Medications?????

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I would love for anyone to post there knowledge about medications. I heard that any of the -fixes are actually harming the fish and are just watered down. Thankfully 'crossed fingers, knock on wood' I have not needed to treat my fish. Well, I did have a small ick break out about 87 years ago. I gave the fish a salt bath and treated with rid ick. Took the carbon out and was gone withing 3 days. Anyone know about "fish antibiotics"? Erythromycin, furan, triple sulfa, melafix, cephalexin, pneicillin. I heard also its better to use the pill for of medicine instead of the liquid. I researching a lot on my own but its better to learn by experience so any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
 
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Mike1995 said:
87 years ago? :eek:
Erythromycin is a anti bacterial. I believe it helps with bacterial infections and or parasites.
For ich I usually try to raise the temperature and see if I can eradicate it that way first.
Mike1995 said:
87 years ago? :eek:
Erythromycin is a anti bacterial. I believe it helps with bacterial infections and or parasites.
For ich I usually try to raise the temperature and see if I can eradicate it that way first.
Also, if bacterial infection that wouldnt help with parasite...
 

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Antibiotic fish meds are systematically being banned in countries around the world. IMO, its just a matter of time until they are banned in the USA. All it takes is to follow the forums, learn that the use of antibiotics rarely cure true bacterial infections.
Melafix & related meds simply act as a disinfectant & can be harmful to certain varieties of fish, especially Bettas.
The owner of a local mom & pop LFS, swears by the stuff, using Melafix as a preventative when acclimating new fish.
The only two meds I can reccomend are Formalin & Copper Sulfate. Both can be used for parasitic infections. Copper Sulfate is said to aid in treating certain bacterial infections as well.
Those meds should only be used in extreme situations.
The best medication is prevention. A well maintained tank, clean water & carefully selected stock.
 
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A201 said:
Antibiotic fish meds are systematically being banned in countries around the world. IMO, its just a matter of time until they are banned in the USA. All it takes is to follow the forums, learn that the use of antibiotics rarely cure true bacterial infections.
Melafix & related meds simply act as a disinfectant & can be harmful to certain varieties of fish, especially Bettas.
The owner of a local mom & pop LFS, swears by the stuff, using Melafix as a preventative when acclimating new fish.
The only two meds I can reccomend are Formalin & Copper Sulfate. Both can be used for parasitic infections. Copper Sulfate is said to aid in treating certain bacterial infections as well.
Those meds should only be used in extreme situations.
The best medication is prevention. A well maintained tank, clean water & carefully selected stock.
Yeah, I hear they are being banned because people are using it for their own consumption. Its dumb. So, our fish have to suffer because these crazy crack head cant afford to go to the doctor to get their own medicine?? The mealafix I have had really good luck with.... Its basically just watered down tea tree oil. So, is it okay to just get the concentrated oil and put some drops in? I use the stuff on my own body. Probably healthier than the hydrogen peroxide method that make no sense to me...
 
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LOL yeah, 87 years. It was a bold statement. I work as an aquatic specialist and i guess have had really good luck not having to deal with disease. Like I said "knock on wood" So, when people come in with sick fish questions I am kinda in the dark. So just looking to hear experiences and knowledge
 

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https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/FA/FA08400.pdf

But, basically, trimethoprim sulfamethoxazole and ciprofloxacin from fishmoxfishflex.com (they have a sale every few weeks).

And stay away from penicillins, tetracyclines, and erythromycin.

My vets have prescribed trimethoprim and enrofloxacin when they didn't use injectable cephalosporins (the really good stuff!). Ciprofloxacin is a substitute for enrofloxacin which is hard to find without a prescription.

Shelf life of dry antibiotics is way beyond the expiration date (perhaps a century for some if stored properly) so don't throw them out and don't hesitate to stock up.
 
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AvalancheDave said:
https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/FA/FA08400.pdf

But, basically, trimethoprim sulfamethoxazole and ciprofloxacin from fishmoxfishflex.com (they have a sale every few weeks).

And stay away from penicillins, tetracyclines, and erythromycin.

My vets have prescribed trimethoprim and enrofloxacin when they didn't use injectable cephalosporins (the really good stuff!). Ciprofloxacin is a substitute for enrofloxacin which is hard to find without a prescription.

Shelf life of dry antibiotics is way beyond the expiration date (perhaps a century for some if stored properly) so don't throw them out and don't hesitate to stock up.
Im just curious as to what is wrong with penicillins, tetracyclines, and erythromycin.
 

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neverenoughgallons said:
Im just curious as to what is wrong with penicillins, tetracyclines, and erythromycin.
Did you read the PDF?
 

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neverenoughgallons said:
Im just curious as to what is wrong with penicillins, tetracyclines, and erythromycin.
There is nothing wrong with the Antibiotic itself. But it was/is used as remedie for any disease, bacteria are now resistant to antibiotic and it lost its effectiveness. That is a problem in humans as well as in fish.
 

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Fisch said:
There is nothing wrong with the Antibiotic itself. But it was/is used as remedie for any disease, bacteria are now resistant to antibiotic and it lost its effectiveness. That is a problem in humans as well as in fish.
Tetracyclines have issues with resistance and binding ions such as calcium.

From the PDF (or the web version of it):

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