Methylene Blue frequency question

mkeyz
  • #1
When using methalyne blue as treatment for 2-3 days for an ongoing problem that doesn't go away completely but improves with methylene blue treatments. How often should I do those treatments. He has had a a 2-3 day(his first) before and it improved but then eventually went back to bad again. I tried later doing it as a dip instead but that had not much effect and it caused him to go into like a shock of some sort, but the 2-3 day did not cause the shock. He is fine now he recovered after about 5-10 mins from the shock and I monitored him closely for days after. I'm doing another(his second) 2-3 day treatment already. I just don't know how often to do these treatments. Someone who knows a bunch about fish told me if I wait until it flares up to do a treatment I'm waiting too late and that I need to do these treatments on the regular. They told me to ask a fish forum or fb group to find out how often though.
 

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Demeter
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M. blue is a very gentle treatment, I use it to prevent fungus on eggs and it also works wonder for skin/fin problems. I've used it on fish for several days at a time with every other day water changes and re applying the meds. I would use it until the damage looks to be healing over.
 

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86 ssinit
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Ok what is the problem you’re treating for? What type of fish? How long have you had it?
 
mkeyz
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  • #4
M. blue is a very gentle treatment, I use it to prevent fungus on eggs and it also works wonder for skin/fin problems. I've used it on fish for several days at a time with every other day water changes and re applying the meds. I would use it until the damage looks to be healing over.
It's the fish in my profile picture. Male Betta fish. I have previous thread about this too but I couldn't find it to link here maybe an admin can. But yeah this is an ongoing problem. Idk if it's a cyst, tumor, or something else. These are pics from the last time it flared up(his 1st M. Blue treatment)
Here's better pics
I've had him like maybe 4-5 months now I believe give or take a month.
 

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86 ssinit
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Yeah no clue what it is. Seems bettas have so many problems somebody should write a list of problems and treatments. But I guess it would be such a long book with no ending in sight nobody want to attempt it :). Looks to my untrained betta eye to be bacterial. May be a water problem or just inbred into the fish. Where did you get the betta?
 

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mkeyz
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  • #7
Yeah no clue what it is. Seems bettas have so many problems somebody should write a list of problems and treatments. But I guess it would be such a long book with no ending in sight nobody want to attempt it :). Looks to my untrained betta eye to be bacterial. May be a water problem or just inbred into the fish. Where did you get the betta?
Pet store
 
Demeter
  • #8
It's the ever so common tumors that plague bettas. Nothing you did wrong, just bad genes. Long ago I accidentally bred a female HM that developed a tumor like that (after I bred her) and she passed it on to some of her young.

These tumors seem to occur in the pigment layers of the skin. Often times they are shiny white and most often effect dragon and koi lines. Nothing to be done but keep him comfortable and prevent infection should the tumor rupture (they usually do at some point). Sometimes you can even drain the tumors with a lance or small needle and syringe but that only makes them shrink. Best case scenario is it occurs on the fin and you can cut it off (fins regrow just fine) but when it grows on the body like your poor guy there really is no treatment.
 
mkeyz
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
It's the ever so common tumors that plague bettas. Nothing you did wrong, just bad genes. Long ago I accidentally bred a female HM that developed a tumor like that (after I bred her) and she passed it on to some of her young.

These tumors seem to occur in the pigment layers of the skin. Often times they are shiny white and most often effect dragon and koi lines. Nothing to be done but keep him comfortable and prevent infection should the tumor rupture (they usually do at some point). Sometimes you can even drain the tumors with a lance or small needle and syringe but that only makes them shrink. Best case scenario is it occurs on the fin and you can cut it off (fins regrow just fine) but when it grows on the body like your poor guy there really is no treatment.
It did already rupture at one point and in that case the methylene blue did help
 

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mkeyz
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  • #10
This may be your original post?
https://www.fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/threads/updated-bump-on-my-betta-worsened.530995/
I would say the issue is lymphocystis and the MB has no effect on it?
The fish looks to be recovering, but Lympho can just go away on its own anyways..
I'm thinking of switching over to live plants/planted tank do you think this might be a better option/could help him with his issues?
It's the ever so common tumors that plague bettas. Nothing you did wrong, just bad genes. Long ago I accidentally bred a female HM that developed a tumor like that (after I bred her) and she passed it on to some of her young.

These tumors seem to occur in the pigment layers of the skin. Often times they are shiny white and most often effect dragon and koi lines. Nothing to be done but keep him comfortable and prevent infection should the tumor rupture (they usually do at some point). Sometimes you can even drain the tumors with a lance or small needle and syringe but that only makes them shrink. Best case scenario is it occurs on the fin and you can cut it off (fins regrow just fine) but when it grows on the body like your poor guy there really is no treatment.
I'm thinking of switching over to live plants/planted tank do you think this might be a better option/could help him with his issues?
Yeah no clue what it is. Seems bettas have so many problems somebody should write a list of problems and treatments. But I guess it would be such a long book with no ending in sight nobody want to attempt it :). Looks to my untrained betta eye to be bacterial. May be a water problem or just inbred into the fish. Where did you get the betta?
I'm thinking of switching over to live plants/planted tank do you think this might be a better option/could help him with his issues?
 
86 ssinit
  • #11
Planted tanks are nice. But they are more demanding. Water changes will still need to be done. Thing with these store bought bettas is there just bred for fast sales. For good bettas you’d need to find a private breeder. Would be a better quality and better genetics.
As to a planted tank being better. I don’t think it’s going to matter.
 

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