Kait's Tanks

  1. KaitKat

    KaitKat Valued Member Member

    Hi everyone,

    ~ My oldest tank is my 3.5g Betta tank. Yes, I know Bettas should be in a 5g but I tried that with mine and he was very inactive and pathetic looking to be honest. I moved him into a temporary 3.5g when something happened with the 5g and he immediately perked up so I kept him there to see what he'd do. The temporary tank turned into a permanent one! He's been super happy in there for a few months now, it was a significant change in his activity, so I'm not going to mess with him! He went from flaring when he saw me, to swimming up and doing "tricks" aka booping the glass in my direction and doing a circle. I used to call him my jerk fish for flaring at me for no reason but now he's really sweet. His name is Andy, named after the Andamooka Opal since they're really pretty and have the same colors, and he's probably about 1 year now. I got him from Petsmart so according to google he was about 6 months to a year when I got him and I've had him for about 8 months now. So now that I'm doing the math he's anywhere from 14-20 months old (as of 6/16/18). If you saw this post before 6/26 you saw there was a huge plant in there that he loved. Unfortunately algae problems pushed me to add a live plant to the tank. I'm thinking about getting more but we'll see how this first one goes :)
    Old tank (with the big fake plant) IMG_3401.JPG
    New setup IMG_6678.JPG
    I cleaned the volcano bubbler from another setup and put it in there on a super low setting (like 1 bubble every 5 seconds) and he seems to like it so far.

    ~ My next tank is my 20g. Edit- Snoot, my blue spotted puffer, died. I'm starting over with this tank and documenting it below.

    ~ My 3rd "tank" is my Crested Gecko terrarium but I'll stick to telling you about the fish unless someone wants me to include it :) Give the people what they want, right? lol
     
  2. RainBetta

    RainBetta Valued Member Member

    Nice! Are you thinking of getting more tanks?
     
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    KaitKat

    KaitKat Valued Member Member

    I'm transferring from community college to a 4 year school in about 6 months so not in the very near future but eventually yes. The puffer is definitely going to need a bigger one in the future so that would open my 20g for maybe some clownfish and/or a small saltwater community if they still interest me at that point. I haven't looked into anything those are just off the top of my head right now :)
     
  4. Adriifu

    Adriifu Well Known Member Member

    Love it. You've been popping up a lot on this forum :) Your puffer fish is gorgeous.
     
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    KaitKat

    KaitKat Valued Member Member

    Thank you! I'm just so excited about him. Even my mom ("its just a fish you need to relax" lady) thinks he's adorable!
     
  6. Adriifu

    Adriifu Well Known Member Member

    How much did he cost?
     
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    KaitKat

    KaitKat Valued Member Member

    He was originally $29 but I had given them some fish so they gave me a 20% off coupon and I used it so I only ended up paying $23.99 before tax. There was a larger one for $46 but that size didn't work for my tank right now so I went with the smaller one.
     
  8. Adriifu

    Adriifu Well Known Member Member

    That's a good deal :) I got two frostbite clownfish for just $20.00. They were originally $90.00 a piece. I love the LFS employees.
     
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    KaitKat Valued Member Member

    Wow thats awesome! I don't know mine well enough for anything like that yet. I'm brand new to the whole knowing there are REAL fish stores thing and not going to Petsmart to get them lol.. Snoot is my first non-petsmart fish
     
  10. Adriifu

    Adriifu Well Known Member Member

    Haha, yeah. I go to the LFS a lot, so they know me very well :)
     
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    KaitKat

    KaitKat Valued Member Member

    So today I washed the sand and filled a little over 3/4 of the tank with saltwater that I mixed in the bucket first. I work today so I'll go to the LFS tomorrow and pick up some live rock (and a powerhead) so after that's in there I'll top it off if I need to. If the water is a little cloudy because the sand hasn't completely settled, will that mess with the hydrometer and test kit readings? I just wasn't sure if it'd even be worth it to test today.
    @Lorekeeper @stella1979
     
