My Guppies Keep Getting sick, but with different things

I Have only had these guppies for a few months, I started out with four males and kept them in a small 20l tank, one of them died after three days, but he had no physical symptoms so I just put it down to old age or stress, the other three males were fine and still are fine. We kept the three males on their own for a while to allow the nitrogen cycle to occur (about a month) then we added 6 new female guppies, they were fine in the smaller tank, very happy and content, they then bred, which we weren't expecting, Most of them gave birth and the fry were unfourtunately eaten. We managed to rush out and buy a net to put the babies in (But it was too big) and a floating birthing chamber. I put the birthing chamber together wrong, one female swam in to the others and there were no survivors. We found two new fry in the tank so we put them into the safety part of the birthing chamber and after keeping a pregnant female in there for three days with no luck we took her out and gave the two fry free reign.

About a week later we found even more fry at the top of the tank, and put them all into the birthing chamber aswell, we had a total of 20 in the end. We figured that these fry would be too cramped in the smaller tank and the adults seemed to be aswell, as most of the decorations had to be moved to allow the birthing chamber to fit in. So we got a new tank from my uncle, cleaned it, bought a new filter and heater and set it up. We had it running for 3 days before we moved the adult fish. We cleaned out the smaller tank and then added the fry back in the tank, unfourtunately one didn't make it but the others seemed happy.

The fry have been fine in their tank but there's been problems in the new one, after waiting for the nitrogen cycle in the new tank to settle down again, we bought another male guppy, three red eye tetras and a blue tetra. they seemed fine for a while and then all the problems occured.

First I noticed one of the female guppies' scales had popped out, I researched this and came to the conclusion that it was dropsy, her gravid spot was very pale and she wasn't eating. So we put the birthing chamber in again and put her in it as quarantine. We started treating her with Waterlife Fin Rot and Ulcers for five days, and she seemed better, her gravid spot was darker and more visible, she was eating again, the only problem was her scales. We put the carbon back in the filter the sixth day, and planned on leaving it again for a few days to let any medicine be filtered out before adding Melafix (As suggested by an employee at out local fish shop) however I came home from the shops one day to just find her dead in the birthing chamber, as if she'd just given up. I was sad but we took her out and removed the box (cleaning it thouroughly)

During the time the blue tetra also passed, I noticed that he didn't seem able to swim, and was just bobbing vertically, I thought he was sick since I got him and we found him dead the next day, however the other tetras are fine.

Now two more female guppies have problems. One of them has lots of square marks out of her tail, which the man in the fish shop told us was most likely caused by the tetras, since there didn't seem to be any sign of rot, sh's swimming and eating fine. And today I noticed that a different female seems to have white stuff growing over her eyes and on her back. She has some tiny white spots on her left fin and her right fin is just sticking out, she doesn't seem like she can move it. We quarantined her in the birthing chamber and added melafix but I'm really worried? Why do my guppies keep dying?

Just done an ammonia test, NH3/NH4+ is at 0
I have no way of testing nitrites or nitrates currently, only the ammonia and pH testers
pH is at 7.8
We have been topping up both tanks with tap water that has been treated with Tetra Aqua Safe to replace the water lost by evaporation, however we haven't been able to do a water change in a few weeks, after this medication (7 weeks) we will do a 50% water change.












I am aware there is algae in my tank, I haven't got around to sorting it out because I've been focusing on treating my sick fish

Hope the photos help!

 

I meant 7 days not 7 weeks sorry

 

I Have only had these guppies for a few months, I started out with four males and kept them in a small 20l tank, one of them died after three days, but he had no physical symptoms so I just put it down to old age or stress, the other three males were fine and still are fine. We kept the three males on their own for a while to allow the nitrogen cycle to occur (about a month) then we added 6 new female guppies, they were fine in the smaller tank, very happy and content, they then bred, which we weren't expecting, Most of them gave birth and the fry were unfourtunately eaten. We managed to rush out and buy a net to put the babies in (But it was too big) and a floating birthing chamber. I put the birthing chamber together wrong, one female swam in to the others and there were no survivors. We found two new fry in the tank so we put them into the safety part of the birthing chamber and after keeping a pregnant female in there for three days with no luck we took her out and gave the two fry free reign.

