Killifish eggs

fluffy_angel
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my daughter Olivia has just received 10 killifish eggs so if anyone has any tips or advice for us we would be very grateful
thanks
Chelle & Olivia
 
Butterfly
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Don't know much about Killifish, but Dino will check in this evening and he might
Carol
 
fluffy_angel
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
I have just been to feed the fish and one of our killifish eggs has hatched, this is our first fry so fingers crossed that he'll survive & hopefully some more will hatch soon (we have 9 more)
 
Butterfly
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Are there anymore fish in with them? If so you might want to separate them so the Killi's won't become a snack. do you know what kind of killifish they are?

Carol
 
fluffy_angel
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hI carol
they are Aph.GardnerI Gold killifish.
we have 5 in a breeding net in my tank and 5 in a little plastic pot with water from my tank and that is kept on top of the tank under the light and it is one of them that hatched. yesterday I got some liquifry 1 for egg layers and added some to the water (it said to add as soon as the eggs are laid) and the next time I checked he was swimming round.
after I posted my last message I checked on them and he wasn't moving so we thought we'd lost him but when I looked later he was fine.
my friend also has 10 in a guppy breeding box but no fry yet.
apparently they could take up to 3 weeks to hatch due to a nature survival thing called diapause that arrests their development, prevents them hatching all at once into a pond that dries out killing all of them.
I am waiting for some brine shrimp egg mix and I'm going to try to hatch the eggs for them.
he looks so funny, he is our first fry and I've never seen newly hatched/born fry, his eyes are so big.
I'm having problems with the breeding net, when I feed the fish some of the food gets stuck to the outside of the net and I need to find a way to clean it without killing the eggs or fry (when we get some in there), any advice?

chelle
 
Butterfly
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Liquify is made from egg yolks and will foul the water very quickly. so you need to do water changes in order to keep the water clean for your babies HikarI first bites are excellent for fry. It is a very small grain powder. You wet the end of your finger, dip in first bites and the swirl in the water. but what ever you use the water has to be changed fairly frequently. Hope that helps.
Carol
 
fluffy_angel
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our 2nd egg hatched last night & another 1 tried but I think it's died, it's an egg with a tail & has been like that since yesterday tea time.
 
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Butterfly
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Is the little tail wiggling? That's how Angel fish hatch(tails first).
Carol
 
fluffy_angel
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  • #9
his tail hasn't moved ant he has been like it for 2 days, left him in the water just incase
 
Sammyboi1993
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Hi,
I'm Thinking of buying 30 killifish eggs from a friend of mine, and I was woundering if anyone had any advise on how to hatch them.

Iv never done anything like this befor so any advise will be greatly appriciated.

Thanks Sam
 
Aquarist
  • #11
Hello Sam,

Hopefully you'll receive some helpful tips today.

Good luck if you decide to get the Killifish eggs!

Ken
 
LyndaB
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Killifish don't seem to be big on this forum. If you're still interested in doing your project, please visit this site. It will explain all you need to know.
 
Karo
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Hello everyone,
I'm looking for som killifish eggs,if anybody can help me to buy,
IL be mach thankfool.
Ch.volcanum mbongi,Ch. bitaeniatum, Blue Gularis.

thanks.
 
Deltrunner
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I've hatched killifish eggs before. I put them in a chlorine free water and just waited for them to hatch. I fed the fry baby brine shrimp ....
 
Live Love Aquatic Life
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Killifish are one of my favorite species of freshwater fish (maybe they are my favorite... I won't lie). I've always wanted them, but could never find them, so I really closed myself off from the option of getting them.

Recently somebody told me about purchasing Killifish eggs online for much lower prices than getting them live... and I'm definitely interested.

Key word is interested though, because I don't know if it would be worth it or not to do this and alter my stocking plan. My questions are:

1. Is it expensive to maintain Killifish fry and keep them alive in the egg?

2. Is it hard to do this?

3. Is it time-consuming?

4. Is there a high survival rate?

5. I've heard that a lot of these things are scams?

6. What should I get to take care of them? I saw this kit online and wondered what any thoughts were:

Sorry for so many questions, I just want to get it right. Hope you don't mind!

Ugh, something happened in the format. Here's the link: I apologize for the duplication.

I guess I can't send links
 

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IcedColdMine
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Killifish are one of my favorite species of freshwater fish (maybe they are my favorite... I won't lie). I've always wanted them, but could never find them, so I really closed myself off from the option of getting them.

Recently somebody told me about purchasing Killifish eggs online for much lower prices than getting them live... and I'm definitely interested.

Key word is interested though, because I don't know if it would be worth it or not to do this and alter my stocking plan. My questions are:

1. Is it expensive to maintain Killifish fry and keep them alive in the egg?

2. Is it hard to do this?

3. Is it time-consuming?

4. Is there a high survival rate?

5. I've heard that a lot of these things are scams?

6. What should I get to take care of them? I saw this kit online and wondered what any thoughts were:

Sorry for so many questions, I just want to get it right. Hope you don't mind!

