My Beginners

Discussion in 'Freshwater Beginners' started by Prism, Apr 21, 2017.

  1. PrismWell Known MemberMember


    I’m very new here, and I just bought 4 frogs yesterday in a 5 gal tank, 2 of the frogs have this mysterious brownish dot on his head, and the one of them that have the dot, are floating on his back swimming, we separated him from the others, and now he’s in a separate container.

    What would you say in this condition?

    Checklist, I don’t have a filter,

    I have a bubbler.

    I have plenty of hiding areas,

    I have bamboo, and anything more?
  2. BottomDwellerFishlore VIPMember

    Hi and welcome to Fishlore!

    Do you understand the nitrogen cycle?

    Your frogs are making ammonia. Ammonia is toxic to frogs and fish. In a tank with a cycled filter the bacteria in the filter turn the ammonia into nitrite (which is also toxic) then to nitrate (which is much less toxic). Then you have to do water changes to keep nitrate below 20ppm.

    So you need a filter to keep water safe for them. They don't like a lot of water movement though. A sponge filter would be good.

    Unfortunately those frogs need 10 gallons minimum.

    Can you post a picture of the one with a dot?
  3. PrismWell Known MemberMember

    I asked the worker at Petsmart, she said 5 gallons will be enough for 4 frogs ? And yes I will post a picture, very soon.
  4. BottomDwellerFishlore VIPMember

    2.5 gallons per frog is a good rule, with more space per frog being better.
  5. PrismWell Known MemberMember

    I'm dying, I see but, I don't think my mom will go for there is any other plan, or is that the only one?
  6. BottomDwellerFishlore VIPMember

    What do you mean?

    Long term they need a bigger tank. You could rehome 2 or get a 7.5 gallon and rehome 1 or get a 10 gallon.

    Do you have a test kit?
  7. PrismWell Known MemberMember

    I do have a test kit, I'm thinking of re-homing 2, since its under a week.
  8. FanaticFishlore VIPMember

    You know that these frogs are juvenile. None of them are longer than 2 1/2 inches. I know that doesn't matter, but it doesn't appeal to me that you'd need a bigger tank. I used to deal with ADF's a lot more than I do now, and I never thought they'd need bigger at this size.

    Although, since the frogs were just purchased, you can still rehome them. The one swimming on his back, seems to have been ailed from the buying process. Theres nothing wrong in our conditions to cause this problem.
  9. sylviepldValued MemberMember

    Look on kijiji for amazing deals on tanks, filters and just about anything to do with keeping water 'critters'. I agree that they need a bigger tank and some filtration. The bigger the tank the easier it is to maintain proper water conditions because changes are more gradual.
  10. RyleighJValued MemberMember

    What kind of frogs are they? Because I believe that makes a major difference as well
  11. FanaticFishlore VIPMember

    African Dwarf. Not African Clawed

    Tip Tap, and I have decided on an optimal decision.

    What is our idea?
    Rehome all the frogs that we just purcahsed, and instead of frogs. Tip wants a betta fish for the 5g.

    We will be going to our LFS t0 check out the betta display, and see if we can grab a good one!

    What do you think?
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