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So as not to fill another fish related thread with photography mombo jumbo; I thought it would be a good idea to start this thread for my fish friends here; to talk about and share our journey with photography. Pescado_Verde
 

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Will be watching with interest!
 

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I shot film when I was a teen in the 70's and used my dad's WWII era Yashica-Mat twins lens reflex camera. It took great pictures but was a pain partly because it weighed about 6 pounds and partly because everything in the viewfinder was reversed. If something in the viewfinder was moving left to right it was actually moving right to left so you had to move the opposite direction to follow whatever you were shooting. Like this one here...



That's the shutter button there on the bottom right front corner of the camera. My first camera that wasn't dad's was a Polaroid Swinger! Took little instant developing B&W photos that were about 21/2" x 11/2".

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And my first REAL camera was a Pentax 100. I bought it from a buddies brother in law, I think I paid $100 for it in 1977.



And then I discovered cars, girls and liquor and forgot about photography for a long, long time!
 

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My passion too...I started as a teen in the 70's as well, shooting my Dad's Zeiss Icon. Considering toying with film again after purchasing a vintage Canon EOS3 with it's clairvoyant "mind controlled" auto focus technology on a whim! After finally getting used to the Canon digital button layout, I'll probably just confuse my brain trying to reteach myself the SLR button placement, currently shooting Canon 7D Mark II.
I don't want anymore gear, just want to learn what I have "really good"..... or course if anyone offered me a fast f1.2 lens for free, I wouldn't turn it down no how! Dream on..

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Funny story about my dad's Yashica - He actually had a Leica that he had "liberated" from Germany in WWII but thought it was too complicated so he TRADED it to another GI for the Yashica. Face. Palm.

My gear right now consists of a Nikon D3500 that I bought in March when I decided to give photography a shot again, the 2 kit lenses that come with it (18-55 and 70-300) and two prime lenses that I've purchased separately since. One is a 35mm f1.8 and the other an 85mm f1.8, both are Nikon glass. I've put the kit lenses back on the shelf and am trying to use just the 2 prime lenses.

Of course with digital photography comes post processing. I've dipped my toe in that pool using Nikon's own Capture NX-D but at some point will need to make the move to a full blown editing software. I am going to hate that but it is a necessary evil I guess.

Two photo ops this weekend locally are a wood turners symposium and drag boat races. Talk about opposite ends of the spectrum!

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My passion too...I started as a teen in the 70's as well, shooting my Dad's Zeiss Icon. Considering toying with film again after purchasing a vintage Canon EOS3 with it's clairvoyant "mind controlled" auto focus technology on a whim! After finally getting used to the Canon digital button layout, I'll probably just confuse my brain trying to reteach myself the SLR button placement, currently shooting Canon 7D Mark II.
I don't want anymore gear, just want to learn what I have "really good"..... or course if anyone offered me a fast f1.2 lens for free, I wouldn't turn it down no how! Dream on..

eagle.jpg
My current camera is pretty basic as far as digital cameras go but I've looked at upgrading it and holy cow, the buttons on the higher end models!! It's ridiculous. There's a button for EVERYTHING. My entry level camera has many of the same features that they have but everything is accessed thru the screen and menus. All of those buttons scare me, lol. I've just now got my brain and muscle memory trained on the body that I have, I can't imagine trying to learn a new camera.
 

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I'm tagging along. I've gotten some really good shots with no camera at all (iPhones of various generations) which I edited with free software. I feel like if I had learned something about f-stop and aperture and film speed and how they all worked together...I would have been unstoppable.... my husband offered to pay for photography lessons. I should have taken him up on it.
Sorry if this wasn't intended to be a show-off thread...
 

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Sounds like a fun thread. I shoot mainly digital with an SLR, also my phone and sometimes the odd roll of film here and there.
 

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Magicpenny75 said:
I'm tagging along. I've gotten some really good shots with no camera at all (iPhones of various generations) which I edited with free software. I feel like if I had learned something about f-stop and aperture and film speed and how they all worked together...I would have been unstoppable.... my husband offered to pay for photography lessons. I should have taken him up on it.
Sorry if this wasn't intended to be a show-off thread...
Magicpenny75 Great compositions!... you have to give Apple credit as the camera's in their cell phones are superb but cost more than an entry level DSLR now .. I'm also trying to master the camera on dear husband's Ipad Pro.
 
