Male or Females? (Hopefully a Mix!) Question

Discussion in 'Ram Cichlid' started by VenomGrass, Dec 28, 2009.

  1. VenomGrassValued MemberMember

    Males or Females? :confused:
    Fish: A
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    335.jpg
    336.jpg
    337.jpg

    Fish: B
    338.jpg
    339.jpg
    340.jpg
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    Thanks a Lot!
    Dan
     




    Last edited: Jan 1, 2010
  2. ButterflyModeratorModerator Member

    Are you sure those are Rams? Couldn't find your gallery sorry.
    Carol
     




  3. VenomGrassValued MemberMember

    Yeah Bolivian Rams? Lol I hope! haha
     




  4. ButterflyModeratorModerator Member

  5. mathasWell Known MemberMember

    The pictures that will help the most for sexing are side shots with a clear view of the area between the pectoral and anal fins, ideally against something that will contrast with the body color of the fish, like your plants or large rocks, rather than the black and white gravel.

    Given that, I can't tell from the picture posted in the thread, nor from most of the pictures in your album. The few that did have clues (all based on ventral differences) are pictures DSC01211, DSC01212, and DSC01213, all of which appear to be male.
     
  6. VenomGrassValued MemberMember

    Fish 1:
    341.jpg

    Fish 2:
    342.jpg

    Fish 1 & 2:
    343.jpg

    Thanks - Hope that helps.
     
  7. ButterflyModeratorModerator Member

    Thanks for chiming in Mathas. I'm hopeless with Bolivians.
    Carol
     
  8. mathasWell Known MemberMember

    #1 is a male.

    #2 looks female in those shots, but I'm not certain since the pectoral fins are folded back and blocking the breeding tube. But the general "look" (which is really unscientific :p) and the way his/her body tapers upwards toward the anal fin makes me think female.
     
  9. VenomGrassValued MemberMember

    Wahooo I hope lol/ Cheers mathas :p
     
  10. platy benWell Known MemberMember

    I agree with Mathas, male and female :)
     
  11. VenomGrassValued MemberMember

    Bolivian Ram's: Please Sex [NEW PICS]

    Fish: A
    334.jpg
    335.jpg
    336.jpg
    337.jpg

    Fish: B
    338.jpg
    339.jpg
    340.jpg
    [​IMG]

    Thanks a Lot!
    Dan
     
  12. ShawnieFishlore LegendMember

    Hi venom
    ive combined your new pics with your original post :)
     
  13. bolivianbabyFishlore LegendMember

    From the pics, they look like two females to me. I'm hoping Mathas sees this post. He's really good at sexing bolivians and can probably give you a more accurate answer than I can.
     
  14. VenomGrassValued MemberMember

    Cheers shawnie; was just about to message you regarding this! :)
     
  15. mathasWell Known MemberMember

    Fish A: I'm still unsure... everything gives me the feeling of female except the vent, which looks female in some pictures and kind of male in others :( It's either a young female or a non-dominant male, but I'm leaning towards female.

    Fish B: Male.
     
  16. VenomGrassValued MemberMember

    Mathas your a charm!
    Fish A: Is the control master always chasing fish B around and ramming. Fish B backs away to fish A.

    Does this help? It feels like algebra using letters haha.
    Cheers, Dan
     
  17. mathasWell Known MemberMember

    That makes me lean much more heavily towards A being female, but the only 110% sure way to know it's a female is to watch her lay eggs.
     
  18. VenomGrassValued MemberMember

    Thanks mathas I really respect your help! I was thinking they were two males due to the ramming. but I suppose it's obvious they'll ram- the name kinda gives it away haha. How often do they lay eggs and when do they do this? (when comfortable etc)
    Cheers Mathas
     
  19. mathasWell Known MemberMember

    They can lay eggs every 3 weeks, but mine are typically every 4-5.

    For an in-depth description, cichlid-forum has a great guide:  
     
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