My goldfish breed but never spawn

My goldfish will attempt to mate but they never spawn either that or I don't get to the eggs on time and they get eaten. The water condition and everything is okay too so I was wondering why they don't spawn?

The biggest goldfish is a male and he is the one who does most of the chasing and he is 8 1/2 inches and the two other are a female and male and they are both around 4 1/2 or more inches.

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Most of the time they eat the eggs, if you know they are definitely pregnant.

 

Maybe you're wrong about the big one being a male?

 

Good morning,

I've read in the past to put a 100% cotton, new, mop head for them to lay their eggs on. Once the eggs have been laid and fertilized it's best to remove the mop head into another cycled tank. More of a chance for survival.

Ken

 

Maybe you're wrong about the big one being a male?

He definetly is a male he has the breeding stars and the smaller goldfish that I thought didn't chase the female actually did chase her and he has breeding stars too

Good morning,

I've read in the past to put a 100% cotton, new, mop head for them to lay their eggs on. Once the eggs have been laid and fertilized it's best to remove the mop head into another cycled tank. More of a chance for survival.

Ken

Would plastic plants work? I put some plastic floating plants in the tank incase she layed her eggs

 

Your female may not be fully mature, or she is getting worn out by being chased by two males. Goldfish love to lay eggs in and on moss or fine leaved plants. Watch them carefully and when the eggs are laid, remove them to keep them from getting eaten.

 

Your female may not be fully mature, or she is getting worn out by being chased by two males. Goldfish love to lay eggs in and on moss or fine leaved plants. Watch them carefully and when the eggs are laid, remove them to keep them from getting eaten.

She looks like she is sweelling up a little but the smaller male doesn't chase her as much so it is the bigger male fish that does. I do a 20% water change because I read that it will help but is there anymore suggestions?

 

He definetly is a male he has the breeding stars and the smaller goldfish that I thought didn't chase the female actually did chase her and he has breeding stars too

I was trying to be funny

 

I do a 20% water change because I read that it will help but is there anymore suggestions?

My sister's goldies/shubunkins would spawn every time the humidity went up before a thunderstorm. Maybe it has something to do with the change in atmospheric pressure. I don't know how you would replicate that in a tank though. She ended up with about 8-9 different spawns last summer.

 

My goldfish will attempt to mate but they never spawn either that or I don't get to the eggs on time and they get eaten. The water condition and everything is okay too so I was wondering why they don't spawn?

The biggest goldfish is a male and he is the one who does most of the chasing and he is 8 1/2 inches and the two other are a female and male and they are both around 4 1/2 or more inches.

It could be that they're both males and one of them is just not mature yet. Or maybe you're misreading their behavior. What exactly are they doing?
Sometimes goldfish like to settle up next to another goldfish, especially right after you add them to a tank.

I thought mating and spawning were the same thing?

 

I thought mating and spawning were the same thing?

The male goldfish will chase the female and "bump" against her to try to trigger her to release eggs. Then he will release sperm. There is no actual "mating", just the release of the eggs and sperm.

 

It could be that they're both males and one of them is just not mature yet. Or maybe you're misreading their behavior. What exactly are they doing?
Sometimes goldfish like to settle up next to another goldfish, especially right after you add them to a tank.

I thought mating and spawning were the same thing?

Sorry if I misused the words I thought mating was when the males chase the females and spawning is when they lay eggs but I guess not. I know they are trying to mate/spawn with the female because they keep bumping her and she is looking a little more swollen now around the belly.