Mini Monster Stocking

Discussion in 'Aquarium Stocking Questions' started by Wumbology, Jul 11, 2015.

  1. W

    Wumbology New Member Member

    I wanted to do a mini monster setup that would include:

    1 Trinidad pleco
    4 clown loaches
    1 ornate bichir
    1 black ghost knife fish
    1 datnoid (Siamese tiger fish)
    1 Asian needle nose gar

    I was also interested in adding another fish or school of fish (preferably a mid or top level swimmer)
    I figured a standard 180 gallon could serve the fish well, but I'd like to hear from someone with experience in this subsection of the hobby

    Also what is your recommended types of food for these fish

    Thanks in advance for all your help

    P.S. Nothing has been purchased, so everything listed can be changed
     
  2. Anders247

    Anders247 Fishlore Legend Member

    What are the dimensions of the tank?
    Clown loaches need a group of 6+.
    Datnoids can get 2 feet, which is supposed to be uncommon, but it wouldn't work in a standard 180.
     
  3. OP
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    W

    Wumbology New Member Member

    6' 2' 2'
    It was my understanding that datnoids only grow to 15 or 16 inches
    Do you have any other additions or subtractions that you would recommend
     




  4. Anders247

    Anders247 Fishlore Legend Member

    Nope. Otherwise it looks fine to me besides 2 more clowns.
     
  5. OP
    OP
    W

    Wumbology New Member Member

    Thanks do you have any recommended food?
     
  6. Anders247

    Anders247 Fishlore Legend Member

    Trinidad plecos are omnivorous, so you will need to feed them catfish pellets.
    Clown loaches are carnivores, so you can feed them bloodworms and catfish pellets.
    I've read that bichirs need frozen foods and live foods.....
    BGK, not sure. @freak78 should be able to help with that.
    The gar is a carnivore, so live foods and frozen foods.
    And I also have read that needle nose gar should be in a school.
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2015
  7. Dom90

    Dom90 Fishlore VIP Member

    You mean clown loaches?



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  8. Anders247

    Anders247 Fishlore Legend Member

    Lol, yeah....
     
  9. BDpups

    BDpups Well Known Member Member

    What kind of dat are you thinking of? There are ones that will work in a 180.
     
  10. OP
    OP
    W

    Wumbology New Member Member

    I was thinking of the gold datnoid
     
  11. BDpups

    BDpups Well Known Member Member

    That would work.
     
  12. OP
    OP
    W

    Wumbology New Member Member

    Cool
    So would this stocking be fine
    1 Asian needle nose gar
    1 gold datnoid
    1 Trinidad pleco
    1 black ghost knife fish
    1 ornate bichir
    6 clown loaches

    in a standard 180 gallon aquarium
     
  13. OP
    OP
    W

    Wumbology New Member Member

    Also does anyone have a suggestion for a fish or school of fish (preferably mid-level swimmers) that I could add to this group or is the stocking already at the max
     
  14. Dom90

    Dom90 Fishlore VIP Member

    What about a Banded Leporinus?


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  15. BDpups

    BDpups Well Known Member Member

    Silver dollars would work.
     
  16. Dom90

    Dom90 Fishlore VIP Member

    I'm afraid silver dollars would be too small for a "monster" tank with 1' or bigger fish.


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  17. Plecomaker

    Plecomaker Well Known Member Member

    Personally i think its pretty close to max.
    sometimes clownloaches will school, sometimes. You may already know that, just didnt want you to thik you didnt have one possible school.

    also would silver dollars be ok with gar? Just a question, i dont know the answer.
     
  18. OP
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    W

    Wumbology New Member Member

    I like the idea of the banded leporinus but would it harm the gar. I've heard they are major nippers. Would an electric blue jack Dempsey work?
     
  19. BDpups

    BDpups Well Known Member Member

    Silver dollars will grow to 6 inches. They would fit very nicely in there. The gar or bichir may go after them. Buy i doubt it. If the OP is interested in them, but feel the regular Metynnis argenteus are too small, then Red Hooks would work too.
     
  20. Dom90

    Dom90 Fishlore VIP Member

    I have heard EBJDs can get quite aggressive so I'm not sure how they would do with the other fish.


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