Ugh, something happened in the format. Here's the link: I apologize for the duplication.
Are those even allowed???? I know there was ALOT of controversy around the "Sea Monkeys" But this takes it to a whole new level lol.

Anyways are these annual killifish or not?
 
Mushishi
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Annuals are bought via eggs online. Non-annuals have to be bought live.

aka.org will be filled with boundless info. check it out! (they also sell pairs of breeding annuals!)
 
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Live Love Aquatic Life
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aka.org will be filled with boundless info. check it out! (they also sell pairs of breeding annuals!)

I've read through their site and it seems like it wouldn't be too difficult with the right steps.... I have one question though.

Where should I keep the eggs/fry? I don't have any other cycled tanks for them, so should I just get one of those HOB Breeding Boxes or Nurseries and put it in my cycled Aquarium? I'll probably add some peat moss to the bottom and once they hatch feed them vinegar eels... unless it isn't agreed upon by the rest of the community that I should get these eggs.
 
Mushishi
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Also the hob breeding net isn't a bad idea. However a sponge filter is very inexpensive and a small 5-10 gallon tank is pretty cheap as well. You can take some filter media from your already cycled tank, or even some substrate in a sack, and introduce it to the new tank to get an instant cycle, or close to instant anyhow lol. But if you don't hatch ALL 30+ eggs the HOB breeding net will be fine and it should be easier to feed them in that too.
 
NightShade
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I don't have any information to add, but I'd love to see the killi's when u get them! I've thought about getting eggs myself before, but had the same concerns that you mentioned at the beginning of this thread!

You could also get an hob refugium Finnex makes one, I just got it, & it holds almost a gallon, it comes with a water pump, but also has a connection for an airline - so water is lifted from the aquarium, into the refugium by air bubbles... which may be better for fry... it's got dividers too.
 
Live Love Aquatic Life
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I don't have any information to add, but I'd love to see the killi's when u get them! I've thought about getting eggs myself before, but had the same concerns that you mentioned at the beginning of this thread!

You could also get an hob refugium Finnex makes one, I just got it, & it holds almost a gallon, it comes with a water pump, but also has a connection for an airline - so water is lifted from the aquarium, into the refugium by air bubbles... which may be better for fry... it's got dividers too.

I will definitely show pictures if I do get them. Not official yet but it's very likely that once everything is cycled that I will! Eek... I'm excited too.
 
chromedome52
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Just buy some adult Killifish online, they are shipped all the time. Check Aquabid, bigger variety there than on Ewwbay.

There are people who sell non-annual eggs, they don't have to be annuals though their eggs have a bigger window of being able to ship. Non-annuals still take two or three weeks to hatch. The eggs are fairly tough, and ship easily. Problems with buying eggs are: A. Hatching eggs. Not always as simple as put them in water and watch. B. raising fry. If you haven't raised any small egg layer fry before, this is not a good way to start learning. C. quite often batches of fry will turn out to be mostly or even all one sex. At this point you will have spent months raising up fish only to find that you can't breed them without both sexes.

A final note about the "kit" you have listed there. They are very expensive when compared to buying eggs from a breeder. Most breeders who sell eggs will gladly give you helpful information on how to hatch and raise them. Some of them lie about what species you are getting.
 
Live Love Aquatic Life
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Just buy some adult Killifish online, they are shipped all the time. Check Aquabid, bigger variety there than on Ewwbay.

There are people who sell non-annual eggs, they don't have to be annuals though their eggs have a bigger window of being able to ship. Non-annuals still take two or three weeks to hatch. The eggs are fairly tough, and ship easily. Problems with buying eggs are: A. Hatching eggs. Not always as simple as put them in water and watch. B. raising fry. If you haven't raised any small egg layer fry before, this is not a good way to start learning. C. quite often batches of fry will turn out to be mostly or even all one sex. At this point you will have spent months raising up fish only to find that you can't breed them without both sexes.

A final note about the "kit" you have listed there. They are very expensive when compared to buying eggs from a breeder. Most breeders who sell eggs will gladly give you helpful information on how to hatch and raise them. Some of them lie about what species you are getting.

I looked on Aquabid and nothing really caught my eye :/ I will keep looking and checking, but the species I'm most interested in is Nothobranchius Rachovii.

I'm planning on doing a lot more research before this, but might I ask, what is a good fish to start with? Should I try harvesting some of my guppy fry and raising them to see if I think I could take a step up?

As for where I'd get the eggs, I found a website that seems pretty reputable at first sight, but I'm not really sure if that's true because well... It's called Killipark.com. They're selling 50 Nothobranchius RachoviI eggs for $14, including fairy shrimp eggs... free shipping.

Seems kinda cheap, but idk.
 
TexasDomer
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Guppy fry are super easy to raise, and really nothing like the killis. So you can do it, but it won't help you too much with experience.
 
Live Love Aquatic Life
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Guppy fry are super easy to raise, and really nothing like the killis. So you can do it, but it won't help you too much with experience.

