Medicating and salting tank

eligri
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Hey!

Going to be merging two aquariums soon. One has some tetras that have had unmedicated wierd growths on their mouths and white fin tips for years. Rest of fish seem healthy, but I was suggested to medicate them before merging the tanks.

What can I safely use on the whole tank? Would much prefer not setting upp a QT tank.

It has:
Shrimp (amano, cherry, ghost)
Yoyo loach
Kuhli loach (striped and brown)
Pleco (common and longfin)
Neon tetra (these have the growth).

The growths are OLD (1-2 years old atleast). No visible signs on the rest of the fish nor the shrimp.

Can I safely use salt? And meds? How long? Is active carbon fine to remain in the tank?

Thanks!
 

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SinisterCichlids
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Man that water looks yellow. I hope that's just the photo haha! If the growths have been there for years it would have already affected their health, and they would've kicked the bucket. So it most likely isn't a fungal infection or something. Most likely a tumor, where nothing can be done anyway. Neon tetras are overbred in bad conditions, so things like that are more common. I don't think there is any medicine from your description or photo that needs to be put in the tank as a precautionary measure.

Sounds to me like the advice was just to make you buy something without having any actual knowledge of the growths you are talking about. Scaleless fish don't take well to salt. So I think it would be pointless if not treating for something specific like ich.

Active carbon will remove medications from the tank. It can also potentially remove vital nutrients for plants if your tank is planted. So if you were to medicate for something specific or just because you want to, then removing active carbon would be a good idea. Still, I don't suggest it without knowing what you are medicating for, because then you are just adding stress for fun.
 

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AvalancheDave
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It looks like Saprolegnia at least as a secondary infection.
 
SinisterCichlids
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It looks like Saprolegnia at least as a secondary infection.

I don't know, saprolegnia is more cotton fuzzy like. These look like actual rounded tumors. The fish have had it for 2 years, if it was fungal, wouldn't it have spread and killed them by now?
 
eligri
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  • #5
So here's the thing, most of the tetras had it. Some it dissapeared for, some it didn't. All the other fish look healthy.

And yes, that's just the photo and the surface vegetation making the water look yellow I do weekly 35-40% WC's in that tank.

Should I use Salt or something else in that tank?
They had what looked like fuzzy growth on the lips for a while, that photo is the end-stage.
All the tetras lived quite a long time though; 3-4 years from when I bought them. That tank has been pretty neglected tbh, mostly just been used as a home for my ugly shrimp (the pretty ones go into a smaller 5 gallon tank) and a space to grow for fish so they don't become food when moved to the bigger tank.

Most/All of the tetras have had/have:
Fuzzy lip growth (like a white ball)
White fin tips


They had this for 1-3 years. No mass-deaths, just vanished one by one last year or two.

How would something like this:
Hobby Ektozon Salt
affect my RCS, Amano's, Ghost shrimp, yoyo loaches, kuhli loaches and pleco (common and longfin)?

https://www.zoo.se/hobby-ektozon-salt.html

And just to be clear: The tetras will not be transferred to the new tank. They would become food for my Oscar far too quickly. They will be given away to a lfs, along with some other smaller fish.

The transfer would include:
Kuhli loaches, yoyo loaches, shrimp, pleco. None of these have had any symptoms at all, despite sharing tank with the Tetras for years. Should I still treat the tank, just incase they have something I can't see? Would hate to infect my main tank with anything nasty...
 
eligri
  • Thread Starter
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Picture of the two last Tetras. Note the white bottom-fin of the one tetra.

And no, he isn't missing his rear fin. It just blends into the background very nicely
 

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eligri
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Did just now notice my pleco has some rough white skin on his stomach. Not sure if this is normal though. He seems healthy, I think.
 

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eligri
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He also has white patches on his top. They kinda look like part of his skin though, but I really am not sure..

(They don't look as bad as the side-photo. The camera isn't doing it justice).
 

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LeviS
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The white tumors on the neon are called "snout chondroma" its pretty common with neons. Lol you can Google it as its all to scientific for me to explain other than its a benign tumor. I had daw articles while I was researching something else for a guppy I had(saddleback/columnaris).
 
eligri
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
The white tumors on the neon are called "snout chondroma" its pretty common with neons. Lol you can Google it as its all to scientific for me to explain other than its a benign tumor. I had daw articles while I was researching something else for a guppy I had(saddleback/columnaris).
So many of them had it though. Is it that common?

How about the pleco?

Also is that salt safe for those fish/shrimp?

Thanks a lot everybody for helping out, been stressing myself upp over all this...
 
LeviS
  • #11
So many of them had it though. Is it that common?

How about the pleco?
I think it stems from the farms/breeding, water conditions, I didnt read the full article as I was researching saddleback at the time. Neons have 3 main health issues, neon tetra disease is 1, the tumors was another and I dont remember the 3rd from the article. Look up neon tetra health issues on Google, theres alot of scientific articles that pop up, im not a professional at them, I was just passing along what it was so you could look and research it.

Edit: im not sure on pleco, I can only comment on my experiences or things I've come across. If substrate is rough I imagine it could cause some scarring essentially due to the amount of time they spend on the bottom.
 
eligri
  • Thread Starter
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I think it stems from the farms/breeding, water conditions, I didnt read the full article as I was researching saddleback at the time. Neons have 3 main health issues, neon tetra disease is 1, the tumors was another and I dont remember the 3rd from the article. Look up neon tetra health issues on Google, theres alot of scientific articles that pop up, im not a professional at them, I was just passing along what it was so you could look and research it.

Edit: im not sure on pleco, I can only comment on my experiences or things I've come across. If substrate is rough I imagine it could cause some scarring essentially due to the amount of time they spend on the bottom.
Could also just be his skin pattern, tbh.

Anybody got experience with salting tank with shrimp in it?
I assume pleco are safe, but what about Yoyo and kuhli loaches?
 

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