Longfin Glo Danio??

Jeevanilla

is it possible to breed a longfin glo danio. For example, breed longfin zebra danios + pink or green glo danios. Would the fry be longfin glo danios? I’ve seen pics of red longfin danios, so is it possible??
 

Fanatic

I believe that there already is a variety of the GloFish with long fins.
 

Jeevanilla

You’re right!! However those are probably longfin glo TETRAS. They are beautiful but they’re a bit nippy. I want longfin glo DANIOS!

Thank youu for the reply tho!! Much appreciated Fanatic
 

Mcasella

Just wait for them to come in store. To breed glofish intentionally or for profit would go against the company's "rules", aka you'd likely get a cease and desist notice from them.
You would have to breed back to the red glo danio to produce any possible glo danios, the longfin is a dominant trait so it would be a 50% longfin, 50% shortfin, if you are lucky half of those might be glodanio.
 

Fanatic

You’re right!! However those are probably longfin glo TETRAS. They are beautiful but they’re a bit nippy. I want longfin glo DANIOS!

Thank youu for the reply tho!! Much appreciated Fanatic

I have seen them at my PetCo, longfin danios.
 

Thunder_o_b

Agree with Mcasella. Glow fish are patented.
 

DoubleDutch

Agree with Mcasella. Glow fish are patented.
A shame Mother Nature forgot to patent all her beautiful creatures.
 

Jeevanilla

I have seen them at my PetCo, longfin danios.
Long fin GLO danios?

Just wait for them to come in store. To breed glofish intentionally or for profit would go against the company's "rules", aka you'd likely get a cease and desist notice from them.
You would have to breed back to the red glo danio to produce any possible glo danios, the longfin is a dominant trait so it would be a 50% longfin, 50% shortfin, if you are lucky half of those might be glodanio.

Half would be longfin glo danios? Bring back red glo danio? What does that mean? I know breeding them and selling is against the company rules. I’ll let them spawn naturally

Agree with Mcasella. Glow fish are patented.
What does patent mean?

A shame Mother Nature forgot to patent all her beautiful creatures.
What does patent mean?
 

wrs2

“patent is an exclusive right granted for an invention, which is a product or a process that provides, in general, a new way of doing something, or offers a new technical solution to a problem. To get a patent, technical information about the invention must be disclosed to the public in a patentapplication.”
Source: Patents

So that means legally you can’t breed glo fish for profit. Whoever patented them has the exclusive right to do so!
 

Mcasella

Long fin GLO danios?



Half would be longfin glo danios? Bring back red glo danio? What does that mean? I know breeding them and selling is against the company rules. I’ll let them spawn naturally


What does patent mean?


What does patent mean?
Breed back to a red glo danio, how is that confusing (it means you have to take the spawn from a long fin danio and a red glo danio and breed it back to a red glo danio, preferably offspring that is long finned to result in a longfinned glo danio)? Spawning them naturally is intentionally breeding them, having the fish together in the "hopes" of taking and raising the offspring then breeding them again once they are grown is all intentional, which goes against the patent on the fish.
However if they already are producing glo danio (tetra, barbs, sharks, and not yet gone commercial angelfish) and long fins of the tetra, do you really think they do not have longfin danios in the making?
 

Jeevanilla

“patent is an exclusive right granted for an invention, which is a product or a process that provides, in general, a new way of doing something, or offers a new technical solution to a problem. To get a patent, technical information about the invention must be disclosed to the public in a patentapplication.”
Source: Patents

So that means legally you can’t breed glo fish for profit. Whoever patented them has the exclusive right to do so!

I never sell my fishes? They’re like my babies


Was it a Petco in California? In sac to be specific?

Breed back to a red glo danio, how is that confusing (it means you have to take the spawn from a long fin danio and a red glo danio and breed it back to a red glo danio, preferably offspring that is long finned to result in a longfinned glo danio)? Spawning them naturally is intentionally breeding them, having the fish together in the "hopes" of taking and raising the offspring then breeding them again once they are grown is all intentional, which goes against the patent on the fish.
However if they already are producing glo danio (tetra, barbs, sharks, and not yet gone commercial angelfish) and long fins of the tetra, do you really think they do not have longfin danios in the making?

I’ll just ask and find out when they are making the long fined glo danios then. Thank you


But if I took a long fin zebra danio + a green glo danio from Petco, are their fry going to be longfin glo danios? (yes or no) who has to be the mother and father
 

FlipFlopFishFlake

Another issue is that the company often sterilizes their glofish to prevent people from breeding them.
 

Mcasella

Another issue is that the company often sterilizes their glofish to prevent people from breeding them.
That is not actually true, the fish are intact, it is just something to spread to prevent breeding attempts.
I never sell my fishes? They’re like my babies



Was it a Petco in California? In sac to be specific?



I’ll just ask and find out when they are making the long fined glo danios then. Thank you


But if I took a long fin zebra danio + a green glo danio from Petco, are their fry going to be longfin glo danios? (yes or no) who has to be the mother and father
If both parents do not have the glofish DNA to pass on I am going to treat it like a recessive trait (it has been proven that glofish to glofish produces fish just like the parents) and go with no. Which is why you would have to breed back to a glofish danio to produce glofish danio.
If you wish to keep pushing to try and go around the patent, expect a cease and desist letter if you try and continue breeding them. The patent allows them to go after people that intentionally breed these fish.
 

