Interested In Getting A 500 - 1000 Gallon Pond

FishWithTim
  • #1
So I am highly interested in having a 500 - 1000 gallon preformed koi pond. However I am looking for a breed of koi that pushes no more than 12-16 inches? Maybe 20? I don't know much about koi. I really hope their is a breed that meets this characteristics.
 
BottomDweller
  • #2
Tbh I don't think there is. There is a lot of disagreement on the minimum pond size for koi. Some say 200 gallons, some say 1000 gallons and others say 2000 gallons. I have a 1600 gallon pond and probably won't be getting any koi though I have wanted one for years. Please go and look at some koi ponds in real life before making a decision. I was going to get some koi because based on what I'd read they would be fine in my pond however after visiting a few ponds and seeing how much space even small koi take up when swimming I decided against it.

There are certainly some types that tend to grow larger than others (such as chagois) but all healthy koi can grow massive.

If you really really want koi I would try to get a much bigger pond if possible or get some very small koi and use your pond as a grow out before selling them to someone with a bigger pond.
 
Sarah73
  • #3
Like a 24,000 gallon pond! That's in my swimming pool but I'm slowly changing from it being a pool into a fish pond.
 
emmysjj
  • #4
KinsKicks I know you do koi
 
Rtessy
  • #5
Common goldfish push 12-16 inches... (12 is more average I believe) as do shubunkin and comets, if you wanted a little variety...
That being said, the lowest I've heard for koi is 500 each, and the one I hear most is 1000 each.
 
FishWithTim
  • Thread Starter
  • #6
However domestic koi only get to 12-15 inches and I am not looking for top notch million dollar koi that get to 36 inches. I also read on a koi breeders website that I could have 4 or less domestic koi in a 1000 gallon pond. That fits my exact criteria.
 
BottomDweller
  • #7
However domestic koi only get to 12-15 inches and I am not looking for top notch million dollar koi that get to 36 inches. I also read on a koi breeders website that I could have 4 or less domestic koi in a 1000 gallon pond. That fits my exact criteria.
I've never heard of that. A healthy koi will grow larger than 15 inches.
 
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Sarah73
  • #8
There are different kinds of koi. Depends on how big and how much you wanna pay for one. I would say to either get one koi by itself or get goldfish with white cloud minnows.
 
FishWithTim
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
Domestic koi guys look it up. 12-15 inches. I'd include links of multiple resources but I am sure a moderator might take them down. Happend to me with a picture. But here you is one website and if you want ask and I can include some more.

Link: https://www.koiacres.com/koi/faq.html
 
FishWithTim
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
Look guys I don't want to argue with a bunch of people. We all have are different perspectives and facts on things however still read the link I included in my previous reply on this thread. Also I have been doing a ton of research and its said that it takes koi 10 years to reach maxium size. Of I was to get the small koi they have in tank at petsmart or petco as my first couple koi and raise them. If they were to get to big where would I give them? Because it always boggles my mind. How do people raise fish and then find a place to give them when they get to big for them? I see people do it all the time.
 
Sarah73
  • #11
Look guys I don't want to argue with a bunch of people. We all have are different perspectives and facts on things however still read the link I included in my previous reply on this thread. Also I have been doing a ton of research and its said that it takes koi 10 years to reach maxium size. Of I was to get the small koi they have in tank at petsmart or petco as my first couple koi and raise them. If they were to get to big where would I give them? Because it always boggles my mind. How do people raise fish and then find a place to give them when they get to big for them? I see people do it all the time.
Well they would rather be what's better for the fish than be selfish.
 
FishWithTim
  • Thread Starter
  • #12
Well they would rather be what's better for the fish than be selfish.
I'm not catching on to what you just said. Could you explain more in deph please?
 
Sarah73
  • #13
I'm not catching on to what you just said. Could you explain more in deph please?
You said, "If they were to get to big where would I give them? Because it always boggles my mind. How do people raise fish and then find a place to give them when they get to big for them?" I'm saying that people are willing to give there fish to someone else who can take care of them in order for the fish to be happy.
 