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In my teen years I was shooting my dads canon t100 35mm slr. Strutting around Disney World like a world class photographer. I’m currently shooting the Nikon D3500 as well with just the kit lenses. I’m really looking at getting the Nikkor 50mm f/1.8g soon.
Magicpenny75 said:
I'm tagging along. I've gotten some really good shots with no camera at all (iPhones of various generations) which I edited with free software. I feel like if I had learned something about f-stop and aperture and film speed and how they all worked together...I would have been unstoppable.... my husband offered to pay for photography lessons. I should have taken him up on it.
Sorry if this wasn't intended to be a show-off thread...
This is definitely intended as a show off thread; until it gets deleted for taking up all the server space! I really like the lighthouse picture; good job on that one!
 

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SaltyPhone said:
In my teen years I was shooting my dads canon t100 35mm slr. Strutting around Disney World like a world class photographer. I’m currently shooting the Nikon D3500 as well with just the kit lenses. I’m really looking at getting the Nikkor 55mm f/1.8g soon.
This is definitely intended as a show off thread; until it gets deleted for taking up all the server space! I really like the lighthouse picture; good job on that one!
I find my kit lens 18-55mm gives the most wonderful bokeh backgrounds under the right circumstances. I use it more often than my L lenses now. My only prime is a older Canon Nifty Fifty 1.8mm, it's really good in low light and didn't break the bank. I'm favouring the lighter lenses these days over packing a telephoto. SaltyPhone I know you will enjoy yours if you get one!

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Amazing pics! I'm tagging Thunder_o_b . Haven't seen some of his amazing photos in a while and i'm sure this is right up his alley!!
 
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Elkwatcher that's a very nice shot was that with the 50 or 18-55? I'm having trouble nailing my exposure; I'm getting pretty good with my focus and composition. Both pics here are the uneditied jpeg. Ive been working with LR on raw files for about a month and trying to get the hang of that has me almost bald now
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Phones today have pretty amazing cameras built in but there's no substitute for a dedicated camera, whether it's mirrorless, DSLR or film. Phone cams are getting better and better but to get the shallow depth of field and that sweet bokey you're going to need some separation between the lens and the sensor and a flat phone just can't provide that. Yet. I imagine that there are software tricks that can be employed to simulate the effect and you'll see those on high end phones some day.

My camera is of the crop sensor variety which affects the FoV by a factor of 1.5 as well as the DoF/aperture relationship by that same factor. My f1.8 will have the DoF of a f2.7 and a 50mm lens will give an as though it were a 75mm on a full frame. Still quite usable but not the same as a full frame. It does give me more "reach" though with the telephoto lenses which I kind of like.

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Elkwatcher that's a very nice shot was that with the 50 or 18-55? I'm having trouble nailing my exposure; I'm getting pretty good with my focus and composition. Both pics here are the uneditied jpeg. Ive been working with LR on raw files for about a month and trying to get the hang of that has me almost bald now
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Shooting in full sun is brutal. It's doable for wide panoramas and really tight closeups but that's about it, in my opinion. I either get blown out backgrounds or subjects that are underexposed. There's just no happy middle ground.

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I find my kit lens 18-55mm gives the most wonderful bokeh backgrounds under the right circumstances. I use it more often than my L lenses now. My only prime is a older Canon Nifty Fifty 1.8mm, it's really good in low light and didn't break the bank. I'm favouring the lighter lenses these days over packing a telephoto. SaltyPhone I know you will enjoy yours if you get one!

yellow rose long.jpg
I know a guy who shoots for a living and he just bought one of the 18-55mm AF-P lenses, refurbished, for $69. He's using it on a full frame camera so he gets the full 18mm and says it's one of the sharpest lenses he has for that focal length.

SaltyPhone , your LR experience, how has that been? I can't imagine teaching myself something like that, are you using a tutorial?
 

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SaltyPhone said:
Elkwatcher that's a very nice shot was that with the 50 or 18-55? I'm having trouble nailing my exposure; I'm getting pretty good with my focus and composition. Both pics here are the uneditied jpeg. Ive been working with LR on raw files for about a month and trying to get the hang of that has me almost bald now
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Beautiful s the exposure on both well done. Your flowering bush has a real delicacy about it and the crosses are powerful with the pov you chose to shoot at. I shoot in manual now using the built in light meter to get it right and use exposure compensation for mood. Everything is an experiment for me as I am self taught just from reading. You can do some incredible edits working with raw files, you'll soon have it under your belt! LR is my go to, with Affinity Photo being second, it is almost a Photoshop clone. I try to get it right in camera first though.

