATING) how should I fix that?
The heater temp is set to 28 but the thermometer shows 23 :mad:
 

Eienna

Member
I'm sorry, what country are you from? I've forgotten which flag that is.
You will definitely need a liquid test kit. If you can get the API Master kit somehow, please do. It may be available to you online somehow. Start changing half your water every day until you get the kit and can test your tank. Ammonia that the fish make could be making them sick. Usually bacteria take care of this but they need time to grow.

They might eat after they get used to the tank. Exactly how long have you had them in there?
What pellets are you giving them?
Can you get fresh food like vegetables or worms?
 

Aquarist

Member
Be sure to read all of the information within the links that I posted above in post #2 concerning the Nitrogen Cycle. It's crucial to fish keeping. If your tank is not cycled properly then your fish may suffer and pass due to ammonia poisoning. If there is a way for you to order a liquid test kit, I highly recommend it.

Do not over feed your fish simply because you may not see them eat. Once they settle into their new environment, then they should start eating.

Until your aquarium is cycled, I would not be adding any more fish.



Ken
 
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Hashsohail

Member
Hello

Hello all,

I am from the gorgeous pakistan

Basically I just figured out today went to the fish shop and asked the name of the fish again. The blue stripes fish is called "demadosI cichlid" according to him ita very rare and they blend well with parrot fish.

I am afraid I can not buy water test kits as they are "very" expensive here around $120 :s (too much)

I bought a new pleco suckerfish today to get rid of any algae and so far both the parrot fish are hiding in the cave and the tank looks healthy. Temp is 28 degrees celsius.


I did not run any cycle of the tank I just bought it along the fish set it up and released the fish :/

Please guide me how can I now help the tank and healthy bacteria to grow providing I have already fish now.


The water changes you are telling about sir? Does it have to be the exact same temp like the temp of the water alreadyy in the tank ? Ill do 20% change

Thank you for guiding me so well so far.

God bless america and its people.

Get well soon christi
 

Aquarist

Member
Good morning,

It's a shame the cost of a test kit is so high in your country. If you can't get a test kit, what about paper test strips? The paper strips are not the most accurate but they are better than nothing.



Can you find an Ammonia Alert like in the link below? Again, not the most accurate, but at least if you do have an ammonia issue, maybe the device will detect it soon enough that your fish will not be harmed. I use them as a back up to my liquid test kit, but I would not depend on them alone. You're kind of caught between a rock and hard place so to speak.



I would consider doing at least 50% water changes every couple of days for the next 4 to 6 weeks. Cycling a tank may take 4 to 8 weeks. Without a test kit, it is hard to say when your tank may be cycled. It takes the beneficial bacteria this long to grow.

Another option, would your local fish store be willing to share some of their filter media that you can place into your own filter? This will give the cycle process a jump start, and if you are given enough of it, it may cycle your tank within a few days to a week or two.

Yes, the new water going into the tank for a water change, needs to be the same temperature (within 1 or 2 degrees) as the water in the tank. This will prevent stress to your fish and possible prevent the ICH parasite. Add new water slowly.

Hopefully others will chime in with more ideas.

Best wishes for your tank and fish. Keep us posted on your progress.

Ken
 

JoannaB

Member
Welcome to fishlore!

Without a liquid test kit, it would be best to assume that the water in your tank will not be safe enough for fish for the next month or even two without daily large water changes. When you change water, do you have a water conditioner to add to the water to detoxify chlorine or chloramine? That's important if you are using tap water, since your government probably adds chlorine or chloramine to kill bacteria in the water, and it kills both bad and beneficial bacteria. For the fish tank you need to grow beneficial bacteria which will take care of fish wastes, and this takes about a month but may take less or longer - if you had a test kit you could find out when your beneficial bacteria are ready, without the test kit it is safer to assume it will take longer since you have no way to check whether it is done, so I would probably do large daily water changes for two months if I were you.

