Is anybody else a Tolkien nut?

I'm a huge Tolkien nut, and I just recently found a site (realelvish.net) that provides phrasebooks in Sindarin and Quenya. So now I'm all hyped up over learning more phrases in Sindarin, particularly:
Pen-channas, iston gin eithad be edhellen a nin. (Idiot, I can insult you in elvish and you won't understand me).

Is anybody else a Tolkien nut? Or know Elvish? I filled a notebook with phrases that I intend to use in my oneshots, and just in daily life... Watch out siblings!

 

I love it too, though I'd never bother to learn the languages. Learning Irish and German was bad enough!! My mom named my dog for me and she has an Elvish name.

 

I'm a huge Tolkien nut, and I just recently found a site (realelvish.net) that provides phrasebooks in Sindarin and Quenya. So now I'm all hyped up over learning more phrases in Sindarin, particularly:
Pen-channas, iston gin eithad be edhellen a nin. (Idiot, I can insult you in elvish and you won't understand me).

Is anybody else a Tolkien nut? Or know Elvish? I filled a notebook with phrases that I intend to use in my oneshots, and just in daily life... Watch out siblings!

Not sure if I count as I nut (I always find fandoms of any kind a major turnoff even if I really do like the series) but I reread the books every other year and rewatch the movies (extended cut) the other year. This summer I convinced a long-time friend who had never seen them to cross it off his bucket list by marathonning with me, though only if we watched the shorter cuts. I feel bad for instantly recognising every scene that was cut and then rambling about how important the missing stuff was. And knowing all the lines. So uh, a nut? xD I guess I can hardly deny it.
Learning a fantasy language though... interesting as it is, I think I would prefer sticking that energy in learning actual Gaelish. Or a useful yet beautiful language like Italian or Spanish.
Definitely interesting stuff though! Impressed with every writer who bothers with crafting a consistent language.

I love it too, though I'd never bother to learn the languages. Learning Irish and German was bad enough!! My mom named my dog for me and she has an Elvish name.

Now we must know what it is!

 

Not sure if I count as I nut (I always find fandoms of any kind a major turnoff even if I really do like the series) but I reread the books every other year and rewatch the movies (extended cut) the other year. This summer I convinced a long-time friend who had never seen them to cross it off his bucket list by marathonning with me, though only if we watched the shorter cuts. I feel bad for instantly recognising every scene that was cut and then rambling about how important the missing stuff was. And knowing all the lines. So uh, a nut? xD I guess I can hardly deny it.
Learning a fantasy language though... interesting as it is, I think I would prefer sticking that energy in learning actual Gaelish. Or a useful yet beautiful language like Italian or Spanish.
Definitely interesting stuff though! Impressed with every writer who bothers with crafting a consistent language.

I've read the books and watched the movies more times than I would care to admit to be honest. They're just so good!

Now we must know what it is!

Of course that would have been the smart thing to do Her name is Mírë which means "treasure, precious thing, gem, jewel" in Quenya. We probably pronounce it wrong though. She's a white German shepherd and just the best!

 

I've read the books and watched the movies more times than I would care to admit to be honest. They're just so good!

Of course that would have been the smart thing to do Her name is Mírë which means "treasure, precious thing, gem, jewel" in Quenya. We probably pronounce it wrong though. She's a white German shepherd and just the best!

I know right! I've watched the scene of Theoden's storming of the orc army outside Gondor so many times and it still gives me goosebumps. Most epic movie scene of the last 20 years. If not just in general. That score brings me to tears every time.

Wait, how do you pronounce that? Can you try to write it phonetically?
I like it though, I'll it to my female puppy names list c: I like unusual dog names.

 

I know right! I've watched the scene of Theoden's storming of the orc army outside Gondor so many times and it still gives me goosebumps. Most epic movie scene of the last 20 years. If not just in general. That score brings me to tears every time.

That is the scene I always go back to as well. And Boromirs scene and Aragorn at the Black Gate. Really there's lots but those are the three that come to mind.

Wait, how do you pronounce that? Can you try to write it phonetically?
I like it though, I'll it to my female puppy names list c: I like unusual dog names.

We pronounce it M-ee-ra. In Irish the symbol over the I is called a fada and makes an ee sound, so we naturally pronounced it like that. The vets always pronounce it wrong when they read it.

I've always been interested in how its meant to be pronounced so I looked it up:
Mírë:
í is pronounced "[iː] as in machine"
ë - "A diaeresis (ä ë etc) is a reminder that the vowel is pronounced separately from the letters on either side of it." So that would make it sound like the short e - as in men - I think.
So M-ee-r-eh ?? I dunno. I just say Meera anywhoo.