About a week later we found even more fry at the top of the tank, and put them all into the birthing chamber aswell, we had a total of 20 in the end. We figured that these fry would be too cramped in the smaller tank and the adults seemed to be aswell, as most of the decorations had to be moved to allow the birthing chamber to fit in. So we got a new tank from my uncle, cleaned it, bought a new filter and heater and set it up. We had it running for 3 days before we moved the adult fish. We cleaned out the smaller tank and then added the fry back in the tank, unfourtunately one didn't make it but the others seemed happy.

The fry have been fine in their tank but there's been problems in the new one, after waiting for the nitrogen cycle in the new tank to settle down again, we bought another male guppy, three red eye tetras and a blue tetra. they seemed fine for a while and then all the problems occured.

First I noticed one of the female guppies' scales had popped out, I researched this and came to the conclusion that it was dropsy, her gravid spot was very pale and she wasn't eating. So we put the birthing chamber in again and put her in it as quarantine. We started treating her with Waterlife Fin Rot and Ulcers for five days, and she seemed better, her gravid spot was darker and more visible, she was eating again, the only problem was her scales. We put the carbon back in the filter the sixth day, and planned on leaving it again for a few days to let any medicine be filtered out before adding Melafix (As suggested by an employee at out local fish shop) however I came home from the shops one day to just find her dead in the birthing chamber, as if she'd just given up. I was sad but we took her out and removed the box (cleaning it thouroughly)

During the time the blue tetra also passed, I noticed that he didn't seem able to swim, and was just bobbing vertically, I thought he was sick since I got him and we found him dead the next day, however the other tetras are fine.

Now two more female guppies have problems. One of them has lots of square marks out of her tail, which the man in the fish shop told us was most likely caused by the tetras, since there didn't seem to be any sign of rot, sh's swimming and eating fine. And today I noticed that a different female seems to have white stuff growing over her eyes and on her back. She has some tiny white spots on her left fin and her right fin is just sticking out, she doesn't seem like she can move it. We quarantined her in the birthing chamber and added melafix but I'm really worried? Why do my guppies keep dying?

Just done an ammonia test, NH3/NH4+ is at 0
I have no way of testing nitrites or nitrates currently, only the ammonia and pH testers
pH is at 7.8
We have been topping up both tanks with tap water that has been treated with Tetra Aqua Safe to replace the water lost by evaporation, however we haven't been able to do a water change in a few weeks, after this medication (7 weeks) we will do a 50% water change.












I am aware there is algae in my tank, I haven't got around to sorting it out because I've been focusing on treating my sick fish

Hope the photos help!

So what it sounds like to me is bad water quality. It sounds like you didn't cycle your tank before putting fish in, if this it the case you need to get some bacteria for it. I use marine land aquarium bacteria, but there are other brands out there as well. If it's not cycled then this will probably be the cause for the cloudy eyes, the fish bobbing, and the deaths. It sounds like you may have ick, which can be caused by stress and stress can be caused by poor water quality. How long have these tanks been established? Are the fish breathing heavily? Are they lethargic? And the photos do help, thank you for sharing them. And with the fry, if you don't want to be overrun with them(like I am with platies) you can either leave them in the adult tank(if you want some though, keep some plants, live or fake, floating at the top), sell them once they are old enough, or separate the female and male guppies with a tank divider or new tank/different tank, although it wouldn't stop them from birthing fry for up to a year, it's a start, you can also rehome the females. I hope this helps, and I hope your fish feel better soon.

Edit
I reread and saw that you said you cycled your tank. What are using the medication for? Is it still melafix? What size tank are they currently in? And how many fish total do you have in it?

