greengoddess
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My 30gal tall has been cycled for five years, and has run at a consistent 7.0. Driftwood and Indian almond leaves have kept it the color and clarity of low-quality, weak tea. I recently decided I wanted to see the colors of the inhabitants better (because they're extra pretty!) After researching for safety, I decided to try Purigen about five weeks ago. Crystal clear, with no particulates after about 36 hours. Impressive! Downside: all that clarity = algae that's mostly clinging to that fake plant clump at top middle (I am going to take it out and clean it.) So, I decided to get a couple of nerites (have had them before - at one point in all seven of the tanks I had.) They croaked after two days (upon returning them is when my LFS alerted me to my low pH.) Dosed with Seachem's neutral regulator. Decided to get some mystery snails a week later. They're pretty, and I previously had one that lived for over a year. Not this go round: I just disposed of one of the four mystery snails this morning after QT'ing it for a few days to be sure it wasn't playing possum. I'm worried about the remaining three. One in particular ain't lookin' so hot (I'm watching it like a hawk bc of course I don't want a hidden dead snail mucking up the whole habitat.)
Since all this started, I test my pH weekly (including today,) and it keeps coming up low (I'm using two tests now to confirm.) So I add another dose of the neutral regulator. Adding the Purigen is the only thing that's changed this whole time (I did add a small cuttlebone (bottom right of pic) for the snails, but the pH drop had begun just prior to adding it.)
I have three questions:
1.) Is it the Purigen, even though it's not supposed to cause a change in pH?
2.) My fish are fine, and I know they can adapt more readily than snails; however, attempting to repeatedly alter the pH using chemicals is beginning to worry me as I'd hate to lose any of them. Does this mean if I use Purigen, I can't have snails?
3.) Is there something else I could use that results in the same water clarity? Would removing the Purigen from my HOB and replacing it with Poly-fil get me close?
4.) Okay, four questions: I could never find info on whether or not using Purigen to remove the *color* of tannins also removes the *benefits* of the tannins. Does anyone have a definitive answer?
Specs:
Inhabitants: Betta sorority of nine pretty ladies. Corydora that breed like rabbits, so I must be doing something right. After giving about a dozen to a friend a while back, it's held steady at 9-10 (cory eggs are snackable for at least one of the more recent occupants, which is fine by me.) Seven neon tetras. Three mystery snails.
1.) 30 gal tall
2.) cycled 5 years; 25-30% WC every three weeks, rarely any mulm because the corys. WCs/in-between water topoffs w/ Prime (come to think of it, using Prime vs tetra or api water conditioner *is* something recent. But certainly it's not the culprit...)
3.) Aquaclear 30 (I think) HOB, with bottom to top: coarse sponge, fine sponge, ceramic media, purigen
4.) Double sponge filter with ceramic media in the hoppers. I also keep a bag of extra media hanging beneath the output of the HOB for quick setup of QT/hospital, etc.
5.) heater/LED lighting
6.) black sand substrate & same rocks since day 1 (fake plants)
7.) driftwood that's been in there four years after mega scrub and lengthy soaking.
8.) Indian almond leaf because it's good for bettas. I keep one in there until it begins to tear apart, then I replace it.
9.) Parameters:



Since all this started, I test my pH weekly (including today,) and it keeps coming up low (I'm using two tests now to confirm.) So I add another dose of the neutral regulator. Adding the Purigen is the only thing that's changed this whole time (I did add a small cuttlebone (bottom right of pic) for the snails, but the pH drop had begun just prior to adding it.)
I have three questions:
1.) Is it the Purigen, even though it's not supposed to cause a change in pH?
2.) My fish are fine, and I know they can adapt more readily than snails; however, attempting to repeatedly alter the pH using chemicals is beginning to worry me as I'd hate to lose any of them. Does this mean if I use Purigen, I can't have snails?
3.) Is there something else I could use that results in the same water clarity? Would removing the Purigen from my HOB and replacing it with Poly-fil get me close?
4.) Okay, four questions: I could never find info on whether or not using Purigen to remove the *color* of tannins also removes the *benefits* of the tannins. Does anyone have a definitive answer?
Specs:
Inhabitants: Betta sorority of nine pretty ladies. Corydora that breed like rabbits, so I must be doing something right. After giving about a dozen to a friend a while back, it's held steady at 9-10 (cory eggs are snackable for at least one of the more recent occupants, which is fine by me.) Seven neon tetras. Three mystery snails.
1.) 30 gal tall
2.) cycled 5 years; 25-30% WC every three weeks, rarely any mulm because the corys. WCs/in-between water topoffs w/ Prime (come to think of it, using Prime vs tetra or api water conditioner *is* something recent. But certainly it's not the culprit...)
3.) Aquaclear 30 (I think) HOB, with bottom to top: coarse sponge, fine sponge, ceramic media, purigen
4.) Double sponge filter with ceramic media in the hoppers. I also keep a bag of extra media hanging beneath the output of the HOB for quick setup of QT/hospital, etc.
5.) heater/LED lighting
6.) black sand substrate & same rocks since day 1 (fake plants)
7.) driftwood that's been in there four years after mega scrub and lengthy soaking.
8.) Indian almond leaf because it's good for bettas. I keep one in there until it begins to tear apart, then I replace it.
9.) Parameters:
- pH - 6.0 (I've begun using pool/spa strips as an "easier" step one, then using API master test to confirm)
- Nitrite 0
- Total Ammonia 0 (brand new API drops)
- Free ammonia 0 (Seachem constant monitor seen at left of tank in enlarged pic. Edit: it got cropped)
- Nitrate ??? See pic. Historically, between 20-40. The drops from bottle #1 came out this same orange, which seems suspect. I'm beginning to think this kit has gone bad before its actual "use by," hence the separate pH strips, the new Ammonia test drops, and the constant free ammonia monitor. (According to the drops in my master test kit, everything in this tank should be dead, including the fake plants.)
- Per pool/spa strip, not sure if relevant: total hardness 250ppm; alkalinity 40ppm; pH "very low," as in below the strip's register.
- Also per pool/spa strip (also maybe not relevant) Our tap water tests at 7.0pH; hardness is neither low nor high; alkalinity is 120ppm (water source is the Memphis Sands aquifer.)

