Just picked up a few more longfin lemon blue eye bristlenose plecos

SanDiegoRedneck
  • #1
Picked up 6 more longfin lemon blue eye bristlenose plecos today. I now have 10 total.
In 20 gal longs with guppies, 4 in one tank and 3 in two different tanks

mattgirl or others that breed plecos. Do you think I can do 1m and 2f in 2gal long w guppies?


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RangerDansFish
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Nice those sound like fun tanks to watch. Longfin are pretty!
 
Moony42
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Aww man they are cute. Do plecos live in ponds with guppies and mollies and red finned sharks with no filter?
 
Flyfisha
  • #5
They sold you fry. That’s not Acceptable .Or did someone give them to you? You have them now . Feed them well a few time each day with multiple water changes each week and some should survive?
Yes you can breed these guys in a 20 gallon.
There will be a least 100 fry so you have some hard decisions ahead. When not breeding each 6 inch BN pleco needs at least 40 gallons IMO. Because they breed like rabbits I suggest just one per tank. At 2 inches the males will squabble over food.
Raise up what you can . Hopefully you get a couple up the 3 inches in 6 months with lots of feeding. Keep a pair and sell any others that survive is my suggestion.


The fry you have need to eat sawdust soon. Mix up a gell food with sawdust from drift wood. They need to suck on old drift wood at the very least soon very soon.
 
SanDiegoRedneck
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  • #6
They sold you fry. That’s not Acceptable .Or did someone give them to you? You have them now . Feed them well a few time each day with multiple water changes each week and some should survive?
Yes you can breed these guys in a 20 gallon.
There will be a least 100 fry so you have some hard decisions ahead. When not breeding each 6 inch BN pleco needs at least 40 gallons IMO. Because they breed like rabbits I suggest just one per tank. At 2 inches the males will squabble over food.
Raise up what you can . Hopefully you get a couple up the 3 inches in 6 months with lots of feeding. Keep a pair and sell any others that survive is my suggestion.


The fry you have need to eat sawdust soon. Mix up a gell food with sawdust from drift wood. They need to suck on old drift wood at the very least soon very soon.
I have 3 older siblings already of these guys plus one 3in male. I recieved last time at this size also. I actually text him he didn't even have listed. So I knew were fry.

Doing great. I dont expect to lose any of these guys.

There is wood in each of the tanks they can suck on.

I'll stick with one pair in 20long. Maybe if I'm lucky from the 10 I have I will get 3 good pairs.
 
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mattgirl
  • #7
Once these little guys and girls get to breeding age you can expect a new spawn every month. That is how I managed to get way too many of them. I knew I had one spawn from Little Red and Evelyn. About a month later I saw another spawn of super tiny fry so knew they had been at it again. At that point I removed Little Red.

I don't know how big the lemon blue eyed long finned get but the super reds are full grown at about 3 inches if Evelyn and Little Red are true to size. With your new guys I would only put one male to each female unless you want to work your little male too hard.

You should be able to grow out each spawn in a 20 gallon tank but it is going to take a lot of water changes. Keep in mind I am doing a water change daily but my grow out tank only holds 12 gallons of water. I also run a super sized HOB filter on this tank.

Fresh clean water is necessary to remove both waste from excess feeding and growth hormones. I try to keep fresh food in for mine all the time. I check several times a day and if they have cleaned their plate I add more. I have a feeding dish in for them so it is easy to see if all the food is gone.

When Elbert and Evelyn bred the one and only time I allowed it they produced about 85 fry. Each spawn from Little Red and Evelyn produced at least that many with each spawn so big daily water change became even more necessary.
 
SanDiegoRedneck
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  • #8
Once these little guys and girls get to breeding age you can expect a new spawn every month. That is how I managed to get way too many of them. I knew I had one spawn from Little Red and Evelyn. About a month later I saw another spawn of super tiny fry so knew they had been at it again. At that point I removed Little Red.

I don't know how big the lemon blue eyed long finned get but the super reds are full grown at about 3 inches if Evelyn and Little Red are true to size. With your new guys I would only put one male to each female unless you want to work your little male too hard.