FlipFlopFishFlake

That is not actually true, the fish are intact, it is just something to spread to prevent breeding attempts.

If both parents do not have the glofish DNA to pass on I am going to treat it like a recessive trait (it has been proven that glofish to glofish produces fish just like the parents) and go with no. Which is why you would have to breed back to a glofish danio to produce glofish danio.
If you wish to keep pushing to try and go around the patent, expect a cease and desist letter if you try and continue breeding them. The patent allows them to go after people that intentionally breed these fish.
My apologies, I had read that around 99% were sterilized. Upon further research it seems that glofish do breed and create fertile offspring with each other and other danios.
 

Mcasella

My apologies, I had read that around 99% were sterilized. Upon further research it seems that glofish do breed and create fertile offspring with each other and other danios.
It would be too expensive to have sterile and nonsterile glofish for the company that produces them, it doesn't make sense because they need to continue their own breeding so why make them sterile? So instead they spread the rumor that they are sterile and pat themselves on the back.
 

Thunder_o_b

If memory serves glow fish were developed from splicing jellyfish genes with fish genes. A fairly costly process. so I understand the patent. They do the same thing in patents for roses (flowers)
 

Mcasella

If memory serves glow fish were developed from splicing jellyfish genes with fish genes. A fairly costly process. so I understand the patent. They do the same thing in patents for roses (flowers)
Jellyfish, corals, and something else now I believe, i'd have to look at the wiki.
 

Pescado_Verde

I have a handful of these in the red color. There's at least one gravid female in the bunch though I don't know if I'll get any fry out of them but it sure would be nice. I've got room for more and I like having colorful fish.
 

Dch48

That is not actually true, the fish are intact, it is just something to spread to prevent breeding attempts.

If both parents do not have the glofish DNA to pass on I am going to treat it like a recessive trait (it has been proven that glofish to glofish produces fish just like the parents) and go with no. Which is why you would have to breed back to a glofish danio to produce glofish danio.
If you wish to keep pushing to try and go around the patent, expect a cease and desist letter if you try and continue breeding them. The patent allows them to go after people that intentionally breed these fish.
How would they know if you are breeding them unless you try to sell them?
 

Pescado_Verde

Glofish as a "thing" won't last forever and neither do patents. Some of the patents, in fact probably the most important one - the one for creating transgenic fish - is going to expire soon. Of course a person couldn't sell them as GloFish, that's trademarked and selling them without being licensed would be infringement. But putting an ad on Craigslist for "bright red small fish" probably wouldn't draw too much attention. Still though, you probably wouldn't want to draw any attention to yourself. Cease and desist letters don't mean much in the grand scheme of things though. Any two-bit lawyer can crank one out for a few dollars. And it would be on GloFish LLC to file against a person. Meaning $$$ spent on lawyers. This is just my opinion and I did not sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night but I think that within a few years you will see all sorts of copycat fish with names like BrightFish etc... as patents expire and if there is enough economic incentive someone will produce competition. I don't know, if I get some baby red fish out of this I might test the waters. I got nothing to lose.
 

Mcasella

How would they know if you are breeding them unless you try to sell them?
As long as you aren't selling they won't know (except for it being posted here as the only record of an attempt, but they wouldn't go after just an attempt lol).
 

Pescado_Verde

I snapped a picture of a couple of these demon spawn hellfish. They look innocent enough but they're probably plotting world domination.

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Tsin21

I have a longfin cosmic blue glofish danio, got it from a lfs in DubaI mixed with other cosmic blues but with short fins. It spawned with my normal danios and I'm pretty sure that he's the father since the fry ended up with longfins.

Here's the father:
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Here's the progeny:
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david1978

In the aquarium trade glofish may or may not last but they werent designed to be aquarium fish. This is a side gig for them. They were designed as fish to be a warning signal for poor water quality in industrial applications. When water quality goes down so does their color making them a constant water tester.
 

tocandesu

In the aquarium trade glofish may or may not last but they werent designed to be aquarium fish. This is a side gig for them. They were designed as fish to be a warning signal for poor water quality in industrial applications. When water quality goes down so does their color making them a constant water tester.
That makes me wonder, do their indicating properties work in the variables of the home aquaria? Meaning, could their coloring detect changes in water quality in the .25-.5ppm range(Ammonia and Nitrite).

It would be pretty cool if you could catch small spikes in Ammonia and Nitrite using the color of these fish alone, before fish actually start dying. Actual living test kits.
 

david1978

I never had them in poor water but in theory it shouldn't make a difference in the size of container they are in. So they should work the same way in our tanks unless they tweeked something a little so if they are kept in less then ideal conditions they would keep their color.
 

tocandesu

I never had them in poor water but in theory it shouldn't make a difference in the size of container they are in. So they should work the same way in our tanks unless they tweeked something a little so if they are kept in less then ideal conditions they would keep their color.
I would assume they wouldn't have tweaked them. Though my question was whether the color changing properties were sensitive enough to detect spikes in ammonia and nitrite levels below 1ppm.
 

david1978

I couldn't come up with what pollutants specifically that they change for. I did find they are working on fish now that only fluoresce in the present of pollutants to ward off preditation.
 

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