Is my new dwarf gourami sick or adjusting?

Ambie
  • #1
I recently bought a dwarf gourami that be acting odd for the last day and a half.
The day before he ate a little for the first time (fluval bug bites) and was swimming a little bit but mostly staying hidden in the plants. Since then he stays in a vertical position with his nose to the surface then after a 10-15 mins will move around a bit then go back to doing the same thing. No bloating / pineconing / gasping.

Jan 22 - Day 1 he was drip acclimated with the other fish that I brought that same day (each in their own bag with no store water put into the tank). Topped off the tank after with prime treated water same temp as the tank.

Tank is a planted 20 Long Aquaclear 50 with 1 Male Dwarf Gourami / 8 Black Neon Tetras / 8 Harlequin Rasbora / 6 Bronze Corys/ 2 Amano Shrimp (All other fish/shrimp are fine and eating with no fighting or chasing)
I know that dwarfs a prone to dwarf gourami disease, So I kinda lost right now on what to do.

The only thing that have gone into the tank are Prime, stability and excel and thrive. (all dosed accordingly)

Fishless cycled finished on Jan 21

Water Parameters taken today: API Master Kit
Temp: 77-78f
pH: 7.2
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: 10ppm
TDS: 121


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Amya
  • #2
Awww man. I fell in love with my dwarf gourami. He was the friendliest little guy with such a personality! Unfortunately he went from great health to dead very quickly. I understand there is a severe inbreeding problem with dwarf gourami. Most all the fish and up with Dwarf Gourami Disease, from the fish farms. Very contagious and incurable. I have lost 4 dwarfs to this disease, no other fish species losses so I have to assume it's this virus. I'm sorry your guy is going through this. They are my favorite fish. I just can't bear to buy more and watch them die
 

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Ambie
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
Awww man. I fell in love with my dwarf gourami. He was the friendliest little guy with such a personality! Unfortunately he went from great health to dead very quickly. I understand there is a severe inbreeding problem with dwarf gourami. Most all the fish and up with Dwarf Gourami Disease, from the fish farms. Very contagious and incurable. I have lost 4 dwarfs to this disease, no other fish species losses so I have to assume it's this virus. I'm sorry your guy is going through this. They are my favorite fish. I just can't bear to buy more and watch them die

He just passed away. I knew I was taking a risk with dwarfs. My 5 year old is going to be devastated. She already named him Biggie Smalls.
I know honey gouramis tend to be clear of this problem, but I can't seem to find honeys in my area.
 
Drewbacca
  • #4
I refuse to buy dwarf gouramis any more. After watching a few die to DGD, I’ve had enough. My first one started losing its scales and my second would would eat them. It was disgusting and sad. In addition to the health issues, I always had trouble with the males being aggressive. I’m going to do honey gouramis next, but I’m paranoid my LFS is gonna sell me a mislabeled thicklipped gourami or a hybrid. They always say red honey gourami, but I heard that might be the hybrid. I’d rather go for wild type but I have no idea where to find them.
 
Ambie
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
I refuse to buy dwarf gouramis any more. After watching a few die to DGD, I’ve had enough. My first one started losing its scales and my second would would eat them. It was disgusting and sad. In addition to the health issues, I always had trouble with the males being aggressive. I’m going to do honey gouramis next, but I’m paranoid my LFS is gonna sell me a mislabeled thicklipped gourami or a hybrid. They always say red honey gourami, but I heard that might be the hybrid. I’d rather go for wild type but I have no idea where to find them.

I think this will be my first and last gourami unless I can find a seller that a home breeder and not a chain distribution type. It's just like with regular neons tetras had 10 die on me in less than a day. My local options are petco/petsmart and lfs that mostly sell saltwater with very little options outside of guppies, tetras and rasboras. But there aren't a lot of TN Swap meets to get them from regular hobbyist instead of imported.

I could deal with it being my fault but i've fishless cycled and drip acclimated to insure a easy transfer then still have it end badly just leaves a bad taste.
 
Amya
  • #6
I'm sorry I never had honey gouramis. I currently have a Male Pearl Gourami. He is a bit more timid personality than the dwarf. But, I believe most gouramis are not susceptible to the same disease as the dwarf gouramis. (Btw , love how your daughter went old school with the name)
 

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Drewbacca
  • #7
I think this will be my first and last gourami unless I can find a seller that a home breeder and not a chain distribution type. It's just like with regular neons tetras had 10 die on me in less than a day. My local options are petco/petsmart and lfs that mostly sell saltwater with very little options outside of guppies, tetras and rasboras. But there aren't a lot of TN Swap meets to get them from regular hobbyist instead of imported.

I could deal with it being my fault but i've fishless cycled and drip acclimated to insure a easy transfer then still have it end badly just leaves a bad taste.

Too bad you’re not closer to Nashville. We have a great LFS called The Aquatic Critter.
 
jinjerJOSH22
  • #8
Most other commonly kept Gourami have a much better health record than Dwarf Gourami.
Honey Gourami are fantastic, cute, better behaved and have a much better health record, while a lot of confusion comes between them and Thick Lipped Gourami, you could always post pictures on here for us to help.

It sucks about your Dwarf Gourami, they are such a wonderful fish

While there is no proof of a strain of Iridovirus specific to Dwarf Gourami they do have a terrible health record and it's such a shame
 
Ambie
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
Most other commonly kept Gourami have a much better health record than Dwarf Gourami.
Honey Gourami are fantastic, cute, better behaved and have a much better health record, while a lot of confusion comes between them and Thick Lipped Gourami, you could always post pictures on here for us to help.

It sucks about your Dwarf Gourami, they are such a wonderful fish

While there is no proof of a strain of Iridovirus specific to Dwarf Gourami they do have a terrible health record and it's such a shame

Really sucks because he was very non aggressive to the other fish. But I knew the risk when I got him.
Do you know any good online sellers?
 
jinjerJOSH22
  • #10
Really sucks because he was very non aggressive to the other fish. But I knew the risk when I got him.
Do you know any good online sellers?
I don't sorry, plus i'm in the UK
coralbandit linked me to a site that's reliable, if he can remember it
 
coralbandit
  • #11
I don't sorry, plus i'm in the UK
coralbandit linked me to a site that's reliable, if he can remember it
WetSpot in Oregon is reported to have clean dwarfs and recently even had females ..
You can find WetSpot on Aquabid to see prices and all..
 

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