Mini Monster Stocking

Discussion in 'Aquarium Stocking Questions' started by Wumbology, Jul 11, 2015.

  1. WumbologyNew MemberMember

    I wanted to do a mini monster setup that would include:

    1 Trinidad pleco
    4 clown loaches
    1 ornate bichir
    1 black ghost knife fish
    1 datnoid (Siamese tiger fish)
    1 Asian needle nose gar

    I was also interested in adding another fish or school of fish (preferably a mid or top level swimmer)
    I figured a standard 180 gallon could serve the fish well, but I'd like to hear from someone with experience in this subsection of the hobby

    Also what is your recommended types of food for these fish

    Thanks in advance for all your help

    P.S. Nothing has been purchased, so everything listed can be changed
     
  2. Anders247Fishlore LegendMember

    What are the dimensions of the tank?
    Clown loaches need a group of 6+.
    Datnoids can get 2 feet, which is supposed to be uncommon, but it wouldn't work in a standard 180.
     




  3. WumbologyNew MemberMember

    6' 2' 2'
    It was my understanding that datnoids only grow to 15 or 16 inches
    Do you have any other additions or subtractions that you would recommend
     




  4. Anders247Fishlore LegendMember

    Nope. Otherwise it looks fine to me besides 2 more clowns.
     




  5. WumbologyNew MemberMember

    Thanks do you have any recommended food?
     
  6. Anders247Fishlore LegendMember

    Trinidad plecos are omnivorous, so you will need to feed them catfish pellets.
    Clown loaches are carnivores, so you can feed them bloodworms and catfish pellets.
    I've read that bichirs need frozen foods and live foods.....
    BGK, not sure. @freak78 should be able to help with that.
    The gar is a carnivore, so live foods and frozen foods.
    And I also have read that needle nose gar should be in a school.
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2015
  7. Dom90Fishlore VIPMember

    You mean clown loaches?



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  8. Anders247Fishlore LegendMember

    Lol, yeah....
     
  9. BDpupsWell Known MemberMember

    What kind of dat are you thinking of? There are ones that will work in a 180.
     
  10. WumbologyNew MemberMember

    I was thinking of the gold datnoid
     
  11. BDpupsWell Known MemberMember

    That would work.
     
  12. WumbologyNew MemberMember

    Cool
    So would this stocking be fine
    1 Asian needle nose gar
    1 gold datnoid
    1 Trinidad pleco
    1 black ghost knife fish
    1 ornate bichir
    6 clown loaches

    in a standard 180 gallon aquarium
     
  13. WumbologyNew MemberMember

    Also does anyone have a suggestion for a fish or school of fish (preferably mid-level swimmers) that I could add to this group or is the stocking already at the max
     
  14. Dom90Fishlore VIPMember

    What about a Banded Leporinus?


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  15. BDpupsWell Known MemberMember

  16. Dom90Fishlore VIPMember

    I'm afraid silver dollars would be too small for a "monster" tank with 1' or bigger fish.


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  17. PlecomakerWell Known MemberMember

    Personally i think its pretty close to max.
    sometimes clownloaches will school, sometimes. You may already know that, just didnt want you to thik you didnt have one possible school.

    also would silver dollars be ok with gar? Just a question, i dont know the answer.
     
  18. WumbologyNew MemberMember

    I like the idea of the banded leporinus but would it harm the gar. I've heard they are major nippers. Would an electric blue jack Dempsey work?
     
  19. BDpupsWell Known MemberMember

    Silver dollars will grow to 6 inches. They would fit very nicely in there. The gar or bichir may go after them. Buy i doubt it. If the OP is interested in them, but feel the regular Metynnis argenteus are too small, then Red Hooks would work too.
     
  20. Dom90Fishlore VIPMember

    I have heard EBJDs can get quite aggressive so I'm not sure how they would do with the other fish.


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