Please stop buying new fish. The more fish you have, the more waste they produce. While you are still growing the beneficial bacteria to take care of the fish waste, you want to not increase fish waste, since their waste is now toxic to your fish, and the more fish you have, the more beneficial bacteria you will need to grow before the tank becomes safe enough for your fish.
 

grfresconero

Member
HI and welcome to the best site on fish-keeping info. I would follow all the above comment`s ,
cause I had the same problem, got some info and to help the process used bacteria culture to save my pet`s. Did the job well.They are eating you guy`s. Many thank`s.

Con
 

Disc61

Member
HI Hash, Welcome to Fishlore, glad to have you with us. Ken and Joanna are right on target here.
If you can't get your hands on a Test strip or Kit ( and actually, even if you do at this point because with it you will find out your tank is not cycled) you really need to do daily water changes of at least 30% and like Joanna said, use a water conditioner. Prime or Safe is a very good product as it will nuetralize the ammonia in your tank for 24 hours.
Ken mentioned seeing if your petshop would share some of their filter media, with this option if you get enough your tank can be instantly cycled. good luck, and no more fish until this tank gets cycled. then we really need to discuss the fish and their compatability. I really do not think the African and the Parrot will work out together.
 
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Hashsohail

Member
Hello,

Wow thanks ken for that. I am trying to get my hands on the master water test kit will keep you guys posted.

I am going to change the water asap aroud 25% and yes I do use conditioner.

There are two of them, one is blue and the other one is transparent :s

Methylene blue and antI chlorine I both use 4 drops per gallon of water

What ill do is keep changin water every 2 days .

Last night I left a tiny pinch of pellet food and in te morning it was not there clearly the parrts and demadosI cichlid ate them

Today all the both parrots are in a submarine cave and not coming out but it seeming they are playing inside I can see them kissin from a hole :ss looo


The cichlid I mention before are nt african I spoke to te shopkeeper again today he said they are demasonI cichlid and they are beauty I read about that fish on internet people do have it with parrots and ge along well.


I had another fresh water tank a week back which I sold off. Fish in it had ich and I kept giving them medicine but ich comes back in a week againx

I bought this new lovely tank and I "DO NOT" want ich again and ill definitely will medicate water before adding it to the tank and won't be lazy abt it at all.

Ill keep you guys poster and no sir I will not get any more fish for next 1 month ))

I bough the sucker fish today and the water came with it of an already cycled tank of the petshop. I added that water to my tank, I believe that might help my tank cycle fadter ?

Thank you good people



ADDING PIC OF PARROTS IN THE SUBMAINE D
 

JoannaB

Member
Alternatively to filter media from fish store, do you know anyone else who has a fish tank (friend, family, neighbor, anyone?). It would speed things up significantly if you could get beneficial bacteria from an already established fish tank. It is best to get some filter media from their filter to put into yours (don't ask them though to give you all of theirs but rather to give you part of their filter media so that they do not loose all their bacteria in the process of sharing with you. Only accept such stuff from a fish tank with healthy fish because there is a risk of getting an illness that way as well. But if you know someone who has a tank that they have had for more than two months or longer, then getting some stuff from their tank could help you a lot. Some filter media would be best, because most bacteria live in filter, but anything else like some gravel or an ornament that has been in an established healthy tank could help your tank get the beneficial bacteria faster. Best, Joanna

EDIT: No, water will not help you cycle faster. Very few of the bacteria you want live in the water itself. They mostly live in the filter, in the gravel, and on surfaces including ornaments.

If you do get Ich again, which I hope you do not, but if you do, then I suggest you read about the natural heat method of fighting Ich by gradually increasing the heat in the tank. Ich is a parasite and it is one of the illnesses one risks getting when getting new fish or stuff from store or other tanks. In the future do not pour the store water into your tank because it will not give you beneficial bacteria, and it does have some risk that something may be in the water that you do not want to add to your tank.

EDIT2: I read that Methylene Blue kills all bacteria including the good sort, so I would strongly suggest you stop using it. Use the antI chlorine water conditioner though every time you add new water.
 

Disc61

Member
Hashsohail said:
Hello,


The cichlid I mention before are nt african I spoke to te shopkeeper again today he said they are demasonI cichlid and they are beauty I read about that fish on internet people do have it with parrots and ge along well.