You should be able to grow out each spawn in a 20 gallon tank but it is going to take a lot of water changes. Keep in mind I am doing a water change daily but my grow out tank only holds 12 gallons of water. I also run a super sized HOB filter on this tank.

Fresh clean water is necessary to remove both waste from excess feeding and growth hormones. I try to keep fresh food in for mine all the time. I check several times a day and if they have cleaned their plate I add more. I have a feeding dish in for them so it is easy to see if all the food is gone.

When Elbert and Evelyn bred the one and only time I allowed it they produced about 85 fry. Each spawn from Little Red and Evelyn produced at least that many with each spawn so big daily water change became even more necessary.
I ordered HOB filters today to ad to the dual sponge filter to help w poop monsters. But thanks for reminder will do extra water changes.

I will get another 20gal long for only fry when born. and keep just a breeding pair in each 20gal
 
SanDiegoRedneck
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  • #9
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Once these little guys and girls get to breeding age you can expect a new spawn every month. That is how I managed to get way too many of them. I knew I had one spawn from Little Red and Evelyn. About a month later I saw another spawn of super tiny fry so knew they had been at it again. At that point I removed Little Red.

I don't know how big the lemon blue eyed long finned get but the super reds are full grown at about 3 inches if Evelyn and Little Red are true to size. With your new guys I would only put one male to each female unless you want to work your little male too hard.

You should be able to grow out each spawn in a 20 gallon tank but it is going to take a lot of water changes. Keep in mind I am doing a water change daily but my grow out tank only holds 12 gallons of water. I also run a super sized HOB filter on this tank.

Fresh clean water is necessary to remove both waste from excess feeding and growth hormones. I try to keep fresh food in for mine all the time. I check several times a day and if they have cleaned their plate I add more. I have a feeding dish in for them so it is easy to see if all the food is gone.

When Elbert and Evelyn bred the one and only time I allowed it they produced about 85 fry. Each spawn from Little Red and Evelyn produced at least that many with each spawn so big daily water change became even more necessary.
Ps I am going to stop at Walmart today and get feeding dishes for my tanks
 
Flyfisha
  • #10
3 pairs should keep you busy.
I don’t think you realise how easy these fish breed and just how much tank space 100 plus fry take up?
Each time I have put a male and female in the same tank I have had eggs in 3 days.
This lot I am dealing with at the moment is in 6 small tanks at the moment even after I sold 25 to a stranger . Drove 100 km to give away 12. Took a bag of 15 to a shop for store credit.Exchanged a bag of 10 for some sponge filters and put the half dozen I actually wanted in their own tanks.
Seriously water changes 3 times a week starts to be less than funny after a couple of months.

My town has a couple of unwritten rules.
A dollar a centimetre and a minimum of 4 centimetres before sale. With Covid no auctions are happening and I take what I can get.

I suggest you start talking seriously to shops before to long. Get a relationship developing with the manager.The tip I pass on to you is young males of around 3 inches make the best father’s. Breeding a young male is the best way to get a fish that will fan the eggs continuously for however many days it takes for the eggs to hatch. Big old 6 inch males lose interest in the job ( I am told) after a couple of days.
 
mattgirl
  • #11
I ordered HOB filters today to ad to the dual sponge filter to help w poop monsters. But thanks for reminder will do extra water changes.

I will get another 20gal long for only fry when born. and keep just a breeding pair in each 20gal
Good deal. Along with the big HOB I also run a sponge filter in their tank. It is the one I used to cycle their home so I just left it in there.
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Ps I am going to stop at Walmart today and get feeding dishes for my tanks
I actually found perfect feeding dishes in my curio cabinet The plecos have an oval dish about 6 inches long and 1 inch deep. The shrimp have a little round salt cellar. My corys in the big tank clean up any food that makes it to the bottom so no need for a feeding dish in there.
 