 

Wow! I LOVE the Hobbit, but I'm a huge fan of KilI and Thorin, and before I ever intended on watching it, I accidently got some MAJOR spoilers. So I'm procrastinating on watching The Battle of the Five armies, because I really don't want to see them die... But that's just me, the major-league fangirl.

And I love Thranduil. Lee Pace does such a good job acting! (And Legolas, you really can't forget Legolas..) And come to think of it, now that we're discussing pronunciation of Elvish names, I think I pronounce Legolas wrong by Elvish terms. Does Leh-go-las sound right to you? In Elvish I think it would be Leh-gaw-lahs.. Oh well...

 

Wow! I LOVE the Hobbit, but I'm a huge fan of KilI and Thorin, and before I ever intended on watching it, I accidently got some MAJOR spoilers. So I'm procrastinating on watching The Battle of the Five armies, because I really don't want to see them die... But that's just me, the major-league fangirl.

And I love Thranduil. Lee Pace does such a good job acting! (And Legolas, you really can't forget Legolas..) And come to think of it, now that we're discussing pronunciation of Elvish names, I think I pronounce Legolas wrong by Elvish terms. Does Leh-go-las sound right to you? In Elvish I think it would be Leh-gaw-lahs.. Oh well...

I loved the Hobbit book, the movies not so much. They fell short of the originals imo. Thranduil was great though, the actors voice was fantastic. I'd go ahead and watch that movie if you haven't. I didn't particularly like the KilI - Tauriel arc.

As for the pronunciation, here is it sounded out:
How to pronounce Legolas : Pronunciation of Legolas

 

I loved the Hobbit book, the movies not so much. They fell short of the originals imo. Thranduil was great though, the actors voice was fantastic. I'd go ahead and watch that movie if you haven't. I didn't particularly like the KilI - Tauriel arc.

As for the pronunciation, here is it sounded out:
How to pronounce Legolas : Pronunciation of Legolas

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of KilixTauriel... Tauriel was okay, but she was kinda out of place imo. The LegolasxTaurielxKilI bit wasn't all that great from what I've watched in the movies so far.

 

That is the scene I always go back to as well. And Boromirs scene and Aragorn at the Black Gate. Really there's lots but those are the three that come to mind.

We pronounce it M-ee-ra. In Irish the symbol over the I is called a fada and makes an ee sound, so we naturally pronounced it like that. The vets always pronounce it wrong when they read it.

I've always been interested in how its meant to be pronounced so I looked it up:
Mírë:
í is pronounced "[iː] as in machine"
ë - "A diaeresis (ä ë etc) is a reminder that the vowel is pronounced separately from the letters on either side of it." So that would make it sound like the short e - as in men - I think.
So M-ee-r-eh ?? I dunno. I just say Meera anywhoo.

I don't really like aragorn's speech at the black gate that much tbh, which is sort of the opposite of Theoden's (somehow I just can't see it working realistically, it would put your army down instead of riling it up...)

Hmmm intersting! That symbol on top of the e exists in two completely different functions in my language, so could have two really different readings... it's either an umlaut (inherited from old Germanic tongues) where it indicates the pronunciation of the e sort of bleeds over into the sound of the consonant that comes after it, which doesn't really work in that word because there is no consonant after it. The other one is called a trema, which is what you meant I think, but that also doesn't work here because it is used to indicate you need to pause between vowels rather than pronounce them as one (we put one on the first e in coefficient for instance, because 'oe' is an existing vowel combination pronounced similar to the oo in pool; so that you know to pronounce it instead as co-efficient). So I think you should probably just pronounce it as you would naturally do an 'e' at the end of a word?
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Wow! I LOVE the Hobbit, but I'm a huge fan of KilI and Thorin, and before I ever intended on watching it, I accidently got some MAJOR spoilers. So I'm procrastinating on watching The Battle of the Five armies, because I really don't want to see them die... But that's just me, the major-league fangirl.

And I love Thranduil. Lee Pace does such a good job acting! (And Legolas, you really can't forget Legolas..) And come to think of it, now that we're discussing pronunciation of Elvish names, I think I pronounce Legolas wrong by Elvish terms. Does Leh-go-las sound right to you? In Elvish I think it would be Leh-gaw-lahs.. Oh well...

I loved the Hobbit book, the movies not so much. They fell short of the originals imo. Thranduil was great though, the actors voice was fantastic. I'd go ahead and watch that movie if you haven't. I didn't particularly like the KilI - Tauriel arc.