/QUOTE]

The DemasonI Cichlid or The Pseudotropheus demasonI cichlid is definitely an African Cichlid. it is a species from the Mbuna Group from lake Malawi. The Blood Parrot is a South American Cichlid.
 

JoannaB

Member
I have read that demasonI cichlids are extremely aggressive, and should not be kept with less aggressive fish. I would worry about them attacking your blood parrots. Also demasonI require a large group to keep aggression in check and your tank I believe is not big enough for a large group of demasoni. If I were you, I would ask whether you can return the demasonI and in a month look for some less dangerous tank mates for your blood parrots. From all I read from other fishlore members who have them, blood parrots sound like a really fun fish. Enjoy them!
 

Tigress Hill

Member
I don't think this has been mentioned, but can you get ahold of a beneficial bacteria supplement such as Tetra Safe Start? This will speed up the process of your tank becoming established.

And to the forum!
 

Eienna

Member
Your other tank may have been getting ich from poor water quality, because it was probably not cycled either. Don't use the methylene blue unless you see ich or the fish start rubbing a lot (if they do this, try a large water change first). Do you know how to use a gravel vacuum? I can find a video on cleaning your tank if you do not.
 
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Hashsohail

Member
Hello people,

I can believe fishlore is too good you guys are giving me amazing answers and keeping track as if they are your too wow!

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Okay now some serious stuff

ICH IN MY TANK AGAIN :"( I bought a new tank and new fish to get rid of ich but its back now on my new parrot.(one of them) please suggest me why is ich not levin me alone?
Will ich keep on coming and leaving in my tank mow? Having ich is normal for the first time of a new tank setup.

Yes I do have a gravel vacuum. And yes I know how to use it )

But help me out I really want to keep my parrots get rid of ich asap

.


I will return damasounI now and won't get "anynew" fish at all for a month now until my tank gets perfect


I have undergravel filter. If I get submersible "CARTRIDGE" water filter will that me the best option to make my fish and tank perfect? Than I don't need to wait for bacteria to grow and all??
 

Aquarist

Member
Good morning,

Sorry to hear that you are dealing with ICH. Ich is usually brought on by the introduction of new fish already carrying the parasite and or stress, sudden temperature changes.

My treatment for ICH without Medications w/100% survival rate:

Increase the tanks temperature to 86 degrees and leave it there for a full two week period. Even if the fish appear to be free of the parasite, leave the temperature increased for the full two weeks. Raise the temperature slowly throughout the day. 2 degrees per hour should be fine.

Warmer water requires more oxygen so adding an air stone/supply line may help.

Do two gravel vacuums each week to remove the spores that fall off the fish and into the substrate. Make sure the new water is the same (86) temperature as what is in the tank.

Adding Garlic Guard or garlic juice onto the fish food 2 or 3 times each week will help to boost the fishes immune system. (link below for garlic juice):
minced garlic in a jar..just an example for those needing it
Garlic Guard:

Making your own juice, recipe:
"Benefits of garlic:

Purifies blood; detoxifies; lowers cholesterol levels; lowers blood pressure; blood thinner; prevents blood clots; boost immune system; prevents heart disease and strokes; destroys cancer cells; muscle relaxant; antibiotic; antifungal; suppresses growth of tumors
Using a medium size bulb; peel cloves apart, snip off ends; microwave cloves for 5 to 10 seconds to pop hulls; remove hulls; cut the length of the cloves in thin slices; place in cup of hot (from tap) water; cover, and let sit at room temperature for 12 hrs; mash the cloves and strain for immediate use; refrigerate until needed. good for two to three weeks.
The longer the cloves soak, the stronger the solution."

It may take more than 1 try when using Garlic. If the fish ignore the foods soaked in garlic, try it again the next day. Be careful not to over feed your fish!

The information above comes from the link below:


Vita Chem (for additional vitamins) added to the fish food and directly into the tank will help the fishes overall health. Follow the directions on the bottle.


It's been my experience that salt isn't necessary with the heat treatment.

ICH may appear to get worse, before it gets better. It may take several days before you see a decrease in the white spots/parasite.

