My Goldfish Has ICH

nadine

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HI I have the same problem.....my black goldfish has ick. I have turned up the temp in the tank....Am I supose to add salt too??
 

Aquarist

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Hello Nadine and Welcome to Fish Lore.

I've moved your post to create a thread of it's own. It will help you to get more responses and a proper welcome to the forum.

Hold on for more responses.
Ken
 
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nadine

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Thank u Ken....I have also noticed that my algae fish has a few spots aswell. I don't want to loose all my fish to this.....Please Help
 

Aquarist

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Glad to help.

Some people use salt and some do not when treating for ICH. It's not something that I usually recommend. Normally the increased temperatures to 86 degrees for a full two weeks, 2 gravel vacuums each week to remove the spores that fall off the fish and into the substrate. Ich may appear worse before it gets better. The only time I would recommend medications is in severe cases. Then I'm sure some other Goldie keepers can advise on the best current medicines to use.

Increased water temperatures requires more oxygen, so it would be a good idea to add an air stone/supply line if you aren't currently using one.
Best wishes!
Ken
 

Meenu

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Welcome to Fishlore, nadine. Good luck with the ich. I'm sorry you are going through it.

Could you please fill out your aquarium information? it always helps members answer questions if we know basics about your tank such as size, stock, water parameters, etc.
 

Jrobber

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Just another tip, be patient with ICK. It will work it's course if the water temperature is raised and gravel vacuums are done. Slowly it will go away, but like they said above it may get worse before it gets better.
 

gremlin

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If you do decide to go the medication route, I have had lots of success using Ich Attack. I like it because you don't have to worry about the higher temps being hard on goldfish.
 
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nadine

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Thanks for the help....
I think I will go with the medication....my black moore is just about dead I loved that fish soooo much, and I have had it for a long time .... Breaks my heart.

I notice that my algae has a few white spots now....I don't want the rest of my fish to get the ich....what should I do once my black moore dies...is it ok to clean the tank, new water then add the medication? or would this be too much stress on the other fish?
 

Jrobber

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Meds tend to stress fish, but if your case is severe as mine was, meds may be your only choice. If you do use them, make sure you remove any carbon or carbon filters from your tank. The carbon will clean out the meds and they will do no good. Good luck, and I hope your fish start feeling better. I know what you're going through.
 
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nadine

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My black moore and my red eyed tetra both died over night....Hopefully I can save my guppy and algae eater....Should I clean the tank now b4 starting meds?
 

gremlin

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Yes. It would be a good idea to do daily gravel vacs to get rid of the ich spores and to help keep the water as clean as possible. Make sure you read the instructions on whatever medication you use. Also, take out any carbon in your filter as the carbon will remove the medication.
 
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nadine

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I am left with just my algae eater....I have lost 3 fish due to this tarrable ich....I have started meds and I do gravel vacs once a day.... and it seems as if my algae eater is slowley getting better....how long should I continue with the meds? and how long after should I add new fish?
 

gremlin

Member
Follow the instructions on the ich medication you are using. They usually have you continue the medication longer than ich is visible. As for adding other fish, I would wait and make sure that your tank is fully cycled after the round of medication before adding any other fish. What type of algae eater do you have?
 

ldbrown3138

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Raising the temp helps to accelerate the life cycle of ich allowing medication to work on the spores in the tank. A salt water dip will help displace the spores on the fish by increasing the osmotic pressure. The best medicine is basic aquarium maintenance and husbandry practices. Keep your tanks clean and perform regular water changes. Quarantine all new fish for 7 - 10 days prior to putting them into your tank with other fishies.
 
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nadine

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Hi....thanks for the information...I have Bristlenose pleco left, hes looking pritty bad right now, but I think he might make it. I have been doing a gravel vac everyday now aswell as adding meds....I have noticed that my water isn't so cloudy as it was. Is this a good sign?

He still has a few salt like garins in his skin, how do I get ride of these grains?....or will the meds kill them and will they drop off of my Bristlenose pleco? Any info would be helpful

What is a Salt Water Dip? And how do I go about doing this? Right now I'm willing to try just about anything to save this fish.
 

gremlin

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Since you have a pleco, I would not worry about the salt water dip. I'm not sure the pleco could handle it. The medication should kill the rest of the ich and the salt like grains should drop off and go away.
 
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nadine

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Thank u so much gremlin....I'm not not fimilar with ick....how long should this process take?
 

ldbrown3138

Member
I would not dip a pleco either. Keep up regular water changes and watch your biological filter as some medicines will kill the good bacteria as well as the bad.
 

gremlin

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It can take up to a month (and sometimes longer). Just be patient and follow the instructions on whichever medication you are using. Keep up with the gravel vacs and water changes. You will most likely need to allow your tank to cycle when you are all done. Keep us posted on how your little pleco is doing. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that (s)he will pull through this.
 
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nadine

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I think the ick is clearing, I don't see anymore white spots....but I'm Pelco don't look well at all...his Tantecials that come from its head r falling off or just decaying(Turning white).....any ideals what could be wrong?
 

ldbrown3138

Member
Sounds like a secondary bacterial infection. What medicine are you using? What is water temp? Are you doing small daily water changes?
 

ppate1977

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Like 2 weeks or so, then you will need to cycle the tank again since the meds usually kill off the beneficial bacteria. Ich is common, and if you ever spot it again take immediate action with temp increae and water changes with gravel vacs. Good luck
 
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nadine

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Thanks ldbrown..... I am using Ick Guard. Temp is 83, yes I have been doing a vac with about 25-30% water change every day since I started the meds. What can I do to fix this problem? Is this deadly to my Pleco?
 

ldbrown3138

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I would now stop the Ick Guard and treat with Maracyn or Maracyn II. Lower temp back to 80 and keep doing daily water changes. I would only change 10 - 20% daily water change. What type filter do you use?
 