 

So what it sounds like to me is bad water quality. It sounds like you didn't cycle your tank before putting fish in, if this it the case you need to get some bacteria for it. I use marine land aquarium bacteria, but there are other brands out there as well. If it's not cycled then this will probably be the cause for the cloudy eyes, the fish bobbing, and the deaths. It sounds like you may have ick, which can be caused by stress and stress can be caused by poor water quality. How long have these tanks been established? Are the fish breathing heavily? Are they lethargic? And the photos do help, thank you for sharing them. And with the fry, if you don't want to be overrun with them(like I am with platies) you can either leave them in the adult tank(if you want some though, keep some plants, live or fake, floating at the top), sell them once they are old enough, or separate the female and male guppies with a tank divider or new tank/different tank, although it wouldn't stop them from birthing fry for up to a year, it's a start, you can also rehome the females. I hope this helps, and I hope your fish feel better soon.

Edit
I reread and saw that you said you cycled your tank. What are using the medication for? Is it still melafix? What size tank are they currently in? And how many fish total do you have in it?

Thank you, we are using the melafix because it works as a general thing so we hoped it would help against whatver she has aswell has boosting the immune system of the others, I will try and do a partial water change today to improve the water quality.

I think the tank is about 40l, and there are 8 guppies and three red eye neons in there, all the plants are artificial since the old tank had real plants and they cane with a snail infestation. We've had this tank running for about a month I think

Their gills are pumping as usual and they look like they are breathing fine, they like to hide behins the filter because there's a bit of a current, even though we got a filter with a weaker flow but they are still swimming around and eating normally



UPDATE: We did a 25% water change and took out all the decorations, we cleaned the decorations with an algae brush and hot water then put them back into the tank, after the water changr and clean we added todays dose of melafix, her eye looks a bit better

 

UPDATE: We did a 25% water change and took out all the decorations, we cleaned the decorations with an algae brush and hot water then put them back into the tank, after the water changr and clean we added todays dose of melafix, her eye looks a bit better

Ok, so what in thinking now that I reread and saw that you did cycle, is the fish that was sick from the start. I think that fish probably introduced a disease. I'm assuming you don't quarantine your fish, which can introduce a lot of diseases to your main tank. And how I know this, well, first hand experience. I haven't bought any fish in a long time, but when I buy fish again I'm going to use a QT tank. Now you could probably use your 20l for this if you aren't using it for anything else. All that's needed is a heater. I personally have a spare filter, a heater, and a plastic plant. You'll want to do daily water changes, especially if you don't have a heater. You just need to keep the new fish in there for about a week(I know it's hard, you want to get them in your main tank right away) and make sure no signs of illness before you put them in the main tank. Another thing that can help with not getting infected fish is never buying when there are clear signs of illness or a dead fish in the tank, but if you really want it then you can QT them. So basically having a spare tank and heater can save a lot of trouble, but if you don't have one then always be vigilant. It sounds like the melafix might be helping your girl. With her eye the only thing I can think of that's not a disease, is stress, but since the water looks pretty good, maybe she's stressed by the fish? Does she usually get bullied or harassed a lot? Does yhe spots she have are they like salt like white spots on her or fuzzy but small white spots? Does her eye stick out at all, if so she could be suffering from pop eye. Melafix should help with that if its the case. Hope they get feeling better!

 

Ok, so what in thinking now that I reread and saw that you did cycle, is the fish that was sick from the start. I think that fish probably introduced a disease. I'm assuming you don't quarantine your fish, which can introduce a lot of diseases to your main tank. And how I know this, well, first hand experience. I haven't bought any fish in a long time, but when I buy fish again I'm going to use a QT tank. Now you could probably use your 20l for this if you aren't using it for anything else. All that's needed is a heater. I personally have a spare filter, a heater, and a plastic plant. You'll want to do daily water changes, especially if you don't have a heater. You just need to keep the new fish in there for about a week(I know it's hard, you want to get them in your main tank right away) and make sure no signs of illness before you put them in the main tank. Another thing that can help with not getting infected fish is never buying when there are clear signs of illness or a dead fish in the tank, but if you really want it then you can QT them. So basically having a spare tank and heater can save a lot of trouble, but if you don't have one then always be vigilant. It sounds like the melafix might be helping your girl. With her eye the only thing I can think of that's not a disease, is stress, but since the water looks pretty good, maybe she's stressed by the fish? Does she usually get bullied or harassed a lot? Does yhe spots she have are they like salt like white spots on her or fuzzy but small white spots? Does her eye stick out at all, if so she could be suffering from pop eye. Melafix should help with that if its the case. Hope they get feeling better!