As for the pronunciation, here is it sounded out:
How to pronounce Legolas : Pronunciation of Legolas

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of KilixTauriel... Tauriel was okay, but she was kinda out of place imo. The LegolasxTaurielxKilI bit wasn't all that great from what I've watched in the movies so far.

I didn't read the hobbit actually, just saw the movies which judging by all the hate they got were far better if you didn't know what it was adapted from, haha. Even without knowing the source material I could tell that match-up was not originally in the book, it was so forced and made absolutely no sense. And was super annoying.
I did like the movies though I don't understand how the production quality and especially the CGI was so much worse than the rings trilogy... which was made more than a decade before...

 

I am too, I haven’t learned the actually language but I’ve been working on elvish grammar and found how to translate letters to elvish runes (back of the book in the appendix, you should check it out)

 

I don't know why I didn't get a notification from this... or maybe I did and didn't notice.

I don't really like aragorn's speech at the black gate that much tbh, which is sort of the opposite of Theoden's (somehow I just can't see it working realistically, it would put your army down instead of riling it up...)

Theoden's speech is definitely the best moment imo. Much more goosebumps than other moments.

Hmmm intersting! That symbol on top of the e exists in two completely different functions in my language, so could have two really different readings... it's either an umlaut (inherited from old Germanic tongues) where it indicates the pronunciation of the e sort of bleeds over into the sound of the consonant that comes after it, which doesn't really work in that word because there is no consonant after it. The other one is called a trema, which is what you meant I think, but that also doesn't work here because it is used to indicate you need to pause between vowels rather than pronounce them as one (we put one on the first e in coefficient for instance, because 'oe' is an existing vowel combination pronounced similar to the oo in pool; so that you know to pronounce it instead as co-efficient). So I think you should probably just pronounce it as you would naturally do an 'e' at the end of a word?
=# I'm a linguistics nerd.

Interesting. I just looked up how to pronounce it in Elvish and looked at how people advised to do so. That's where the quoted part of my answer came from, they said the e in men should be used if I remember right.

I didn't read the hobbit actually, just saw the movies which judging by all the hate they got were far better if you didn't know what it was adapted from, haha. Even without knowing the source material I could tell that match-up was not originally in the book, it was so forced and made absolutely no sense. And was super annoying.
I did like the movies though I don't understand how the production quality and especially the CGI was so much worse than the rings trilogy... which was made more than a decade before...

The more cartoony visuals in the hobbit got me. Much less "realistic" looking and just didn't feel right. The movies weren't all bad, there were good moments. I just wasn't too much of a fan, especially when you take LOTR into account.

 

The more cartoony visuals in the hobbit got me. Much less "realistic" looking and just didn't feel right. The movies weren't all bad, there were good moments. I just wasn't too much of a fan, especially when you take LOTR into account.

This. Definitely not saying they were as good as LOTR (because that is in a class of its own) but I don't think it deserved all the hate it got. As in people did not have a single good thing to say about it. It really wasn't that bad, amusing enough and I really liked Martin Freeman as Bilbo, perfect choice! (Though I still have trouble not constantly thinking of Watson when I see him hahaha)

 

They flopped on the hobbit move, I loved the book, but where the heck did they get the turell lady? And Legolas wasn’t even supposed to be there! Then on top of that KilI falls in love with an elf (who was creepy and not even supposed to be there), gets shot by a poison arrow (that didn’t happen). They took a lot of the meaning of the story out in the movie, it was less moving. They made thorins death so pointless too (and azog wasn’t supposed to be there either).

 

One of the monks at my college is fluent in Klingon and Elvish, but also knows some Dwarvish.

I love to binge watch the extended LOTR while I’m studying for finals...keeps me awake and the music is very motivating.

I feel like the Hobbit trilogy would have been better as just two films without the added extra stuff. The pacing is weird with all of the stretching that needed done to get it to three.

 

One of the monks at my college is fluent in Klingon and Elvish, but also knows some Dwarvish.

I love to binge watch the extended LOTR while I’m studying for finals...keeps me awake and the music is very motivating.

I feel like the Hobbit trilogy would have been better as just two films without the added extra stuff. The pacing is weird with all of the stretching that needed done to get it to three.

Yea, I have been sick and just got through watching the trilogy again. I love the extended edition, it’s so much better.

 

I've read the books multiple times over the last 45 years, and watched the movies once. I was disappointed that they left Tom Bombadil out of LOTR, and I thought the elf - dwarf romance in The Hobbit was ridiculous.

 

I've read the books multiple times over the last 45 years, and watched the movies once. I was disappointed that they left Tom Bombadil out of LOTR, and I thought the elf - dwarf romance in The Hobbit was ridiculous.

