Male or female Orange Koi

Anyone know if it's a boy or girl angelfish

 

I think this as an angelfish, not a koi

 

I think this as an angelfish, not a koi

The pattern is known as "koi."

Body shape, fin shape, forehead structure all say female to me.

 

What size is it?

 

I think this as an angelfish, not a koi

yes its called an orange koi angelfish

@Texas its probably about 2 to 3 inches maybe to 4 in height

I think this as an angelfish, not a koi

sorry thought that part was understood, yes its a orange koi angel

The pattern is known as "koi."

Body shape, fin shape, forehead structure all say female to me.

that's what a friend thinks, the male is supposed to have a bump/crown on the forehead correct?

 

angelfish cannot be sexed 100% accurately unless they pair up and spawn.

My male Koi angelfish looks like a female in every way, shape, and form. But he is the male half of my breeding pair! And I have two females that have a very distinct bump on the head. (both have laid eggs so I know they are female)

Sexing angelfish is a total guessing game.

 

And this one is too young to even attempt a guess.

 

Ok