I have had this female the same length of time as all the other female, same store same tank, only two have been ill but ive had them for 2 months now, the newest additions are the tetras (one I thought was ill from the beginning and later passed away) and a new male guppie who seems perfectly fine, only two fish have been bullie in my tnnk, one male by another when the females were first introduced, his tail was torn a bit but he stood his ground and now hes fine and the other female I mentioned that had the bites out the tail from the tetras, unfortunately my 20l is being used to hold all the fry until I can sell them, so I can't do a quarantine, I wasn't actually at the pet shop to buy my fish (besides the original males) but I know my mum always checks them out, hopefully since the tetra has died and its all clean that the other fish won't get it.

The white is like fuzzy slightly and the eye placement is normal. At the moment she looks like shes trying to eat, shes at the surface of her quarantine pot and seems to be like swallowing the water and food and spitting it back out again (sometimes with bubbles)

Thank you for your help

Sorry I reread haha, I think it may have been the tetra, my mum bought him cos she felt sorry for him on his own in the tank, but I thought he looked ill when he was still in the bag :/ he seemed better afterwards and then he died around the same time thr dropsy fish was ill, will the melafix kill off whatever disease it was then? Since he been dead for about 4 days

 

I have had this female the same length of time as all the other female, same store same tank, only two have been ill but ive had them for 2 months now, the newest additions are the tetras (one I thought was ill from the beginning and later passed away) and a new male guppie who seems perfectly fine, only two fish have been bullie in my tnnk, one male by another when the females were first introduced, his tail was torn a bit but he stood his ground and now hes fine and the other female I mentioned that had the bites out the tail from the tetras, unfortunately my 20l is being used to hold all the fry until I can sell them, so I can't do a quarantine, I wasn't actually at the pet shop to buy my fish (besides the original males) but I know my mum always checks them out, hopefully since the tetra has died and its all clean that the other fish won't get it.

The white is like fuzzy slightly and the eye placement is normal. At the moment she looks like shes trying to eat, shes at the surface of her quarantine pot and seems to be like swallowing the water and food and spitting it back out again (sometimes with bubbles)

Thank you for your help

Sorry I reread haha, I think it may have been the tetra, my mum bought him cos she felt sorry for him on his own in the tank, but I thought he looked ill when he was still in the bag :/ he seemed better afterwards and then he died around the same time thr dropsy fish was ill, will the melafix kill off whatever disease it was then? Since he been dead for about 4 days

Can you describe why you thought the tetra was ill? I suggest you keep using the melafix until your done with the medication round and if the issues don't go away, you might need to use some ich medicine specifically for ich. When was the last batch of fry you think was from your guppy that's trying to gulping? She could be in labor and breathing heavily at the top of the tank. If she seems stressed in the breeds and is trying to swim out of it through the bottom, you can put some of your substrate in the breeder, not enough for it sink, just enough for her to realize she can't get out. You can use your net and pick some up and carefully put it into the breeder, but if she seems fine don't worry about putting substrate into it. Is she eating while in there? Ok, so about the others, is there anything unusual about them? Any exhibiting the same symptoms or acting strange? Hope this helps

 

Can you describe why you thought the tetra was ill? I suggest you keep using the melafix until your done with the medication round and if the issues don't go away, you might need to use some ich medicine specifically for ich. When was the last batch of fry you think was from your guppy that's trying to gulping? She could be in labor and breathing heavily at the top of the tank. If she seems stressed in the breeds and is trying to swim out of it through the bottom, you can put some of your substrate in the breeder, not enough for it sink, just enough for her to realize she can't get out. You can use your net and pick some up and carefully put it into the breeder, but if she seems fine don't worry about putting substrate into it. Is she eating while in there? Ok, so about the others, is there anything unusual about them? Any exhibiting the same symptoms or acting strange? Hope this helps

