My cherry shrimp are berried so why am I only seeing orange bee shrimp babies?

Alliebaaba
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I've had cherry shrimp for a while and got a female berried orange bee shrimp to join in a couple months back since then she has had many many babies and they are breeding. I know everything is good with my tank as my bee shrimp and cherry shrimp are all happy and berried! As well as I have neon tetras and guppies with fry in the tank as well! So why am I not seeing baby cherry shrimp but see plenty of baby orange bee shrimp? I'm curious as amano shrimp with eat cherry fry but will orange bee shrimp do that too? Also they can't breed together right?
 

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-Mak-
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What exactly do you mean by orange bee? Where did you get her?
I see three colors in your pictures, can you tell us which is which?

Neocaridina will interbreed, and most Caridina will interbreed. "Bee shrimp" is supposed to refer to Caridina, but they have very difficult water parameter requirements and won't breed outside of those ranges
 

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Alliebaaba
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I got the orange bee shrimp female from Petco. But she is the same size as the other cherries. I have multiple colors of the cherries. I have 2 mid-grade cherries, a Sakura red, 2 blue, orange(looks different from the orange bee), black, brown. I will take another photo to show you the different shrimp
 
richiep
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To start with amano shrimp will not eat any shrimp fry unless they are dead, the orange bee you say are a different species and like amano need brackish water to breed, i know petco sold these as bee but i think they are listed wrong
 
Alliebaaba
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This is the orange cherry. Aka so as Neocaridina shrimp all the ones I refer to as cherries were sold as Neocaridina shrimp. The orange bee shrimp didn't have any other name but they kept them with the amano shrimp in the store. But was labeled orange bee shrimp.
 

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richiep
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I know there's been confusion over these and my research says orange bee are Caradina and hard to breed, they also need brackish water of 1006
 

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Alliebaaba
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This is the Sakura red one, I would have taken a photo of the mid grade but they are hiding currently. My mid grade are definitely males though.

These are the orange bee shrimp

We're they just labeled wrong and are actually a different Neocaridina shrimp? And if that's the case then why am I only finding juveniles of them? And no babies in the other colors?

The two blues and Sakura red are females and the two mid grade cherries are males. I haven't seen the black and brown one in a couple of days so imma guess they passed away..
 

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nickbiaz
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I've had cherry shrimp for a while and got a female berried orange bee shrimp to join in a couple months back since then she has had many many babies and they are breeding. I know everything is good with my tank as my bee shrimp and cherry shrimp are all happy and berried! As well as I have neon tetras and guppies with fry in the tank as well! So why am I not seeing baby cherry shrimp but see plenty of baby orange bee shrimp? I'm curious as amano shrimp with eat cherry fry but will orange bee shrimp do that too? Also they can't breed together right?
I dont keep shrimp and dont know if they can breed with each other. If they can my guess is genetics. The shrimp could be carrying the genes for both coloring/traits and depending on who its parents are if will effect what the baby shrimp look like. I have a small understanding of genetics from high school bio honors.your cherry shrimp could all be the same gender.
 
Alliebaaba
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I dont keep shrimp but my guess is genetics. the shrimp could be carrying the genes for both colorings/traits and depending on who its parents are if will effect what the baby shrimp look like. I have a small understanding of genetics from high school bio honors.
Same and here is one of the baby shrimp!

I just thought it odd and I guess I will be calling them yellow cherries from now on hahahaha
 

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richiep
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I dont keep shrimp and dont know if they can breed with each other. If they can my guess is genetics. The shrimp could be carrying the genes for both coloring/traits and depending on who its parents are if will effect what the baby shrimp look like. I have a small understanding of genetics from high school bio honors.your cherry shrimp could all be the same gender.
You are correct in what you say genetics plays a big part in the shrimp world

From the one batch of pictures I'd say I'm looking at a fire red sakura and a yellow sakura
 

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nickbiaz
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You are correct in what you say genetics plays a big part in the shrimp world
all I really remember is punnet squares. genetics is a very insetting subject in the fish keeping.
 
richiep
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Out of curiosity do your yellows look like these as the colours may not be showing right in some photos
 

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Alliebaaba
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From the one batch of pictures I'd say I'm looking at a fire red sakura and a yellow sakura
If that's the case I feel very special! I bought them from people who use them as feeders...they were very cheep and I took as many as I could handle to keep from being fish food...