It is not recommended to use the increased heat method along with medications. Choose 1 or the other. I only suggest medications if you are experiencing fish loss.

Once the ICH has been removed via the heat treatment, there is no need to treat again with medications. Remember you are trying to mimic a natural environment and the fewer chemicals and medications you use, the better off your fish are going to be.

Amphibians and Invertebrates are not susceptible to ICH.

I highly recommend Quarantine for all new fish:
Quick and dirty quarantine setup

Quarantine!

Best wishes for your fish!

Ken

My apologies for the back to back post but the one above is a bit long.

Your aquarium will always need and depend on the Nitrogen Cycle and the beneficial bacteria.

The link above will demonstrate it for you.

The beneficial bacteria needed to sustain the cycle is attached to all surface areas of the aquarium with the highest concentrations of it being in your filter.

Ken
 

Eienna

Member
I would suggest that the stress your fish are experiencing from the uncycled tank is what is triggering the ich.
 
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Hashsohail

Member
Woahhh aquarist48 that souds perfect.


Yes the sucker I bought bring ich with it aswell :/

I have raised the temp now and will do the gravel vacum each week for two weeks. I fed green pea to the fish and tey loved it I took off its shell and squeezed it into chewable size.

What I will do it I will always stay on the safe side and quarintine the fosh whichever I buy first before exposing it to the main tank.

About demosaI cichlid. I have seen the male(darker) one is very aggressive but over internet people suggested keep them in bunch. Shall I get 4 more of demosai? Or just get rid of the 2 I have and bring Oscars for my tank are oscars lovely ones and live well with parrots? What other fish option do I have to make them live with parrots
 

JDcichlidlover

Member
Your tank is only a 45 gal. Oscar cichlids get to be over a foot long and need a 75 gallon tank at least.
Oscars usually do great with parrots But you'll need to get a bigger tank if you want an oscar. imo a 45 is too small for a blood parrot.

With african cichlids you want a lot of fish. if you want to go with the demosaI then get rid of the parrot and the pleco (sucker) and get 4 more demosai. 5 of another species of african cichlid and another 5 of another african species. zebra, acai, lab, johannI are all good species to pick from.

if you decide to do african cichlids you will need a lot of hiding places. 3 per fish.
it is important to overstock the tank if you do african cichlids to reduce aggression. Otherwise you'll be wasting money because your fish will be ripping each other to shreads.

remember your nitrogen cycle, I'm glad you are waiting to put more fish in until later. If you decide to go with the african cichlids then I highly recommend getting an apI master freshwater kit. being overstocked means you need to watch your nitrates all the time.

Parrots are pretty peaceful. you could put larger growning tetras in with them like congos or columbian. giant danios might do well with them too. good luck
 

Eienna

Member
Demasoni, guys, not demosai.
 
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Hashsohail

Member
I figured out that my heater was broken today :mad: I bought a new submersible water filter. A new 200W heater and new pack of fresh food. The new heater is working well now and thermometer is showing 29 temp so its good.

I wa thinking should I get more african to make a group of them or just get rid of them??


Please tellme what colorful fish should I buy who can live with parrots ?

Should I return african demasonI aquarist 48v? And get oscars??

Thanks a lot aquarist48 for that helppp
 

JDcichlidlover

Member
a 45 gal tank is too small for oscars... large tetras like columbian and congo would be ok with your parrots.
 
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Hashsohail

Member
Guys I have both undergravel and submersible water filter installed now. Shall I take one of them out or let both of them work together???

Should I get tinfoils or silver dollars after a month? What is the difference between them?

Thanks for the lovely advice mate ))

Should I get that biological bacteria producing medicine for the tank? It was "TETRA" brand and around $15 ? Tellme isbit any good to produce healthy bacteria every time one changes water?
 

JDcichlidlover

Member
tinfoils and silver dollars get too big for your tank.
leave both filters in place.
the more good bacteria the better. Nutrofin carries a bacteria cycle starter too.
I like to use Prime for water changes
 

JoannaB

Member
If your tank is not cycled yet, then yes, getting the Tetra brand bacteria starter "Tetra Safe Start" is a good idea. It is actually the only brand regularly recommended by members on fishlore - one needs to be careful because some brands have the wrong kinds of bacteria, and if you add those then they might outcompete the good bacteria, so I would only recommend using a brand that is known to be good, so Tetra Safe Start is a good idea.

