Hi again, is it possible to keep 2 male apistos, (no females) in a 4ft community tank? Or will they still get territorial and flighty? Thanks
The structures have to be done correct: broken lines of sight in the lower 20cm of the tank, and no way of looking from one side of the tank through to the other side. And even then you have to calculate with 60cm diameter per male territory, so if done right a 120cm tank can house only two male Apistogramma.
Have to say, I’m always fascinated by your insight.Now you ask for 2. In the other thread it made the impression you were going for more.
I quote myself
And I add: Said tank will have to be done right.
Also, Apistogramma are not community fish in my opinion. At best a biotope community with the right combination of fish, otherwise rather not.
Is the tak already set up? If so, mind giving us a glimpse?
Really? Well mine were OK for a few months I suppose, and it was one particular male that caused most of the problems, but I only have experience of those two species.Multiple males is perfectly fine.
As a general rule of thumb, aggression can be broken down by water type to a strong degree. Blackwater fish being the least social, clearwater fish being more social, and whitewater fish the most social. ( The easier it is to find food, the less mean you need to be to survive)
Not a totally unique experience. I once had a male borellii that was a complete tyrant. I'm sure in the wild he would have claimed an 8' circle as his territory, where his brothers and cousins were completely content in cohabitation defending a territory of maybe 12" x 12".Really? Well mine were OK for a few months I suppose, and it was one particular male that caused most of the problems, but I only have experience of those two species.
Great species!Looking at viejita, I already have one so I was just considering another as I really like them
In my tank that is stocked the heaviest (5M/1F), the males bicker over territory, they display, they chase, but no one is damaged. I'd consider them reasonably social.Oh great! How aggressive are they generally? And are some species more aggressive than others?
Odd...my experience with ortegai subcomplex fish was rather unmemorable in terms of aggression, but I don't think I ever housed more than a dozen togetherAdd ortegai to that list.
About the viejita make sure it's not one of the macmasteri strains that're sold under the name. Lately a lot of retailers have been selling domestic macmasteri as viejita here and in north america alike.
Also how can I make sure it’s not a Macmasteri strain?
One thing about @MacZ comment is that to my knowledge he keeps his fish in a small tank
Just look for yourself. Especially that dark area on the flanks/belly is a telltale sign.