Male or Females? (Hopefully a Mix!) Question

Discussion in 'Ram Cichlid' started by VenomGrass, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. VenomGrass

    VenomGrass Valued Member Member

    Males or Females? :confused:
    Fish: A
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    335.jpg
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    337.jpg

    Fish: B
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    Thanks a Lot!
    Dan
     
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2010
  2. Butterfly

    Butterfly Moderator Moderator Member

    Are you sure those are Rams? Couldn't find your gallery sorry.
    Carol
     
  3. OP
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    VenomGrass

    VenomGrass Valued Member Member

    Yeah Bolivian Rams? Lol I hope! haha
     




  4. Butterfly

    Butterfly Moderator Moderator Member

  5. mathas

    mathas Well Known Member Member

    The pictures that will help the most for sexing are side shots with a clear view of the area between the pectoral and anal fins, ideally against something that will contrast with the body color of the fish, like your plants or large rocks, rather than the black and white gravel.

    Given that, I can't tell from the picture posted in the thread, nor from most of the pictures in your album. The few that did have clues (all based on ventral differences) are pictures DSC01211, DSC01212, and DSC01213, all of which appear to be male.
     
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    VenomGrass

    VenomGrass Valued Member Member

    Fish 1:
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    Fish 2:
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    Fish 1 & 2:
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    Thanks - Hope that helps.
     
  7. Butterfly

    Butterfly Moderator Moderator Member

    Thanks for chiming in Mathas. I'm hopeless with Bolivians.
    Carol
     
  8. mathas

    mathas Well Known Member Member

    #1 is a male.

    #2 looks female in those shots, but I'm not certain since the pectoral fins are folded back and blocking the breeding tube. But the general "look" (which is really unscientific :p) and the way his/her body tapers upwards toward the anal fin makes me think female.
     
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    VenomGrass

    VenomGrass Valued Member Member

    Wahooo I hope lol/ Cheers mathas :p
     
  10. platy ben

    platy ben Well Known Member Member

    I agree with Mathas, male and female :)
     
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    VenomGrass

    VenomGrass Valued Member Member

    Bolivian Ram's: Please Sex [NEW PICS]

    Fish: A
    334.jpg
    335.jpg
    336.jpg
    337.jpg

    Fish: B
    338.jpg
    339.jpg
    340.jpg
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    Thanks a Lot!
    Dan
     
  12. Shawnie

    Shawnie Fishlore Legend Member

    Hi venom
    ive combined your new pics with your original post :)
     
  13. bolivianbaby

    bolivianbaby Fishlore Legend Member

    From the pics, they look like two females to me. I'm hoping Mathas sees this post. He's really good at sexing bolivians and can probably give you a more accurate answer than I can.
     
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    VenomGrass

    VenomGrass Valued Member Member

    Cheers shawnie; was just about to message you regarding this! :)
     
  15. mathas

    mathas Well Known Member Member

    Fish A: I'm still unsure... everything gives me the feeling of female except the vent, which looks female in some pictures and kind of male in others :( It's either a young female or a non-dominant male, but I'm leaning towards female.

    Fish B: Male.
     
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    VenomGrass

    VenomGrass Valued Member Member

    Mathas your a charm!
    Fish A: Is the control master always chasing fish B around and ramming. Fish B backs away to fish A.

    Does this help? It feels like algebra using letters haha.
    Cheers, Dan
     
  17. mathas

    mathas Well Known Member Member

    That makes me lean much more heavily towards A being female, but the only 110% sure way to know it's a female is to watch her lay eggs.
     
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    VenomGrass

    VenomGrass Valued Member Member

    Thanks mathas I really respect your help! I was thinking they were two males due to the ramming. but I suppose it's obvious they'll ram- the name kinda gives it away haha. How often do they lay eggs and when do they do this? (when comfortable etc)
    Cheers Mathas
     
  19. mathas

    mathas Well Known Member Member

    They can lay eggs every 3 weeks, but mine are typically every 4-5.

    For an in-depth description, cichlid-forum has a great guide:  
     




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