Is my Gourami glass surfing

Fishowner24

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Is my Gourami glass surfing he goes on the bottom of the tank gliding against the glass. If it is glass surfing I think it is because of the fish he is with and I will move him to a 20 gallon tank with a divider because it has a betta fish in it right now.
 

Candace

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Fishowner24 said:
Is my Gourami glass surfing he goes on the bottom of the tank gliding against the glass. If it is glass surfing I think it is because of the fish he is with and I will move him to a 20 gallon tank with a divider because it has a betta fish in it right now.
I would definitely remove the gourami. Bettas and gourami's are closely related, both are colorful and classify as "Siamese fighting fish". Same as any other fish, some are more aggressive and some are more peaceful, but more often than not bettas and gourami's cannot be housed together because they'll develop territorial issues and risk fighting.

Edit: I just read your other post. Are you talking about moving the gourami out of the tank with the barbs, rainbow shark and tetras to a 20g divided with the betta in the other half? You've already been advised to move the gourami out of the community tank due to the excessive bullying and I thought I'd read that you were going to move it. Long story short if you care about the fish you need to move it. It's already been injured by its tank mates once. I know you would prefer to keep the gourami in the community tank but if you keep dragging your feet when it comes to moving it then it will die, either from being attacked or from an illness caused by the stress. It should be fine in a divided 20 gallon.
 
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Fishowner24

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Candace said:
I would definitely remove the gourami. Bettas and gourami's are closely related, both are colorful and classify as "Siamese fighting fish". Same as any other fish, some are more aggressive and some are more peaceful, but more often than not bettas and gourami's cannot be housed together because they'll develop territorial issues and risk fighting.

Edit: I just read your other post. Are you talking about moving the gourami out of the tank with the barbs, rainbow shark and tetras to a 20g divided with the betta in the other half? You've already been advised to move the gourami out of the community tank due to the excessive bullying and I thought I'd read that you were going to move it. Long story short if you care about the fish you need to move it. It's already been injured by its tank mates once. I know you would prefer to keep the gourami in the community tank but if you keep dragging your feet when it comes to moving it then it will die, either from being attacked or from an illness caused by the stress. It should be fine in a divided 20 gallon.
Yeah that's what I meant but what I am trying to also ask is it fine for him to be in that small of a tank. It says they can be in 20 gallons. But I will move him
 

Candace

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Fishowner24 said:
Yeah that's what I meant but what I am trying to also ask is it fine for him to be in that small of a tank. It says they can be in 20 gallons. But I will move him
It’s not ideal and I’m just confused as to why the betta was put in the 20g instead of the gourami, or if you already had the betta in the 20g. Either way the top priority is to get the gourami away from it harassers. 10g should be fine temporarily, what kind of gourami do you have?
 
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Fishowner24

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Candace said:
It’s not ideal and I’m just confused as to why the betta was put in the 20g instead of the gourami, or if you already had the betta in the 20g. Either way the top priority is to get the gourami away from it harassers. 10g should be fine temporarily, what kind of gourami do you have?
dwarf gourami

Candace said:
It’s not ideal and I’m just confused as to why the betta was put in the 20g instead of the gourami, or if you already had the betta in the 20g. Either way the top priority is to get the gourami away from it harassers. 10g should be fine temporarily, what kind of gourami do you have?
I am going to move him but the weird thing is that I don't see them attacking them. Is there other ways they can harass him?
 

Candace

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Fishowner24 said:
I am going to move him but the weird thing is that I don't see them attacking them. Is there other ways they can harass him?
Chasing may stress him out too, but if they’re not chasing or attacking that you can see he might just be afraid of them at this point. 10g for a dwarf gourami is fine, it’s the minimum they’d be ok in.
 

Candace

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Fishowner24 said:
Could I put him in the other thanks for a couple months then put him back in the 40 gallon and see if he is not scared anymore.

I wouldn't recommend it.
 
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My dwarf Gourami was swimming at the bottom on the glass is that normal? I don't think it is I think he is scared of my fish so I moved him but I just want to make sure
 

DoubleDutch

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Fishowner24 said:
My dwarf Gourami was swimming at the bottom on the glass is that normal? I don't think it is I think he is scared of my fish so I moved him but I just want to make sure
Moved to where you mean ?
Got a pic ?
 

ali712

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Mine is doing the same thing and I don't know why. I just tested my water and everything looks normal. Mine doesn't really swim though, he more hides in one of the back corners.
 
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Fishowner24

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DoubleDutch said:
Moved to where you mean ?
Got a pic ?
Well I moved him to a different tank then I had to move him back because the divider didn’t work. So he isn’t there anymore
 

BlackBurn

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Mine always stays in its hiding place while the other one is really active swimming back and forth all the time.
 

DoubleDutch

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BlackBurn said:
Mine always stays in its hiding place while the other one is really active swimming back and forth all the time.
A matter.of.dominance probqbly.
 

BlackBurn

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Here is the female Dwarf Gourami that. I mention about.
 

Cherryx

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DGs can be a bit shy and lethargic when newly introduced. But they are also very sensitive I hear, due to the mishandling and tons of treatments they get from the breeders and sellers.

I've had a female DG that came in with internal parasites. She sat at the bottom all the time and then one day, she was gone. I would say watch for his poops (white stringy) because internal parasites are quite dangerous and we miss them because they don't show any other major symptoms.

Hope your colorful fellow does well.
 

BlackBurn

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Cherryx said:
DGs can be a bit shy and lethargic when newly introduced. But they are also very sensitive I hear, due to the mishandling and tons of treatments they get from the breeders and sellers.

I've had a female DG that came in with internal parasites. She sat at the bottom all the time and then one day, she was gone. I would say watch for his poops (white stringy) because internal parasites are quite dangerous and we miss them because they don't show any other major symptoms.

Hope your colorful fellow does well.
Thanks for the heads up Cherryx
So the white string thing in poops shows that they are infected ?

I have put some Aquarium salt and daily 20% water change .... I am avoiding 100%water change afraid that it will stress out the DG more and more.
 

Cherryx

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Yes, white stringy poops are well acknowledged as a def sign of a potential digestive illness. If it goes away after fasting him for a day or two then later, feeding him blanched green peas laced with some garlic powder then it's okay. If its persistent, then you need to try medicated food for effective treatment. You can search on YT for medicated food with General Cure by KG tropicals or other well known Youtubers. Or you could treat the whole tank with General Cure which I don't know if so effective for internal bugs. Dont treat yet try the first method. Dont do 100 PC water change as it can upset the cycle. 20-50 PC is okay. Aquarium salt as an emergency step if fish shows too much stress. Got pic of him to post here? so experienced guys here can give you more specific advice. Hope he recovers soon
Sorry i just saw the pic. From that pic he doesnt seem well. Observe his poop. And then we know something to save him if he does have illness.
I'm hoping it's just shyness.
Sorry i just saw the pic. From that pic he doesnt seem well. Observe his poop. And then we know something to save him if he does have illness.
I'm hoping it's just shyness.
 

DoubleDutch

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BlackBurn said:
Here is the female Dwarf Gourami that. I mention about.
This isn't normal !
 

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