Mini Angel Fish?

Discussion in 'Freshwater Beginners' started by Baba B, Jun 9, 2016.

  1. Baba B

    Baba BNew MemberMember


    I have been unable to identify this species of fish in my tank:



    They look like miniature angel fish. I don't think they are babies, because when I first got them they were smaller and didn't have so much color. Their backs have turned light yellow, their stripes have gotten more pronounced, and their eyes turned red. Also their anal? fins have these little hook structures on the tips now which weren't there before.

    Can anyone tell me what these fish are? Thanks!
  2. Skyy2112

    Skyy2112Valued MemberMember

    Most definitely an angel to me. Not sure what the baby ones look like, but I have seen angels this small. He/she is looking really good. =]
  3. bizaliz3

    bizaliz3Fishlore LegendMember

    Looks like a very young and healthy angelfish to me! They can look like mini angels as soon as they are a month old. They just have a lot of growing to do still!

  4. OP
    Baba B

    Baba BNew MemberMember

    I’ve had them for maybe two months now and they haven’t gotten any larger. I guess I’ll just wait and see!

  5. hampalong

    hampalongWell Known MemberMember

    There isn't a miniature species of Angel. If they're not growing, they could possibly be runts, or not getting enough food or water changes. How much do you change, and how often?
  6. OP
    Baba B

    Baba BNew MemberMember

    25-30% every day or every other day. They are in a heavily stocked tank at the moment, but wil be moving into something bigger soon.

    Now that I look closely I guess they have gotten slightly bigger. How long does it usally take for an angel fish to achieve adult size?
  7. DoubleDutch

    DoubleDutchFishlore LegendMember

    How big is the tank. That might be the issue
  8. OP
    Baba B

    Baba BNew MemberMember

    I bought them out of a fish market tank where there were probably ~20 in a very small tank, I'd guess about 2 gallons. Now they are in my 11.5 gallon, and I will be moving them into a 33 gallon within the next couple days. I know that it should be more like a 55 gallon, but 33 is the best I can do for now (~_~)*
  9. DoubleDutch

    DoubleDutchFishlore LegendMember

    The tanksize is the reason they are hardly growing.
    They need space.
  10. OP
    Baba B

    Baba BNew MemberMember

    I will have a 33 gallon and an 11.5 gallon. I bought a lot of fish before I knew anything about keeping them, thanks to deceptive fish sellers. I have 3 angel fish (1 big, two small), a rainbow shark, 8 mollies, 6 platys and 4 guppies (3 female, one male). How would you split them up between those two tanks for optimum happiness?

    Right now I plan to move the angel fish, mollies and shark to the larger tank once it's ready. I am not sure what to do about the guppies once they start breeding though. What about adding a betta to eat the fry? I am worried that once the larger fish are gone they will overpopulate the tank.

    I want to keep the fish the best way I can with the two tanks I am able to have at the moment. The only option I have to get rid of fish is to kill them, which I don't want to do :(
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2016
  11. PeacefantasyWell Known MemberMember

    The rainbow shark needs a minimum of 55g, a single molly needs 29g minimum and angels should never be kept in trios..
    I would check on social network or craigslist..sonething to rehome some of your fish.
    If not, a lot of lfs will take them in
  12. bizaliz3

    bizaliz3Fishlore LegendMember

    I hate to say this but, to put it bluntly, you are killing them all right now. A long, slow, stressful death at that....

    You aren't just a little bit over stocked... you are incredibly Dangerously overstocked. I'm sorry you ended up in this situation :-( it's a tough spot to be in.

    Do you have any local fish stores that you could bring them to?
  13. DoubleDutch

    DoubleDutchFishlore LegendMember

    And I also don't wanna be rude but think in the first place it is the buyers responsebility to read, inform etc.... on the fish one's buying. Don't (only) blame the seller. To be honest : he is doing is job.

    There are a lot of other ways than to kill them (as mentioned by the other members).
  14. superbutterfly12Well Known MemberMember

    I would put the two small angelfish and the guppies and maybe two or three platies in the bigger tank, and 3 or 4 platies in the smaller tank and rehome the rest.
  15. codyrex97

    codyrex97Well Known MemberMember

    Just popping in to wish you luck with these fish! I hope you manage to keep as many as possible, especially the Angels, pretty! And I hope you successfully re-home the rest.

    Keep us posted on what happens. Here to help!
  16. OP
    Baba B

    Baba BNew MemberMember

    I’ve never kept fish before, so I didn’t research because when a seller tells you “oh yeah, all these species can live together in this tank” you don’t start to question it until fish start dying.

    I live in China ,so there is no LFS or concept of animal cruelty here. After learning about fish I wouldn’t feel right returning them to the fish market. If the dealers would even take them, they’d just be going into more overstocked tanks than they’re in now and be doomed to live a short and horrible life.

    I had even more fish before, but unsurprisingly a lot died. I gave some to a friend, and then they also died. So I don’t want to rehome any more unless I meet a competant hobbyist here. The remainder of the fish seem to be healthy and stable for now. No one is having fin rot or has shown other signs of stress for a while. No one is fighting or being territorial either.

    So yeah, all I can do is keep the water clean and hope for the best, upgrading as I am able.
  17. superbutterfly12Well Known MemberMember

    In that case...I'd do mollies, guppies shark and the larger Angel in the bigger tank. Baby angels and platys in the smaller tank.
  18. PeacefantasyWell Known MemberMember

    Youre going to need a very large tank to hold all of those fish in a healthy environment..
    Just saying.
    Good luck
  19. DoubleDutch

    DoubleDutchFishlore LegendMember

    I disagree with baby angels in.the smaller (tiny) tank. Angels don't belong there and more important : don't grow !
  20. PeacefantasyWell Known MemberMember

    In a 33g, 7 mollies, 2 angels and the shark at a minimum would have to go..
    The guppies could stay if you had a plan for the fry..which sounds like survival of the fittest would be the plan. And with 3 females and a male, still doesnt sound like it would work. IMO
    And adding a betta in the mix? No..that would be a bloodbath.

    I still think the best option is to sell or return the fish. Just my opinion

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