You would need to read on the bottle which size aquarium the bottle is designed for, and only use the right size or a bigger bottle. You shake it, and add the entire contents of the bottle all at once to your tank, and then do not do any water changes for the next two weeks, and if all goes well your tank will be cycled. However, even Tetra Safe Start does not work every time, and that's why it is important to even with this product have an accurate test kit to determine if it failed so one can keep ones fish safe.

If your tank is not cycled, it is a bad idea to add any new fish until it is.

If your tank is cycled however, then buying Tetra Safe Start is probably a waste of your money because only so many beneficial bacteria wil survive in your tank as are needed to process the waste of your fish. Any additional bacteria will die off. A possible exception to this is if out of some reason you want to add more than the recommended number of fish into your tank all at once, and then I suppose you could add a bottle of Tetra Safe Start at the safe time because if you add too many fish then the bacteria may take too long to multiply, and I think you could use TSS to boost bacteria then to avoid a mini-cycle. However, it is generally recommended to instead just add fish gradually enough so that the bacteria have a chance to catch up to higher waste load before you add more fish.
 
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Hashsohail

Member
Well put joanna.

Thank you so much for that. A rookie like me needs to learn alot. What I will do is that I will get tetra safe start and use that just in case its not cycled yet.

Just a tiny question? Do I have to use that very time I clean my aquarium aroun 100% and add tetra safe start? I believe its not needed for partial changes but needed for full aquarium clean up?


I have been given methyl blue and antI chlorine? Shall I only use antI chlorine when I add water and not methyl blue every time??
 

Disc61

Member
If you do a large water change you should use it, just topping off the tank you can just use a Declor. Meythelene blue is not a Declor but rather it is used to prevent and help cure disease. no need to use it.
As for stocking more fish you are really pushing the limits of the tank ( a 45 gl) with the Parrot fish( they should really be kept in at least 55gl), myself I would return the Parrot fish and add about 4-5 more Demasoni. What is interesting is most Mbuna require a 55 gl tank itself , but the DemasonI is actually considered a Dwarf Mbuna and only needs a foot print of 36 inches instead of 48 in. The tank you have is much more fitting for the Demasoni. JMO
 

Eienna

Member
Do not use the methylene blue unless your fish get sick, and even then there may be a better solution to the particular disease. It is by no means a cure-all. Use only the dechlorinator for regular water changes and top-ups.

With proper weekly maintenance you will never need to clean your aquarium 100%. Here is a video on correctly cleaning your tank.

You will only need SafeStart once if you follow these rules:

-Do not EVER use soap or detergent on your aquarium or anything in contact with it.

-Replace your filter media only when it is falling apart, and then only half at a time, about a month apart.

-To clean your filter media, rinse it in a bucket of old tank water. Do not overclean; just get the worst of the junk off to unclog it about once weekly. DO NOT let the media dry out.

-Allow at least 2-3 weeks between groups of fish, and add no more than the equivalent of about 5 small fish per batch. If you must add more fish at once, as in the case of african cichlids or other aggressives, go ahead and add another bottle to be safe.

-Do no water changes and do not add dechlorinator during 14 days after using the SafeStart. Just feed lightly for that period.
 
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Hashsohail

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Aquarist 48

I am thinking to feed cichlid food dipped in garlic juice.

I can't find garlic paste and I do have garlic at home. Shall I squeeze the garlic amd the juice coming out of it dipping the food in it? Any good???
 

Eienna

Member
That should work fine.
 
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Hashsohail

Member
HELP HELP HELP ITS THE THIRD DAY OF ICH AND ITS GETTING WORSE. I have raised the temp to 86 and I fed them food dipped in garlic juice and they have och today ALL OVER THEM.
 

Eienna

Member
Do a gravel vac to remove fallen spores...without seeing your fish, I can't be certain, but it's possible they're too far advanced for the heat method. They will look worse before they look better, so you'll have to use your own judgement. If it is bad enough that your fish are apparently getting weak, reduce the heat about 2 degrees per hour to 75F and go ahead and use the methylene blue.
 