  12. Lorekeeper

    Lorekeeper Well Known Member Member

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    KaitKat

    KaitKat Valued Member Member

    Okay thanks! I just got home so I'll get started on my tests and add a refractometer to the list
     
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    KaitKat

    KaitKat Valued Member Member

    I think I came up with a new stocking list, let me know what you think. I wanted some different colors going on in there and I'm debating the black ocellaris' because they're pretty cool looking. I put them in the order I think they should be stocked but I'm not 100% sure. (@stella1979 would you be able to check this?) I'm planning on getting the live rock tomorrow so any advice on what to look for in the rock to keep these guys happy would be awesome (assuming this list is "approved" ;)).

    1 Skunk Cleaner Shrimp
    1 Yellow Watchman Goby
    1 Emerald Crab
    2 (Black?) Ocellaris Clownfish

    *edit- and apparently a snail (supposed to be puffer food but he didn't eat it.. there were 2 but he ate one and I couldn't find the other even after cleaning all the sand so I guess it was hiding on the filter or heater)
     
  15. stella1979

    stella1979 Fishlore VIP Member

    Hey Kait! Glad to see a build thread from you. :)

    Hmmm, shrimp are some of the more sensitive species that we keep, so shouldn't be the first thing in a 'new' tank. A new tank is what you'll have after a re-start. The stocking looks great, but I would do it like this instead.

    Cleanup crew
    snails
    - I prefer banded Trochus. Snails are great for the diatom blooms that arise in new tanks.

    You might want to wait to stock any crabs. They'll need algae to munch on after all. Algae inevitably arises, but perhaps not until after the first fish and regular feedings.

    Yellow Watchman (YWG) - Do you know that these guys will form a symbiotic bonding with a pistol shrimp? They'll live together in a burrow maintained by the nearly blind shrimp. The shrimp keeps house and the goby is the security guard.:) It might be worth looking into.;) The shrimp will not add much if anything to your bioload.

    Emerald Crab - Like any crab, you might find a few reports of them going rogue and eating coral.o_O Do you plan on having coral? Most of my online buddies love these guys and report that they are model citizens, but they make me nervous.:p Best to get a female if you can, as I've heard it's usually males that go rogue. They are great little cleaners though AND eat types of algae that other CUC won't touch, like bubble and bryopsis. :D Crabs in general are what you want for '3D' algae... that is, algae that's not flat and snails won't touch. Just about everybody ends up with gha at some point and emeralds and hermits are great little lawnmowers for the job. If you do plan on having coral, stick with reef safe crabs. :)

    Fighting Conch - If you want.;) These guys are great for keeping the sand clean and aerated, which is a good thing to defend against the dreaded cyanobacteria. The conch will need occasional supplemental feedings of omnivorous fish foods when the sand is too clean for it to find it's meals there. They will eat just about everything that litters your sand though, detritus, leftover fish food, diatoms and hair algae that grows in the sand or low on rocks.

    2 Occy or Percula Clowns - Finally!!! You can move rather quickly with your clean up crew, but I suggest you give your YWG at least 3 weeks to become truly comfortable before adding your little aggressors. :)


    So... I really like to support the LFS as much as I can, but there are some things that are more than twice the price of what you can find online. I'd look at Amazon for equipment like powerheads and a refractometer. Bulk Reef Supply and Marine Depot are also good online vendors with competitive pricing,. Marine Depot has a great rewards program and BRS has free shipping.;)
     
  16. Nart

    Nart Well Known Member Member

    If you haven't bought it already, I have some brand new spare refractometers from Marine Depot that I can sell to you 1/2 price if you're interested.
    Just out of curiosity, which LFS are you going to in Virginia?
     