The hardest part for me now is my eyesight is changing and I am bothered with an opaque floater that makes focusing difficult. I rely on back button focus ( assigning a separate button instead of using the shutter button ) And a new pair of glasses probably wouldn't hurt either...

The rose is shot with 18-55mm kit.

pescado Verde That's a good deal! I use crop sensor and full frame Canon's, and the kit lenses are only compatible with the 7DII crop sensor being EFS which is a drag. Sometimes I forget and grab the wrong lens when I'm going out and the whole day goes down the tubes. I used to pack everything but found most of it was never used, so now challenge myself to shoot entirely with one lens, unless I'm going somewhere with a purpose that needs two.

I hope Thunder_o_b will find the thread too kallililly1973
 

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Elkwatcher said:
Beautiful s the exposure on both well done. Your flowering bush has a real delicacy about it and the crosses are powerful with the pov you chose to shoot at. I shoot in manual now using the built in light meter to get it right and use exposure compensation for mood. Everything is an experiment for me as I am self taught just from reading. You can do some incredible edits working with raw files, you'll soon have it under your belt! LR is my go to, with Affinity Photo being second, it is almost a Photoshop clone. I try to get it right in camera first though.

The hardest part for me now is my eyesight is changing and I am bothered with an opaque floater that makes focusing difficult. I rely on back button focus ( assigning a separate button instead of using the shutter button ) And a new pair of glasses probably wouldn't hurt either...

The rose is shot with 18-55mm kit.

pescado Verde That's a good deal! I use crop sensor and full frame Canon's, and the kit lenses are only compatible with the 7DII crop sensor being EFS which is a drag. Sometimes I forget and grab the wrong lens when I'm going out and the whole day goes down the tubes. I used to pack everything but found most of it was never used, so now challenge myself to shoot entirely with one lens, unless I'm going somewhere with a purpose that needs two.

I hope Thunder_o_b will find the thread too kallililly1973
One thing I do like about the Nikon is that they use the F mount across just about every camera body since forever. Well, they have a "micro" 4:3 but that's something completely different, the lenses are tiny, lol. Nikon makes lenses for the DX size sensor but they still work on the FX bodies but the camera will recognize them and produce a cropped . But the lenses still work.
I went to shoot a volleyball scrimmage this past weekend and took just one lens. Same with a horse show last week. I may take 2 lenses if I go to the drag boat races this weekend but I would prefer to get by with just the 85mm. It gives the same FoV as a 127mm which for me makes it pretty useful for a lot of stuff. Might take the 70-300, it's pretty compact. Slow, f6.3 at 300mm, but outdoors should be fine. I think if I buy one more lens, probably a f2.8 200mm, I'll be done with the GAS for awhile.

Speaking of eyesight, I absolutely have to depend on the autofocus because of my poor vision. Being a blind photographer is....tricky.

And about back button, I switched as soon as I found out about it. Anyone who's older like myself and ever had a camera pre-digital/autofocus days was used to the focus being a separate operation from the shutter release anyway so it's much more natural for me than having it in the shutter release button.

How did you approach/learn the post processing aspect of digital?
 

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Pescado_Verde said:
One thing I do like about the Nikon is that they use the F mount across just about every camera body since forever. Well, they have a "micro" 4:3 but that's something completely different, the lenses are tiny, lol. Nikon makes lenses for the DX size sensor but they still work on the FX bodies but the camera will recognize them and produce a cropped . But the lenses still work.
I went to shoot a volleyball scrimmage this past weekend and took just one lens. Same with a horse show last week. I may take 2 lenses if I go to the drag boat races this weekend but I would prefer to get by with just the 85mm. It gives the same FoV as a 127mm which for me makes it pretty useful for a lot of stuff. Might take the 70-300, it's pretty compact. Slow, f6.3 at 300mm, but outdoors should be fine. I think if I buy one more lens, probably a f2.8 200mm, I'll be done with the GAS for awhile.

Speaking of eyesight, I absolutely have to depend on the autofocus because of my poor vision. Being a blind photographer is....tricky.