Aquarist

Member
Good morning,

As mentioned above, ICH will appear worse before it gets better. I only suggest medication if one is experiencing fish loss. Otherwise, I would give the heat time to do what it needs to do. It may take a week for the spots to start disappearing.

Your tank, your call.

Best wishes for the fish.

Ken
 
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Hashsohail

Member
Heyyy aquarist48 thanks for the reply mate.


Yes they are not weak and the spots are 15% visible.


GUESS WHAT GUYS I RETURNED AFRICAN CICHLIDS. And bought 2 new yellow parrots. They second I introduced them to old parrots they love each other. They are not hiding anymore and playing with my hand :s I wonder the parotts were so streeesed cuz of africans :/// I am loving y parrotts nowwww wohooooo.



Yes fellows heat method is only I will do now. I vacum gravel 40% of the tank and poured healthy same temp dechlorinated fresh water today and will do again next week DD
 

Eienna

Member
With the heat method, you will need to vac every 3 days or so until the ich has been gone for at least one week.

I'm glad your fish are happier.
 

antidevil12

Member
Dear Hashsohail if you live in Lahore you can buy test kit from FishLand Aquarium for about Rs: 1700 Appx 18$ (dont buy tetra easy strips they are not accurate ). Plus don't buy any instant bacteria from any local store becz there are only snake oil and for ick use kosher salt (sada namak or khula namak) and set the temperature 28C for 10 days and change 25% water twice a week and feed your fish once a day.

And if your water supply is WASA then its good but if your water come form ground water or water well then you must store the water for 2 days then add it to aquarium. Always use SunSun Dechlorinator (I'm only taking about Pakistan I know others works such as Tetra, Prime etc but they are not available here) because all other dechlorinator don't remove heavy metal from water.. Hope this will help you
 

Eienna

Member
Be careful with the salt. Some fish cannot tolerate it. Many tetras, loaches and catfish do not do well with salt. Other than that, I'm glad there's someone here from your area because I really don't know what's available out there.
 
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Hashsohail

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Devil thanks a lot man.

You gave me information exactly what I wanf. I live in bahria town islamabad.

Could you please tellme where exactly is that shop in lahore so I could ask someone to buy it for me and bring it to islamabad.


Plus one of the fellow on the forum told me not to ad medicine. It was some random medicine or ich which I bought I did not add it. The temp of the tank is set to 30C AND I have not added even a little bit of salt.

Will the table salt? Iodine salt work ? Or shall I just get raw salt without any additives?

Apart from that the tank temp is set to 30C FROM 3 days and parrots at te moment are very very shy and scared to death because of me :///

I am using a local antI chlorine medicine which the fish shop guy gave me for 200 :/ it does nt have any brand only says ANTI CHLORINE lol
 

Aquarist

Member
Good morning,

Please do not use table salt in your aquarium. I do not know what is available in your area, but if you can find Freshwater Aquarium Salt, and you feel you need it, then that is what I would try to find.

Personally, I do not feel that freshwater fish ever need to be exposed to salt.

Ken
 

Eienna

Member
The iodine in table salt is harmful in concentrations above trace. It's in your best interest not to use it, if you use salt at all. Freshwater Aquarium Salt is best, as Ken says, but if you have no access to that you would have to use salt with no iodine. Again, best not to use it at all.
 

JoannaB

Member
Ah, that's probably why antidevil12 recommended kosher salt. Kosher salt has no iodide in it.
 

antidevil12

Member
Hashsohail said:
Devil thanks a lot man.

You gave me information exactly what I wanf. I live in bahria town islamabad.

Could you please tellme where exactly is that shop in lahore so I could ask someone to buy it for me and bring it to islamabad.


Plus one of the fellow on the forum told me not to ad medicine. It was some random medicine or ich which I bought I did not add it. The temp of the tank is set to 30C AND I have not added even a little bit of salt.

Will the table salt? Iodine salt work ? Or shall I just get raw salt without any additives?