The tetra just kinda seemed kinda lethargic in the bag and he hid the first day in the tank, but the day after he was fine so I thought it was just the transport. And she not eating, she seems to be like coughing the food away? The others are eating normally and not breathing heavily at all. Shes just floating at the top of the quarantine box and breathing heavily, her gravid spot is quite dark, but she looks really slI'm compared to the other pregnant guppies. And I don't know which fry were hers but our oldest fry are coming up to five weeks and the youngest are nearly 2/3 weeks

 

The tetra just kinda seemed kinda lethargic in the bag and he hid the first day in the tank, but the day after he was fine so I thought it was just the transport. And she not eating, she seems to be like coughing the food away? The others are eating normally and not breathing heavily at all. Shes just floating at the top of the quarantine box and breathing heavily, her gravid spot is quite dark, but she looks really slI'm compared to the other pregnant guppies. And I don't know which fry were hers but our oldest fry are coming up to five weeks and the youngest are nearly 2/3 weeks

Ok your guppy sounds like she's in labor, give the #6 post a read and see if it sounds like she's in labor to you.
If she's slim, this might be one of her first fry batches. If she's spitting food out it could be because she's in labor and doesn't want to eat, or she could not like the size of the food, and she might not like the food, but if she's been eating it, then I'd probably say she's in labor. But keep an eye on her. Guppies have fry every 3-4weeks usually. If she is in labor I suggest turning off the lights and keeping an eye on her. You could put a small floating plant(fake or live). If you end up with fry, do not put them in with the others, they will need to be treated as well and you don't want to the others getting this. I think the tetra did introduce this into the tank, considering he was lethargic and bobbing. Hope this helps!

 

Ok your guppy sounds like she's in labor, give the #6 post a read and see if it sounds like she's in labor to you.
If she's slim, this might be one of her first fry batches. If she's spitting food out it could be because she's in labor and doesn't want to eat, or she could not like the size of the food, and she might not like the food, but if she's been eating it, then I'd probably say she's in labor. But keep an eye on her. Guppies have fry every 3-4weeks usually. If she is in labor I suggest turning off the lights and keeping an eye on her. You could put a small floating plant(fake or live). If you end up with fry, do not put them in with the others, they will need to be treated as well and you don't want to the others getting this. I think the tetra did introduce this into the tank, considering he was lethargic and bobbing. Hope this helps!

If she does have fry I think ill just leave them, its sad but I already have loads and if they are gonna be ill I'd rather have them die quickly

 

If she does have fry I think ill just leave them, its sad but I already have loads and if they are gonna be ill I'd rather have them die quickly

Ok, just keep an eye out then. If you see any fry than that's a good thing, that will mean that it probably was labor or if she calms down and seems smaller and her gravid spot is lighter/gone. I hope everyone gets feeling better

 

when they do give birth the day you can clearly see, the belly is SO HUGE and boxy, like if its belly is a bit bigger, it will explode, and you can see the vent is openned, and it may/or not eat food, and the gill is flapping real quick, the best thing to give them is some cover =, plants and decor.

 

Ok, just keep an eye out then. If you see any fry than that's a good thing, that will mean that it probably was labor or if she calms down and seems smaller and her gravid spot is lighter/gone. I hope everyone gets feeling better

Thank you for all your help, I hope that if it is labour she will feel a bit better and be able to fight the white stuff

when they do give birth the day you can clearly see, the belly is SO HUGE and boxy, like if its belly is a bit bigger, it will explode, and you can see the vent is openned, and it may/or not eat food, and the gill is flapping real quick, the best thing to give them is some cover =, plants and decor.

My guppy saber is a big girl, and when she's pregnant she is massive and square, even if she isn't in labour, but some of mine don't box up at all, so I don't really know with mine haha, thank you for the tips though

 

My guppy saber is a big girl, and when she's pregnant she is massive and square, even if she isn't in labour, but some of mine don't box up at all, so I don't really know with mine haha, thank you for the tips though

yes, that is suppose to happen in the LAST stage of guppy pregancy, for labor, it will get EVEN BIGGER. if you get my idea.