And about back button, I switched as soon as I found out about it. Anyone who's older like myself and ever had a camera pre-digital/autofocus days was used to the focus being a separate operation from the shutter release anyway so it's much more natural for me than having it in the shutter release button.

How did you approach/learn the post processing aspect of digital?
I use the Digital Photography School link You searched for lightroom - Digital Photography School as a resource, also bought Scott Kelby's book on LR and watch Youtube's. I've edited for a few years in free Nik software which is excellent. The worst part of LR for me is managing the files, as if anything is moved outside of the program it doesn't know where the s are. Now I'm getting smart and naming the s... try and find something you've lost that is a numbered file. I like to do creative editing... Still trying to learn layers to make composites.. one of the easiest photo editors I've trialed is Photoshop Elements and it hasn't the cost of Photoshop. Yes, I'm an editor junky.


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I shot and developed black & white for a long time when I was young and digital was exotic. Nikon F-1 and F-4 bodies mostly, but I did have a Cannon AE-1 for a while back in the late 80s. That one was stolen, and I lost a huge amount of film with pictures of an entire western pacific cruise on an aircraft carrier. I had s of the Bataan trail and gun emplacements on Corregidor. All kinds of strange stuff in Thailand, "Crossing Over" ceremonies where wiggly pollywogs become Trusty Shellbacks, shots from the top of Mt. Fuji. The Iranian coast guard as they "escorted" us through the Straights of Hormuz. I'd give my right arm to get that film back.

Anyway, now I shoot a Nikon DX (D-3100) digital and am looking to get a full frame body, as that is where all the good lenses are. I just bought a couple of Yongnuo lenses (35mm prime and 50mm prime) and have been having some good luck with those. I also have a Yongnuo speed light, but it doesn't get much use.

Anyway, I like taking pictures.
 

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SaltyPhone said:
In my teen years I was shooting my dads canon t100 35mm slr. Strutting around Disney World like a world class photographer. I’m currently shooting the Nikon D3500 as well with just the kit lenses. I’m really looking at getting the Nikkor 50mm f/1.8g soon.
This is definitely intended as a show off thread; until it gets deleted for taking up all the server space! I really like the lighthouse picture; good job on that one!
Thank you. That's Montauk Lighthouse on the end of Long Island. You might have seen Haystack Rock before. Microsoft uses a photo of it for one of the default backgrounds for Windows. It was 35 degrees on the beach that day and the snow was just melting from the edges of the beach when we got there, and the ocean was steaming. The shrimp was in my aquarium, but I liked the colors.
I have a Nikkon D80 with a 200mm portrait lens. That was it for a while and I got some cool photos with it. Then we got a 35-80mm auto lens and I use that mostly now.
 

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Elkwatcher said:
I use the Digital Photography School link You searched for lightroom - Digital Photography School as a resource, also bought Scott Kelby's book on LR and watch Youtube's. I've edited for a few years in free Nik software which is excellent. The worst part of LR for me is managing the files, as if anything is moved outside of the program it doesn't know where the s are. Now I'm getting smart and naming the s... try and find something you've lost that is a numbered file. I like to do creative editing... Still trying to learn layers to make composites.. one of the easiest photo editors I've trialed is Photoshop Elements and it hasn't the cost of Photoshop. Yes, I'm an editor junky.


Greenhouse Glass colored Photomatix.jpg


IMG_7181.jpg


Leaf 1.jpg




IMG_5654.jpg


Old Truck needs fix copy.jpg
I post on another forum and there is a photography discussion thread there also so when I started back into this I posted there and heard about post processing and how powerful it can be with digital s. I was not yet ready to get LR or another subscription product but I got curious and found Nikon's Capture NX-D which obviously is designed to read Nikon's RAW files perfectly. I've tinkered with it a bit but that's about it.

As for file management, I'm aware of the need for some organization in that area and brought it up on that other forum. Nobody responded, lol. I guess they didn't want to admit that their system wasn't perfect.

I've had to manage databases at a job I had years ago so I have a little bit of an idea of structure but right now I discard most of my s anyway after reviewing and playing with a few in NX-D. I save a couple as JPEG but that's about it.

Thanks for the reply, I may revisit this topic to pick your brains.
 
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Pescado_Verde said:
SaltyPhone , your LR experience, how has that been? I can't imagine teaching myself something like that, are you using a tutorial?
No tutorial I have just been turning knobs and shifting sliders. Not getting fantastic results yet but that’s the whole fun I think.
 
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