Apart from that the tank temp is set to 30C FROM 3 days and parrots at te moment are very very shy and scared to death because of me :///

I am using a local antI chlorine medicine which the fish shop guy gave me for 200 :/ it does nt have any brand only says ANTI CHLORINE lol
Dude just like aquarist48, Eienna and JoannaB say use simple salt that is kosher salt in urdu people called it "sada namak" or "khula namak"; reason way not to use iodine is it has anti-caking agents which can out-rightly suffocate your fish (Remember Freshwater Aquarium salt is much better option). and please set the temp back to 28C reason is that because on here extreme high and extreme low temperature fluctuation and also power failure and top of aquarium is open just like hut "V Shape upside down" so local shop keeper say set temp to 30c so if power goes out for 1 hour or 2 hour temp will not drop less then 23 - 24 C plus on here most people use UGF with air pump and trust me we don't know what is the pressure of the air pump coz it "B" pair china stuff and all idiot shop keeper say set it to high not low because they think it better to set it high wall its gud for UGF but it also stress some fish that shop keeper don't bother to tell. Plus high temp water are low in oxygen. So my friend You should research more and more from internet this is better plus fishlore is great forum or if you had friend on KarachI (who is in this hobby) then you are monster those people know what's aquarium is coz all breeder farm are in KarachI and all products are available even fancy amazing secret product and remedies that nobody around the world have it (only Pakistan coz other area have there own Weather and Geography, water source and experts).

FishLand Aquarium is located in Samanabad - Lahore Tell no is 04237534545

One thing I forget to mention that our source water contain little bit of salt in it so only add 1 tsp per 25 Us Gallon or use copper base medicine they are good for curing ick just in 3 - 5 day (I use any medication only in my hospital tanks but since you don't have it so use it in your main tank).

Also patience is a virtue nothing happened in a flash and in this hobby u need a lot of patience. Hope this may help you.
 
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Hashsohail

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Einna, jonna and antI devil.

Thank you so much mates. Lovely people you are.
I bought sea salt and two spoon of salt I introduced to the tank,

The temp is now set to 28C and the white spots seems to be gone. I will do gravel vacuum tomorrow.

A question please all four parrots aretoo scared of me . They play when I am not infront of the tank but as soon as I come by they hide in a speed of 0-60 in 1 sec lol. Will they get friendly in time?

I dd 10% water change and installed a lovely new sponge filter which is filtering water 600l per hour and injecting enough oxygen bubbles too ))
 

Eienna

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Just sit quietly in front of it and don't jump when they come out...just move slowly for a while and they'll get used to you. A lot of BPs are very shy at first.
 

Aquarist

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Good morning,

Check out my post #5 in the link below concerning Bloody Parrots:



Ken
 

antidevil12

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Dats good news that ick is disappering. I never personally had BP so don't know much about them plus I never buy any hybrid species(its only my thinking; do what ever u like) fellow aquarist48 and Eienna recommendation.
 
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Hashsohail

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This is the forst time I am keeping any other fish rather than goldfish lol. So far its kind of messy. But its all gelling up. In a month I am thinking of getting a paid of oscar fish and a pair of silver dollar fish. I have never kept these fish before.
I saw today and examined each blood parrot today and ony one of the parrot has three parasite white spores on it and I'm sure they will be ff in a couple of days too.

AntI devil any advice of feeding any healthy food to fish and keeping ICH away from my tank?

I feed them uncooked grreen peas take of the shell and the pieces of it.
I feed them optimum cichlid pellet food, and once a week I dip their food in garlic juice and then feed them, someone told me garlic is very good for their immune.

Any advice of what other good fresh stuff I can feed my parrots )?
 

antidevil12

Member
Don't put Oscar unless u have big tank so simply don't put oscar. Secondly hikarI is best fish food found here (As I told u above I never had experience with Bp so aquarist48 can help u). For ick don't buy infected fish from store always quarantine ur fish for 14 - 21 days before introducing them to main tank. If u don't have quarantine give fish methylene blue bath first and never add store water in ur aquarium (still its a gamble). And find some good LFS (This will help u alot).
 

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