 

yes, that is suppose to happen in the LAST stage of guppy pregancy, for labor, it will get EVEN BIGGER. if you get my idea.

Yeah I get it, saber is the only fish the shows it out of my guppies though, last month when the females all gave birth saber was the only one that looked heavily pregnant, saber is also a fry eater so she's not the best mum in the world haha

 

lol, like all guppies will do, is just that when you found out earlier, the mum can't eat the babies because when they give birth produce a "chemical???"" I forgot what it is but, they can't eat for several hours yeah.

 

UPDATE: I am about to put in todays melafix dose, she is swimming around a bit more, her fin is still very stiff but one of her eyes seems less covered, there weren't any fry in the box and her gravid spot hasn't gotten any lighter



UPDATE #2: My biggest female saber has two tiny white spots on her, one on her tail and on on her back, she doesn't seem to mind and is eating and swimming like usual, they look like tiny grains of sand? Should I put her in with the other sick one or just leave her?

 

UPDATE: I am about to put in todays melafix dose, she is swimming around a bit more, her fin is still very stiff but one of her eyes seems less covered, there weren't any fry in the box and her gravid spot hasn't gotten any lighter

UPDATE #2: My biggest female saber has two tiny white spots on her, one on her tail and on on her back, she doesn't seem to mind and is eating and swimming like usual, they look like tiny grains of sand? Should I put her in with the other sick one or just leave her?

Ok you have ick, Melafix wouldn't help it considering it's a parasite. So you've got two options here, continue with melafix or stop it and treat ick. If you have only a day or two left you might be alright continuing with melafix. But in my opinion, I wouldn't put today's does in and get ick medicine and put it in. If you've already done the dose, then I'd wait for tomorrow and put the ick dose in. Since her eye didn't seem to be contagious, I'd definitely put ick as the priority. Ick can become hard to cure if it goes on for to long. What's the temp of the tank?

 

Ok you have ick, Melafix wouldn't help it considering it's a parasite. So you've got two options here, continue with melafix or stop it and treat ick. If you have only a day or two left you might be alright continuing with melafix. But in my opinion, I wouldn't put today's does in and get ick medicine and put it in. If you've already done the dose, then I'd wait for tomorrow and put the ick dose in. Since her eye didn't seem to be contagious, I'd definitely put ick as the priority. Ick can become hard to cure if it goes on for to long. What's the temp of the tank?

Ive already put the melafix in, so should I put saber in the quarantine box with the originally ill one? Also I don't have a thermometer, I rely on the heater to self regulate but the heater is set to 28 degress celsius

 

Ive already put the melafix in, so should I put saber in the quarantine box with the originally ill one? Also I don't have a thermometer, I rely on the heater to self regulate but the heater is set to 28 degress celsius

Sorry, I forgot to respond to that question. You can, but I wouldn't, because it's already spread even though your one guppy was in the quarantine box. It might stress out Saber and the other one to, which is not good with ick. It sounds like your temperature is good, so once you put the ick medication in it should clear up pretty fast, then you can focus more on the eye problem. If you decide to put the ick medication in, I'd wait until the next time your suppose to do a melafix dose and do water change then out ick medication in. Hope this helps!

 

Sorry, I forgot to respond to that question. You can, but I wouldn't, because it's already spread even though your one guppy was in the quarantine box. It might stress out Saber and the other one to, which is not good with ick. It sounds like your temperature is good, so once you put the ick medication in it should clear up pretty fast, then you can focus more on the eye problem. If you decide to put the ick medication in, I'd wait until the next time your suppose to do a melafix dose and do water change then out ick medication in. Hope this helps!

I might not be able to get ick medication because of the cost of it but I'll try, I did try and catch her earlier but she is a very fast guppie so I ended up leaving her, so that probably made it worse the melafix is helping the guppy with the eye which makes me think that the ick is yet another disease that has decided to join my tank :/

 

I might not be able to get ick medication because of the cost of it but I'll try, I did try and catch her earlier but she is a very fast guppie so I ended up leaving her, so that probably made it worse the melafix is helping the guppy with the eye which makes me think that the ick is yet another disease that has decided to join my tank :/

Stressing her out by trying to get her probably didn't make much of a difference. What I meant is a long period of stress, a lot of times having them breeders can stress them out, but thy usually get over it fairly quickly. I was just afraid having two in that small of a space would stress them out. And here's a link, you don't have to use ick medication, but you can use a salt bath, there are other remedies as well on there. Although I wouldn't do the heat increase, the heat is probably at the max already. Hope this helps!