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nadine

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I have a Fungus Eliminator here, its good for serious fungus and Bacteria. Would this help? and how long should I treat with this? Also I notice that my water is still cloudy....what could be causing this?...would it be safe to do a full water change right now?...
 

ldbrown3138

Member
Follow the directions, figure 10 days for treatment. Cloudy water is due to your biological filter being upset by the medications. You should be using some Amquel to help keep the ammonia in check. I wouldn't recommend a full water change, that will be too hard on Mr. Pleco.

What type filter do you have?
 
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nadine

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Thanks so much for your help u have been great...... I have a Aqua Tech filter.....So your telling me to stop Ick Guard and Start Fungus Eliminator...Right ? how many vacs should I do a week? with how much water change?

The ick only droped off of my Pleco 1-2 days ago....is it safe to stop the ick guard yet?
 

ldbrown3138

Member
Make sure you take any carbon out of your filter. it will absorb the meds before they do your fish any good. You need a plain filter insert. Stop the Ick Guard now, switch to the other med. Vac the gravel well and change 10% of your water everyday for 10 days. Keep the fungus meds going for 10 days. Temp at 80. Make sure you are getting good water movement throughout tank.

Finally, I would add 1 tsp of plain salt per gallon of water. This will help fight the ick and help the fish with regenerating it's slime coat.
 
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nadine

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Ok I will do.....And adding the salt won't hurt my Pleco?
 

ldbrown3138

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1 tsp per gallon won't hurt. You can't even taste that small amount. If you are concerned, add 1/2 that amount.
 
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nadine

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Ok I will try it... ty for all your help, I will keep u updated
 
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nadine

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Ok so I done a gravel vac and 15% water change, and added meds....my water is VERY cloudy and dirty looking....will this settle after awhile? Or once I replaces my filter?
 
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nadine

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WOW I'm seeing a very big change in my Pleco...Hes doing a lot better then yesterday...Hes up and on the go eating again and his tanteculs r lookg much better aswell.....Thanks so much for all your help!! This site is great
 

ldbrown3138

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Fantastic! I'm glad everything worked out well for Mr/Ms. Pleco. Now, continue with meds for a few days more to make sure everything is OK. Oncee you are finished with meds, make sure you put a carbon filter back in the water, it will remove residual medicine, keep up with weekly 15 - 20% water changes and regular filter maintenance.

When you are ready for more fish, add them slowly, 1 or 2 per week. I always keep my fish in a separate tank for a week or more before adding them to the community. Good luck.
 
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nadine

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Update My pleco seems to be doing really well, I have replaced my filter, but my water is still very cloudy....Any ideals how I can fix this problem?
 

ldbrown3138

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Keep up with water changes, your filter will have to cycle again. When you discontinue the medicines you will see the water begin to clear. It will take a few days, be patient.
 
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nadine

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I recently added a new filter...seems as if there was something wrong with my old filter....WOW!! what a change, my water is really clear, Mr Pleco is doin great. I have added 2 new fish to my tank and they r doin great aswell...I have added a few pics to my profile...take a look!! Thanks for all your help.
Another question... I have a 20 Gallon tank...how many fish should I put in there? So its not over crowded...Right now I only have 1 Pleco, 1 Black Moore and 1 Comet....
 

ldbrown3138

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# of fish varies with size of fish, type of fish, etc That is a difficult question to answer w/o more info. What fish are you interested in keeping?

Be careful adding fish, take it slow, fishkeeping is not a race, let your aquarium cycle and re-establish a bio filter. Limit yourself to 2 fish per week till it is fully stocked.
 
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nadine

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I'm not sure if anyone can help me, but here goes....I have been getting a bad smell from my tank, its like a earthy or moldy smell...I think it might be coming from my filter, would u know what could be causing this?
 

ldbrown3138

Member
Are you cleaning the filter regularly? You should rinse the filter media in the old water when you do a filter change. Is the odor strong, do you notice it when you are in the room or only when you are working in and around the tank?
 
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nadine

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The filter that's in there now, I only put in there when I added the new fish (about 3 weeks ago) and I do take it out and rinse it with clean water (atlease once a wek or so)
The order is very strong, but only when I opens the lid (cover)...I nticed this morning that my new black moore, has one speck or fungus (I think) on his tail....It looks like a little peice of cotton. Could this be what's making the water or filter smell...? I am planning on starting a fungus med today to help save my black moore....I don't want to loose these fish too...
 
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nadine

Member
Ok so I just done a 50% water change, and replaced my filter......and I'm getting ready to add alittle meds.....Do u have any more advice u can give me....
 

ldbrown3138

Member
Make sure the water you use for rinsing the filter is non-chlorinated water and don't rinse to vigorously. Rinse off the dirt and put it back in the filter. Keep doing weekly (10 - 15 %) water changes. Don't add too many fish at one time. Slow is better. Don't overfeed. Better to feed a little 2 or 3 times a day than a big feeding once per day.
 
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nadine

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Ok so I done a 50% water change....the white spot has dropped off of mr black moore (I didnt use meds)....and he seems to be doing well....I will keep up with the weekly water changes, and see what happens...right now I only have 3 gold fish and mr pleco....not planning on adding any more for maby a month or so....
 

ldbrown3138

Member
The single most important thing you can do for your fish (other than feeding) is a water change.
Goldfish are large bodied fish and consume a good amount of food. Water changes are critical for aquarium maintenance. Water changes are a lot easier and cheaper than meds.
 
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nadine

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Ok ty so much for all your help, I will keep up with weekly water changes.....TY
 

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