Out of curiosity do your yellows look like these as the colours may not be showing right in some photos
Yes!!! The ones on the right most specifically!!! What are those?!
 
richiep
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OK if thats the case the two photos are of sakura yellow in my tank the one on the right just looks different because of light and angle
 

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Alliebaaba
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OK if thats the case the two photos are of sakura yellow in my tank the one on the right just looks different because of light and angle
They are gorgeous! They look so much like mine!!! Now it's definitely makes sense!!!
 
richiep
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Please don't worry about amano shrimp eating young shrimp, they wont
 
Alliebaaba
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  • #17
Please don't worry about amano shrimp eating young shrimp, they wont
I wish I still had my two amano shrimp passed away shortly after I got them but all my cherries survived.. I figured I did something wrong
 
richiep
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With your colony growing i think its safe to try them again ive got 5 in one tank and they are as big as pit ponies as we say in wales
 

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-Mak-
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Thanks for all the info!

These are the orange bee shrimp
These are yellow neos. What I see from your pictures are red neos, blue neos, and yellow neos.
1) All your cherries will interbreed and eventually have clear or wild type coloration. Colors will be less strong as generations go.

2) The "orange bee", if it really is Caridina propinqua, luckily is less picky about parameters than some other Caridina.
Also, if it is truly Caridina propinqua, it will not breed with the cherries and it cannot reproduce in fresh water. Any babies you see are the result of your Neocaridinas interbreeding.

3) Baby shrimp are born clear and gain color slowly, it's hard to guess what colors they will be and what parents they have, it could be anything

4) Since you have fish in the tank as well, they may eat the shrimplets

Do you mind posting another picture of the single orange bee?
 
Alliebaaba
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Thanks for all the info!


These are yellow neos. What I see from your pictures are red neos, blue neos, and yellow neos.
1) All your cherries will interbreed and eventually have clear or wild type coloration. Colors will be less strong as generations go.

2) The "orange bee", if it really is Caridina propinqua, luckily is less picky about parameters than some other Caridina.
Also, if it is truly Caridina propinqua, it will not breed with the cherries and it cannot reproduce in fresh water. Any babies you see are the result of your Neocaridinas interbreeding.

3) Baby shrimp are born clear and gain color slowly, it's hard to guess what colors they will be and what parents they have, it could be anything

4) Since you have fish in the tank as well, they may eat the shrimplets

Do you mind posting another picture of the single orange bee?
These are the best photos I have currently! When I get home tonight I will try to provide a better photo

Thanks for all the info!


These are yellow neos. What I see from your pictures are red neos, blue neos, and yellow neos.
1) All your cherries will interbreed and eventually have clear or wild type coloration. Colors will be less strong as generations go.

2) The "orange bee", if it really is Caridina propinqua, luckily is less picky about parameters than some other Caridina.
Also, if it is truly Caridina propinqua, it will not breed with the cherries and it cannot reproduce in fresh water. Any babies you see are the result of your Neocaridinas interbreeding.

3) Baby shrimp are born clear and gain color slowly, it's hard to guess what colors they will be and what parents they have, it could be anything

4) Since you have fish in the tank as well, they may eat the shrimplets

Do you mind posting another picture of the single orange bee?
Here are some close up singles!
 

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-Mak-
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Alliebaaba
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Is this your one orange bee?
Yes, at least that's what it was labeled under. But it seems it is a Yellow Sakura Neocaridina
 
-Mak-
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Yes, at least that's what it was labeled under. But it seems it is a Yellow Sakura Neocaridina
Ah yeah, definitely yellow neo
 

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