 

Stressing her out by trying to get her probably didn't make much of a difference. What I meant is a long period of stress, a lot of times having them breeders can stress them out, but thy usually get over it fairly quickly. I was just afraid having two in that small of a space would stress them out. And here's a link, you don't have to use ick medication, but you can use a salt bath, there are other remedies as well on there. Although I wouldn't do the heat increase, the heat is probably at the max already. Hope this helps!

I don't have any aquarium salt either, would normal salt work? If I raise the temperature to 30 would that help or would it just make the fish worse?

 

I don't have any aquarium salt either, would normal salt work? If I raise the temperature to 30 would that help or would it just make the fish worse?

Looks like it should work,

And you can up if you want. It says 86 F is deadly to ick, so it might be worth upping it, but watch your fish and make sure it's not to hot for them. Although guppies are meant to be in 75-82 F, so it would probably be ok. Hope this helps!

 

Looks like it should work,

And you can up if you want. It says 86 F is deadly to ick, so it might be worth upping it, but watch your fish and make sure it's not to hot for them. Although guppies are meant to be in 75-82 F, so it would probably be ok. Hope this helps!

I'll see if I Can get medicine first, as it would be my first salt bath and I really don't wanna mess it up :$

 

UPDATE: The fish with the eye is looking much better, she's swimming around a little bit more and her eye is looking less cloudy, her fin is moving a bit more but is still quite stiff, Saber has a white spot on her tail but they others have gone, I bought ich medicine today, so I will do a water change today and put it in, no melafix was added today

 

UPDATE: The fish with the eye is looking much better, she's swimming around a little bit more and her eye is looking less cloudy, her fin is moving a bit more but is still quite stiff, Saber has a white spot on her tail but they others have gone, I bought ich medicine today, so I will do a water change today and put it in, no melafix was added today

Good! I hope the best for your fish!

 

URGENT UPDATE: This morning I noticed one of my fish was missing, I found her stuck in the centre of the stalks for one of my artificial plants, I shook her out of the plant so I could catch her and throw her away but she started swimming, however she swam directly into the gravel like she was trying to dig down. I put her in the quarantine tank with the other one, the other one just tried to attack her. Shes just laying on the floor on her side, she can't swim straight, she's still breathing. Her tail looks a bit jagged and the bottom and her stomach looks a bit misshapen

 

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UPDATE: I've placed her in a bowl full of tank water, because I was worried about the other one getting sick again or attacking her

 

UPDATE: Did a 25% water change and added the correct dose of ich medicine to the main tank

 

URGENT UPDATE: This morning I noticed one of my fish was missing, I found her stuck in the centre of the stalks for one of my artificial plants, I shook her out of the plant so I could catch her and throw her away but she started swimming, however she swam directly into the gravel like she was trying to dig down. I put her in the quarantine tank with the other one, the other one just tried to attack her. Shes just laying on the floor on her side, she can't swim straight, she's still breathing. Her tail looks a bit jagged and the bottom and her stomach looks a bit misshapen

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UPDATE: I've placed her in a bowl full of tank water, because I was worried about the other one getting sick again or attacking her

UPDATE: Did a 25% water change and added the correct dose of ich medicine to the main tank

Sorry to hear you had to euthanise your fish. Just make sure the others don't show any symptoms that she did, if they do it might be something else in the tank. Let's hope not though! How are the others doing? Any improvements?

 

Sorry to hear you had to euthanise your fish. Just make sure the others don't show any symptoms that she did, if they do it might be something else in the tank. Let's hope not though! How are the others doing? Any improvements?