Ah, okay. How hard is Killifish raising on a scale of, say, 1-10? 10 being extremely difficult to raise and a high death rate and 1 being impossible to kill.

If you don't have a definite answer, that's alright. I'll figure something out, Killifish or not.
 
IcedColdMine
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I looked on Aquabid and nothing really caught my eye :/ I will keep looking and checking, but the species I'm most interested in is Nothobranchius Rachovii.

I'm planning on doing a lot more research before this, but might I ask, what is a good fish to start with? Should I try harvesting some of my guppy fry and raising them to see if I think I could take a step up?

As for where I'd get the eggs, I found a website that seems pretty reputable at first sight, but I'm not really sure if that's true because well... It's called Killipark.com. They're selling 50 Nothobranchius RachoviI eggs for $14, including fairy shrimp eggs... free shipping.

Seems kinda cheap, but idk.
Are these eggs annual or live their whole lifespan?
 
Live Love Aquatic Life
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Are these eggs annual or live their whole lifespan?

I can't find that info on the site, probably annual then.
 
TexasDomer
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Both annual and non-annuals live their whole lifespan... The lifespan of annuals is under one year, while the non-annuals over one year.

I can't give you a specific number, but based on Chromedome's helpful explanation above, they're not easy.
 
NavigatorBlack
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The kit looks like a rip off. Way more expensive than you need to spend.

I buy both annual and non annual killies as eggs.

Annuals, like the Nothobranchius you are considering, can incubate from 6 weeks to months, depending on the species. Non annuals (longer lived fish like Aphyosemions, my faves) incubate from 14-21 days - plenty of time for mailing.

I only order or mail eggs in the Spring and early fall, when nights are above 10c. You are very close to the zone when it is almost a guaranteed failure. The eggs are temperature sensitive. I'm 6 hours north of you, so maybe your season is extended. I ordered my eggs for this year 3 weeks ago, and there will be more more til it warms up again.

N rachoviI isn't the easiest Notho. I would would look for N guentherI to begin with annuals - I have always have found it easy enough. You build up to the tougher ones as you gain experience, as with everything.

I have a friend who wanted killies after seeing pictures of them. he had never kept another fish of any sort. He set up for them, found fish (at my place - that's how we met), and is now (15 years later) breeding killies and really enjoying them. He has still never bothered with any other type of fish. He lives in a rural area far from pet stores, but he gets rare fish via mailed eggs, and he trades a lot with breeders in Europe.
 
Mushishi
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Are there any other sources for non-annual killies inside the US? I mentioned non-annuals because the market is just so much bigger and, like mentioned above, their window for shipping is huge. I personally like non-annuals better because of being able to breed them yourself... without waiting half a year lol. However I think almost ALL killies are just beautiful fish.
 
NavigatorBlack
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There is a killifish club in Wisconsin, and they would go out of their way to help a new keeper.

I don't keep annuals - I dislike the incubation times and such. Plus I like the look and lifestyle of plant spawning, 3 year killies. The club is the Wisconsin Area Killifish Organization Welcome to Wisconsin Area Killifish Org. Homepage
 
Mushishi
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There is a killifish club in Wisconsin, and they would go out of their way to help a new keeper.

I don't keep annuals - I dislike the incubation times and such. Plus I like the look and lifestyle of plant spawning, 3 year killies. The club is the Wisconsin Area Killifish Organization Welcome to Wisconsin Area Killifish Org. Homepage
They actually have a show this month! The 28th and the 29th in Milwaukee. I was looking through their info and they even have a proxy bid system in place for people who can't make it but would still like to participate in the auction! ITS SO COOOOOOOL!!!
 
Live Love Aquatic Life
  • #34
There is a killifish club in Wisconsin, and they would go out of their way to help a new keeper.

I don't keep annuals - I dislike the incubation times and such. Plus I like the look and lifestyle of plant spawning, 3 year killies. The club is the Wisconsin Area Killifish Organization Welcome to Wisconsin Area Killifish Org. Homepage

Ooooh. I might have to see if I can get my hands on some N. Guentheri. I'm not in the Winconsin area, but maybe I can do the whole bidding thing. How can I contact them?
 
chromedome52
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The WAKO show is a great one. MushishI , attend if you can, or at least go on Saturday when they have box sales. You will find that they are always welcoming to new people, mostly because a lot of the Killifish guys are getting so old now. ldman: I was thinking about trying to run up there, but don't quite have the money for gas to go around the lake. For many years it was a don't miss event for me, but I've not made it for a few years now, as my interest in Killies waned.
 
Mushishi
  • #37
The WAKO show is a great one. MushishI , attend if you can, or at least go on Saturday when they have box sales. You will find that they are always welcoming to new people, mostly because a lot of the Killifish guys are getting so old now. ldman: I was thinking about trying to run up there, but don't quite have the money for gas to go around the lake. For many years it was a don't miss event for me, but I've not made it for a few years now, as my interest in Killies waned.
I'm located here in Madison so it will definitely be possible for me! (work schedule may conflict but we will see ) Thank you for informing me though. I am stoked!
 

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