My Blue Rams Keep Dying

Discussion in 'Freshwater Fish Disease' started by Lana Ocelot, Apr 6, 2017.

  1. Lana Ocelot

    Lana OcelotNew MemberMember

    Hi,

    I am relatively new to fish keeping (around 4 months) and have so far been pretty satisfied with my results. Everything seems happy and healthy, that is all except for my blue rams.

    I started off with a pair of electric blues from a pet shop and all seemed well for about 3 weeks, when one of them started hiding, lost a lot of its colour and had a strange red protrusion coming from its genital papilla. Unfortunately with no similar cases online, I had no idea how to treat it and the fish died.

    Feeling bad for the one solo male ram, I got another female from a different place thinking it would be a one off case, but after another two weeks the male suffered the same fate.

    All seemed well for the female that I got from a different place, so I figured it was due to the hormones they put into pet shop rams, and bought a male from the same place. Unfortunately, now the female is following the exact same pattern.

    I can't for the life of me work out what's causing this, but it's heart breaking. I love having rams, but unless I can figure out what's causing this then I won't be getting anymore for fear of killing them.

    Does anyone recognise this issue or have any advice?

     
  2. Mike the fish keeper

    Mike the fish keeperValued MemberMember

    What are the parameters such as PH, Hardness, nitrate, nitrite, and temperature.
     
  3. Jayd976

    Jayd976Well Known MemberMember

    Rams are delicate. I too never had luck with keeping them. Check your water parameters with the required parameters necessary for keeping them.
     




  4. OP
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    Lana Ocelot

    Lana OcelotNew MemberMember

    PH is 6.6, nitrates/nitrites/ammonia are undetected in my tests, temperature is about 26c (79f). The only thing I don't have a test for is the water hardness. I hope this isn't my problem, but I guess it's at least a somewhat easy fix.
     
  5. Mike the fish keeper

    Mike the fish keeperValued MemberMember

    I would up the temp to 80-83°f. They do best in warmer temps. And it might have to do with water hardness.
     
  6. OP
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    Lana Ocelot

    Lana OcelotNew MemberMember

    I'll bump up the temperature a little and invest in a water hardness test and get back to you. Thanks for your advice.
     
  7. vikingkirken

    vikingkirkenWell Known MemberMember

    Could it be camallanus worms? Try a google and see if your fishes' symptoms match...
     
  8. MaddieTaylah

    MaddieTaylahWell Known MemberMember

    Just a heads up, Bolivian rams are much hardier than German blue rams and you might have more luck with keeping them as a beginner.
     
  9. OP
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    Lana Ocelot

    Lana OcelotNew MemberMember

    It does look uncannily like that.. Uh-oh. I guess that means my whole tank needs to be quarantined, huh?
     
  10. BeanFish

    BeanFishWell Known MemberMember

    Camallanus worms more than not, healthy fish can go without showing symptoms for quite a while.
    If you want to keep rams you should consider quaranting them in a big well filtered and heated tank and deworm them before adding them to the main tank.
    You should also consider deworming your fish inhabitants as if the rams had parasites probably all the fish have it.
    Levamisole seems to be the drug most people report sucess with.
     
  11. OP
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    Lana Ocelot

    Lana OcelotNew MemberMember

    I would definitely consider it, but I've gone to every aquarium within a 30km radius and they all seem to have the exact same range of fish. German Blue rams are the only rams I've seen.

    Thank you. I've been suspicious that it was a parasitic issue, but no matter where I looked no one was describing the same problem. I guess I'm in for a busy few weeks. I appreciate everyone's help. Maybe I don't have to give up on my electric blues after all.
     
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  12. Mike the fish keeper

    Mike the fish keeperValued MemberMember

    Have you asked if they can special order. Most places can, and it doesn't hurt to ask.
     
  13. OP
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    Lana Ocelot

    Lana OcelotNew MemberMember

    Never really occurred to me. If I can check out my water hardness and treat my tank for parasites, then with any luck my remaining blue ram will live a long, happy life and I won't need to go looking for hardier fish. =)
     
  14. MaddieTaylah

    MaddieTaylahWell Known MemberMember

    Hopefully that does happen. Good luck!
     






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