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    KaitKat Valued Member Member

    Okay, that makes sense about the shrimp. I really like the cleaner shrimp though, are you just saying I should I wait to stock one until everyone else has been in there for a few months without having any water problems?
    Cleanup crew snails - I can definitely get a Trochus from my LFS. Would you reccomend 1 or 2?
    Yellow Watchman- I didn't know that about the pistol shrimp, but I'll definitely look into that. Would I be able to have both the cleaner and the pistol?
    Crab- I don't plan on having coral, I don't think my LED's would support it. I'll still try to get a female though just in case coral is in my future :)
    Fighting Conch- I'll look into that. I apparently have a Nassarius snail now (uneaten puffer food- disappeared until last night). I didn't see it when I cleaned the sand but I've been watching it since I found it again and its spending most of its time buried in the sand (and making me really confused as to where it was when I took all the sand/water out). If I got one more, would they basically do the same thing? This Nassarius dude is kinda cool now that it decided to join the party... its like Where's Waldo fish tank edition
    Clowns- Yay, I'm excited for these guys! If I end up wanting to get a pistol shrimp for the YWG would I need to do that before the Clownfish or can I decide that later on?

    I'm in NOVA too. I'm going to Centerville Aquarium off of 29. And I'm definitely interested in that!
     
  18. stella1979

    stella1979 Fishlore VIP Member

    Shrimp Oops! I forgot to include your cleaner shrimp!!! Sorry!:oops: No, I didn't mean to infer that he should be added last, just plumb forgot him. You can add shrimp maybe a month or two in. You just want to give time for the tank to stabilize
    a bit before adding them as they are very sensitive to ammonia spikes or high nitrates. Yes, you may have both a pistol shrimp and a cleaner shrimp as they will occupy very different spaces. The pistol is a wimp,;) not seen much and rarely leaves his burrow, (they're still cool and I love mine), while the cleaner will be out and about doing his thing and totally unafraid.

    Snails I have 3 Trochus in my 20g and they are all happy. :) Nassarius snails do spend almost all their time in the sand, but you should see them now and then when food hits the tank. I haven't had the best luck with mine honestly which may be because they are strictly carnivores and I feed the tank carefully and corals catch food too... leaving little leftovers for the nass snails.

    Crabs You're probably right about your light, but once you've had this salty tank running for a little while and initial costs are further from the mind, a reef light won't seem like such a big purchase. Most FOWLR tanks don't stay that way for very long, so best to stick with reef safe critters anyway.;)

    Fish The clowns will have little bearing on the introduction of a pistol shrimp so you can certainly wait on this... However, the pairing process may occur a little easier without crazy clowns in the tank. A clowns level of activity is enough to scare timid creatures into hiding, and you want your goby and pistol shrimp to share a hiding space.

    You are one lucky aquarist to have @Nart nearby. :D Beware his candy shop or you may be shopping for a reef light sooner than you think, lol. You should also consider checking in with his aquarium club, or just your local reefer scene as it seems to be a really great one. He's gotten great deals on fish, corals, and equipment via this club and fellow local hobbyists.
     
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    KaitKat

    KaitKat Valued Member Member

    Its okay I just wanted to check! Thanks for all your advice and help! I'm definitely excited for this tank. And you're right, this does seem like fuel for the addiction lol


    What should I do with this snail until the tank is cycled? I want to just put it in a small container with sand and some water for the time being but I can see the trails and its been a lot more active than just a container would allow
     
  20. stella1979

    stella1979 Fishlore VIP Member

    That's a toughie... the snail can survive some time in a container, but probably not for very long without flow. Flow oxygenates the water and oxygen is something all creatures need. :) How about a bucket with a tiny nano pump?

    I actually really love these little pumps and have four of them myself. They are super handy for small quarantine setups and we're currently using two for that. I still like to have a couple of spares around because they are cheap and just what you'd need in unusual situations like this. I've used them in buckets before when giving fish a medicated bath.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZW6OHH...Fz&pd_rd_r=NWZK5HSZTPY1K948SKW9&pd_rd_w=v2QqT