Java Fern dieing?

Gwenz
  • #1
I have 2 Java Fern in my 7.5gal tank. I have an 11W fluorescant bulb in the tank, but ever since I have bought them one seems to be dieing. It has a lot of brown parts on the leaves and the leaves just seem to flop everywhere. There are new leaves coming from the bottom. What should I do? The other plant seems to be doing fine, but I'm not sure if it is a Java Fern. It looks nothing like the other plant, and it seems to have, what looks like, roots comeing out of the top of the leaves of the plants. Is this normal?

Thanks

Gwenz
 
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Marc
  • #2
I've had it happen to mine, but they've always recovered. Have you moved them recently?
 
Gwenz
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
They are quite new in the tank. Been there about a week. My mum bought them, and they were like that when she got them for me. The new leaves that are coming from the bottom are a nice green, but are still very small at the moment and the other leaves (the ones with brown patches) lokk horrible and look like they are going to die. :-\ What should I do?

thanks

Gwenz
 
Marc
  • #4
If the leaves get really bad, you can clip them back to the green. It should take them a few weeks but they'll be looking great once they recover.
 
Gwenz
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
Ok thanks.

Gwenz
 
Isabella
  • #6
The Java Fern is probably in the process of "getting settled" in a new tank. I think it's normal for newly planted plants to lose some leaves. Any leaves and roots that are decaying should be removed. Once the plant gets established it should do well.
 
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Gwenz
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
So should I just cut the leaves off?

Thanks

Gwenz
 
Isabella
  • #8
Yes, but I am not sure whether you should cut them off at the crown of the stems or higher.
 
Gwenz
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
Oh OK. Do you think Carol or someone would know? I could PM her.

Gwenz
 
Marc
  • #10
Most of the leaves on mine fully recovered; however, if they get really bad, you can just clip them back.
 
Isabella
  • #11
Carol will probably know. But you can also go to plant geek - they know really a lot about all aquatic plants. When I have questions about a planted tank or plants, I always ask them.
 
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Gwenz
  • Thread Starter
  • #12
OK thanks.

Gwenz
 
TommyD11730
  • #13
Hey Guys
Received a HUGE gorgeous Java Fern via mail order. Was so big I split it on the rhizome and attached both halfs (via a drop of super glue) to a piece of driftwood. Took a couple of weeks but both plants are dieing. Each leaf is browning from the stem up (see photo).

I use both Flourish and Easy Green, about 8 hours of light (Beamsworks FSPEC) and never buried the plant. 2 other ferns in the tank are doing just fine.

So, thoughts on what exactly is killing these plants?

Thanks!!
 

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richiep
  • #14
I wonder if the roots are reacting to the superglue, arnt the roots supposed to be in the substrate to feed
 
Gourami36
  • #15
Java fern is not a root feeder.
 
TommyD11730
  • #16
I was wondering the same thing, but I glued the other 2 I have (with a lot more glue... I got dumb thumbs!) to clay pots. Tried to keep the glue off the roots.

I removed the dead leaves from the plant, and plants from the drift wood. Removed any trace of glue from the rhizome and placed them in another tank. Hope/pray I get some new growth
 
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richiep
  • #17
Ok sorry didn't know that we live and learn
 
richiep
  • #18
With jarva moss and subwasstag I use fishing gut to hold in place don't know if it's possible to do it with fern but maybe worth a try
 
danhutchins
  • #19
I was wondering the same thing, but I glued the other 2 I have (with a lot more glue... I got dumb thumbs!) to clay pots. Tried to keep the glue off the roots.

I removed the dead leaves from the plant, and plants from the drift wood. Removed any trace of glue from the rhizome and placed them in another tank. Hope/pray I get some new growth
Are you dosing ferts? Could either be that the plant is adapting to the tank or not enough ferts in the water column. I would think it's just adjusting and moving it from tank to tank is doing more harm than good.
 
Thunder_o_b
  • #20
When I tie plants I use cotton thread. It dissolves over time and will not strangle the plant as it grows.
 
danhutchins
  • #21
Just realized I have 666 post so I need to post again to make it not so creepy.
 
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KimberlyG
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Just realized I have 666 post so I need to post again to make it not so creepy.
I would do the same thing!
 
TommyD11730
  • #23
Are you dosing ferts? Could either be that the plant is adapting to the tank or not enough ferts in the water column. I would think it's just adjusting and moving it from tank to tank is doing more harm than good.

Yes on Ferts, Flourish every other day and Easy Green weekly. Root tabs under the substrate for other plants.
 
danhutchins
  • #24
Yes on Ferts, Flourish every other day and Easy Green weekly. Root tabs under the substrate for other plants.
Ok, so that leads me to believe that they are just adjusting. I would just leave them in the tank you want them in and let them do their thing, they will come around.
 
JAMarlow
  • #25
Java ferns often melt when put into a new tank. So long as the rhizome is not buried, and is still green and healthy, it should put out new leaves that are adapted to your water conditions.

Keep doing your fertilizer dosing regimen and keep an eye on them. Also watch the leaves that are currently dying. They may begin producing plantlets that you can then glue and allow to grow elsewhere.
 

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