30 Gallon Tank Is a sump mandatory?

SidTheAquarist
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I have a fresh water 30 gallon tank (Boyu EA 100). I want to convert it to a salt water tank.

The tank size is:
38.5 inch Length x 18 inch Height x 12 inch Width

Someone suggested that this is a small size so a sump would not be needed. A 150gph canister filter (SunSun or Ehiem) should be fine along with an under gravel filter.

Also enclosed is the picture of my setup with cupboard dimensions.

My two questions are :
1. Is a sump really needed, can a canister filter do the job ?
2. Is the cupoard space (24 cm high x 84 cm long x 24 cm deep) reasonable for a suitable sump ?

Many thanks for any suggestions.

Regards,
Sid
 

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david1978
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Ditch the canister. They are a nitrate factory unless you stay right on top of it. Convert an aquaclear hob to your needs. You will be way ahead of the game.
 
saltwater60
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An sump is not mandatory and I agree ditch the canister and under gravel filter. They are bad for saltwater tanks.

To help us more what is your plan with this tank. If you’re going reef a sump would be highly recommend.
 
AZL
  • #4
I agree with the above, under gravel filter is really not ideal for marine and canister isn't much better. I would strongly advise a sump but it isn't mandatory - have a look at the Berlin method.
 
SidTheAquarist
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Ditch the canister. They are a nitrate factory unless you stay right on top of it. Convert an aquaclear hob to your needs. You will be way ahead of the game.
Thanks.
I checked on the AC70 and the Tidal55. Looking out for a thin one and read that one which have impeller in the talk have less maintenance issues and are more silent. Researching on this matter.
 
SidTheAquarist
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  • #6
An sump is not mandatory and I agree ditch the canister and under gravel filter. They are bad for saltwater tanks.

To help us more what is your plan with this tank. If you’re going reef a sump would be highly recommend.
Thanks.
I will not go for a reef tank (atleast for a few years).
Plan is to:
1. Put in red sea as the salt.
2. Coral sand as the substrate.
3. Dead rock scape for hiding places.
4. Two clown fish to start with.
5. After 2 months paehaps add 2 more fish.
6. After one more month, add a bubble tip anemone for the clowns.

Please let me know if all this seems possible with a hang in back filter (i.e. no sump).
 
SidTheAquarist
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  • #7
I agree with the above, under gravel filter is really not ideal for marine and canister isn't much better. I would strongly advise a sump but it isn't mandatory - have a look at the Berlin method.
Thanks.
Just read about the Berlin method. Very nice.
However I would not like to go in for a reef tank soon, so want to delay the sump.

I realize sump is always the way to go. However my current constraint is that the cabinet below the aquarium has a shelf in between that limits the height to a mere 24cm, which I believe is less for a practical sump.

So, if I have to eventually go in for a sump, I will have to replace the whole cabinet and install the sump inside it. This is a big expense, so evaluating options and seeking guidance.
 
david1978
  • #8
The media box is similar in both the tidal and aquaclear filters. And yes the difference is were the motor is located.
 
SidTheAquarist
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
The media box is similar in both the tidal and aquaclear filters. And yes the difference is were the motor is located.
Sure. Thanks.
 

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