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SanDiegoRedneck
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  • #12
3 pairs should keep you busy.
I don’t think you realise how easy these fish breed and just how much tank space 100 plus fry take up?
Each time I have put a male and female in the same tank I have had eggs in 3 days.
This lot I am dealing with at the moment is in 6 small tanks at the moment even after I sold 25 to a stranger . Drove 100 km to give away 12. Took a bag of 15 to a shop for store credit.Exchanged a bag of 10 for some sponge filters and put the half dozen I actually wanted in their own tanks.
Seriously water changes 3 times a week starts to be less than funny after a couple of months.

My town has a couple of unwritten rules.
A dollar a centimetre and a minimum of 4 centimetres before sale. With Covid no auctions are happening and I take what I can get.

I suggest you start talking seriously to shops before to long. Get a relationship developing with the manager.The tip I pass on to you is young males of around 3 inches make the best father’s. Breeding a young male is the best way to get a fish that will fan the eggs continuously for however many days it takes for the eggs to hatch. Big old 6 inch males lose interest in the job ( I am told) after a couple of days.
I am the type of guy who needs lots to do to stay happy. My hands need to be busy. so we will see if I shoot myself in foot (wont be first time). Lol. But I do understand will be lots of work.

I just measured and there 3.5 to 4cm each
 
mattgirl
  • #13
Seriously water changes 3 times a week starts to be less than funny after a couple of months.
I couldn't agree with you more. I have been doing this for over a year now and it is taking its toll on me. First with Elbert and Evelyn's fry and now with Little Red and Evelyn's double spawn of fry. It is a lot of work.

Big old 6 inch males lose interest in the job ( I am told) after a couple of days.
A bit if trivia: Should that happen an airstone turned down low works well. I was concerned that Elbert wouldn't come out to eat so I pulled he and Evelyn's eggs after a couple of days. I put them in a small tank and let the bubbles from an airstone play over them. As far as I could tell every egg hatched.
 
Flyfisha
  • #14
That’s interesting mattgirl that you guys have these smaller fish. As I have said before Grandfather mixed up 3 species of these plecos years ago so all the fish in Australia are stuffed up. No way can we import any new blood at any price.

Oh that’s good news SanDiegoRedneck.
As I wrote above our bloodline is quite a bit different to how those look. Ours are more solid in the body and have lots more offspring by the sound of it?
 
Sleepyflea
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No fish store in the area would do it for me. But after speaking with my LFS about how i breed guppies they said they would buy them from me. I have 26 guppies and they will offer $1-2 a piece when theyre colored. I agree its very important to build relationships with local businesses. All i did was ask if they would be willing to take some fry off my hand once they have color.
 
SanDiegoRedneck
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  • #16
That’s interesting mattgirl that you guys have these smaller fish. As I have said before Grandfather mixed up 3 species of these plecos years ago so all the fish in Australia are stuffed up. No way can we import any new blood at any price.

Oh that’s good news SanDiegoRedneck.
As I wrote above our bloodline is quite a bit different to how those look. Ours are more solid in the body and have lots more offspring by the sound of it?
Yes mattgirl were full grown at about 3in to 4in I think. Correct me if I'm wrong
 
mattgirl
  • #17
Yes mattgirl were full grown at about 3in to 4in I think. Correct me if I'm wrong
You are correct. The only 2 adult super reds I have had are Little Red and Evelyn. Both stopped growing at about 3 inches. Evelyn was chunky but Little Red is fairly slim. Time will tell how big their fry will be but I suspect they won't get much bigger than their parents. Evelyn's genes must have played a big part in the size of the fry she and Elbert produced because so far none of them have grown to any where near Elbert's size.

I traded most of their fry for some bloodfin tetras but still had 6 in my big tank and 5 in a smaller one. 10 of them seem to have stopped growing at about 3 inches but one is still only about an inch long. I will keep this tiny creature but need to find homes for the other 10. I know they can't spend the rest of their lives in this small tank and if I'm not careful I will end up with more babies.

Right now 9 of them are in a 10 gallon tank and there is still one in my big tank. Hopefully one day I will be able to catch and move it. It is a wiley little creature though. If it proves to be a female I fear I will end up with fry in my big tank and I will never be able to catch them all. If I see Elbert guarding eggs I will be forced to remove them.
 

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