Yea, to be blunt, just watched the hobbit again and it was stupid... they should have actually followed the book instead of using a book to help create a movie.

The Lord of the Rings is much better, but they needed to have Tom bombadil, Glorfindel and quick beam.

Throwing Arwen in instead of Glorfindel was ridiculous.

 

I've read the books multiple times over the last 45 years, and watched the movies once. I was disappointed that they left Tom Bombadil out of LOTR, and I thought the elf - dwarf romance in The Hobbit was ridiculous.

I think they left Tom Bombadil out.. well aside from the obvious "they had to cut something for time".. but to save themselves all the 'eagles could've solved everything' criticism but with him instead. Not that makes sense if you actually read the book but the movie audience was rather different from the book audience.

I recently watched the non-extended version for the first time since I originally saw them, as I always watch the extended ones. But I have a friend that had never seen (or read) them and he wanted to marathon them with me in one go. So the non-extended ones seemed a bit more doable for that.
Boy, did I spent a lot of time complaining every time I was expecting a scene only to find they had cut it. Some I get, but others just straight up make no sense. Like at the very end when they cut the very scene (and that saves what, 2 minutes at most?) where that guy with the scary teeth takes out the mithril shirt that makes the fellowship believe that Frodo is dead. Cutting that changes the entire meaning of the final charge from "they are still hopeful and trying to divert attention/buy Frodo time" to "everything is lost and they ride towards essentially certain death without faltering". What? That was bizarre. How does cutting that make any sense?
*cough* my friend now knows all the differences between the standard and extended version, hahaha. (Also the things that are only in the book).
... I'm kind of embarrassed to admit I know the trilogy so well that even not having the movies for two years prior to this marathon, I still knew all the lines and recognised immediately which scenes were cut...

 

I think they left Tom Bombadil out.. well aside from the obvious "they had to cut something for time".. but to save themselves all the 'eagles could've solved everything' criticism but with him instead. Not that makes sense if you actually read the book but the movie audience was rather different from the book audience.

I recently watched the non-extended version for the first time since I originally saw them, as I always watch the extended ones. But I have a friend that had never seen (or read) them and he wanted to marathon them with me in one go. So the non-extended ones seemed a bit more doable for that.
Boy, did I spent a lot of time complaining every time I was expecting a scene only to find they had cut it. Some I get, but others just straight up make no sense. Like at the very end when they cut the very scene (and that saves what, 2 minutes at most?) where that guy with the scary teeth takes out the mithril shirt that makes the fellowship believe that Frodo is dead. Cutting that changes the entire meaning of the final charge from "they are still hopeful and trying to divert attention/buy Frodo time" to "everything is lost and they ride towards essentially certain death without faltering". What? That was bizarre. How does cutting that make any sense?
*cough* my friend now knows all the differences between the standard and extended version, hahaha. (Also the things that are only in the book).
... I'm kind of embarrassed to admit I know the trilogy so well that even not having the movies for two years prior to this marathon, I still knew all the lines and recognised immediately which scenes were cut...

I do the exact same thing when I see the theatrical version, it just makes me realize how much I appreciate the extended.

Tom bombadil wouldn’t save them, because even though he was basically immune to the powers of the ring, he wouldn’t be the sort of fellow who would go take the ring to Mordor. Plus, he wasn’t a warrior or exactly a wizard so he wouldn’t do much good in the battles (that is just not his forte). Tom bombadil is more of a jolly fellow who is more entertaining and plays a roll in them getting through the old forest. He wasn’t really essential for the main point of the plot (probably why they left him out). I still very much wish he would have been there, he had such a good roll.

 

I do the exact same thing when I see the theatrical version, it just makes me realize how much I appreciate the extended.

Tom bombadil wouldn’t save them, because even though he was basically immune to the powers of the ring, he wouldn’t be the sort of fellow who would go take the ring to Mordor. Plus, he wasn’t a warrior or exactly a wizard so he wouldn’t do much good in the battles (that is just not his forte). Tom bombadil is more of a jolly fellow who is more entertaining and plays a roll in them getting through the old forest. He wasn’t really essential for the main point of the plot (probably why they left him out). I still very much wish he would have been there, he had such a good roll.

Yes, well, that's why I said that explanation is enough for the readers of the book, but the mainstream film audience not so much I think ("But he's like superpowerful, would only take him like 5 minutes dude?!?!"). Or so it seemed to me (the part where Frodo asks why they don't just give him the ring and - I think gandalf? - the answer is that he'd probably get distracted, put it down somewhere and forget all about it - that always brings a smile to my face).