Yeah, it was kinda sad I will keep an eye on them, the one in the qt box is looking better, her eye is still kinda cloudy but I decided to treat the ich first since it seems to be affecting more than just saber (orihime had some white spots aswell, shes the one I euthanised) and once the ich treatment is finished I will leave it a couple days, do a water change again and return to the melafix since it seemed to be helping

 

UPDATE: third day of the ich medicine went in this morning, now I have to leave it for two days before adding the final dose, saber has been hiding by the filter a lot but she still has a good appetite so I think its due to the males, with two females dead there's 4 females to 4 males and saber has always been a popular one, she still has a white spot on her tail but I can't see any more, the fish in the qt box seems better, the eye cloud is practically gone, she is eating a bit more and she has a bit more movement in her fin, however it's still a bit slower, I think if shes still good in a couple days I'll put her back in the main tank as shes been in qt for over a week now, no more fish have died, the males and tetras seem fine, so hopefully the worst of it has passed

 

UPDATE: third day of the ich medicine went in this morning, now I have to leave it for two days before adding the final dose, saber has been hiding by the filter a lot but she still has a good appetite so I think its due to the males, with two females dead there's 4 females to 4 males and saber has always been a popular one, she still has a white spot on her tail but I can't see any more, the fish in the qt box seems better, the eye cloud is practically gone, she is eating a bit more and she has a bit more movement in her fin, however it's still a bit slower, I think if shes still good in a couple days I'll put her back in the main tank as shes been in qt for over a week now, no more fish have died, the males and tetras seem fine, so hopefully the worst of it has passed

Glad to hear that things are going better.

 

UPDATE: main tank fish are looking good, I noticed the spine of one of my fry seems bent, I think its a birth defect as its quite small, will it be ok when it grows up or would it be better to get rid of him? he is swimming around happily and doesn't seem to be ill or worried about it

 

UPDATE: main tank fish are looking good, I noticed the spine of one of my fry seems bent, I think its a birth defect as its quite small, will it be ok when it grows up or would it be better to get rid of him? he is swimming around happily and doesn't seem to be ill or worried about it

Glad they are feeling better! I personally would keep the fry. It might not be fixed when he's a adult, but I have had some fish with severely bent spines, like your fry, that have almost completely healed after awhile. He may die or he may not, but if he seems happy enough.

 

Glad they are feeling better! I personally would keep the fry. It might not be fixed when he's a adult, but I have had some fish with severely bent spines, like your fry, that have almost completely healed after awhile. He may die or he may not, but if he seems happy enough.

Ah thank you so much for all your help, I was panicking so much when they all started to get ill and you really helped me, and I'm glad that he will be ok, I keep reading about people culling the weak ones but I don't have the heart to do it, so I'm glad that by not killing him I'm not being cruel and forcing him to live an uncomfortable life. I'm not gonna let my guppies breed anymore after this, I'm probably gonna either separate the males and females or give the females away and just keep the males and the tetras since they seem sturdier than the females. Thank you again!

 

Ah thank you so much for all your help, I was panicking so much when they all started to get ill and you really helped me, and I'm glad that he will be ok, I keep reading about people culling the weak ones but I don't have the heart to do it, so I'm glad that by not killing him I'm not being cruel and forcing him to live an uncomfortable life. I'm not gonna let my guppies breed anymore after this, I'm probably gonna either separate the males and females or give the females away and just keep the males and the tetras since they seem sturdier than the females. Thank you again!

Your welcome, and I'm happy to help!
If you don't want any more fry than I would give your females away since they can keep giving birth up to a year without having a male.

 

Your welcome, and I'm happy to help!
If you don't want any more fry than I would give your females away since they can keep giving birth up to a year without having a male.

Thank you, I've finally decided on a plan, today I put the carbon back in my filter and did a 50% water change, scrubbed the algae off rearranged some things and noticed how empty this 40l tank looks with 8 guppies and 3 tetras, so I'm gonna put my two bigger fry in (both females) to replace the two that I lost, and when the others are big enough I'll put the males in and enough females to keep them all happy then give any remaining ones away, if the females do have more fry then I'll just l3t nature take its course and rely on natural selection, I might add some more neons (healthy ones this time haha)