FishWithTim
  • Thread Starter
  • #14
You said, "If they were to get to big where would I give them? Because it always boggles my mind. How do people raise fish and then find a place to give them when they get to big for them?" I'm saying that people are willing to give there fish to someone else who can take care of them in order for the fish to be happy.
Oh ok. But I was also basically asking how would I find a new home for fish that got to big for me to keep?
 
Sarah73
  • #15
Oh ok. But I was also basically asking how would I find a new home for fish that got to big for me to keep?
Friends or family usually have ponds or something bigger. If not then give the fish to someone who you trust.
 
FishWithTim
  • Thread Starter
  • #16
Ok so! I have come to an answer to my question. Let me know if its good and correct or not. So! If I was to purchase the small koi found in tanks at petco or petsmart and raise them in a 1000 gallon pond would that be ok? I'd probably keep them for 3 years since it takes 10 years for koi to reach maximum length.
 
emmysjj
  • #17
With all due respect, why don't you just avoid koi if you are going to give them away? If I did that I wouldn't be able to give them up after 3 years...
 
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Sarah73
  • #18
Ok so! I have come to an answer to my question. Let me know if its good and correct or not. So! If I was to purchase the small koi found in tanks at petco or petsmart and raise them in a 1000 gallon pond would that be ok? I'd probably keep them for 3 years since it takes 10 years for koi to reach maximum length.
Yes, sir. I think one koi can completely grow happy in your pond though.
 
FishWithTim
  • Thread Starter
  • #19
Yes, sir. I think one koi can completely grow happy in your pond though.
Why one? Have you seen how small the koi are in the tanks at petco and petsmart? I'm pretty sure I could have more than one. Like 4. 3 minimum. Plus if these koi end being domestic I might be able to keep them.
 
FishWithTim
  • Thread Starter
  • #20
With all due respect, why don't you just avoid koi if you are going to give them away? If I did that I wouldn't be able to give them up after 3 years...
I can't avoid them I'm addicted. Also a lot can happen in 3 years let alone 1 year. For all I know in 3 years I could get a bigger pond.
 
Sarah73
  • #21
Why one? Have you seen how small the koi are in the tanks at petco and petsmart? I'm pretty sure I could have more than one. Like 4. 3 minimum. Plus if these koi end being domestic I might be able to keep them.
I don't know the kind of koi your getting. Some get three feet, so.
 
Biev
  • #22
Why one? Have you seen how small the koi are in the tanks at petco and petsmart? I'm pretty sure I could have more than one. Like 4. 3 minimum. Plus if these koi end being domestic I might be able to keep them.

She means one could live happily in your pond for its entire life.
 
FishWithTim
  • Thread Starter
  • #23
She means one could live happily in your pond for its entire life.
The thing is I want to raise them. I want to get 3 or 4 baby koi in a 1000 gallon pond which is ok. It takes 10 years for koi to reach maximum size so I could keep them for about 3 perfectly fine. Then if I don't get a bigger pond during that 3 year duration I give them away to a good home.
 
FishWithTim
  • Thread Starter
  • #24
I don't know the kind of koi your getting. Some get three feet, so.
I am interested in raising them. Koi take 10 years to reach maximum size so I could keep 3 or 4 babys for about 3 years before I need to give them away to a good home.
 
Smalltownfishfriend
  • #25
If I were you I would find a home to give them before you get them.. just so you have a plan in place! For me, I don't know of any one who would take them so it would make me nervous to have fish I can't keep without a backup plan in place!!!
 
Biev
  • #26
The thing is I want to raise them. I want to get 3 or 4 baby koi in a 1000 gallon pond which is ok. It takes 10 years for koi to reach maximum size so I could keep them for about 3 perfectly fine. Then if I don't get a bigger pond during that 3 year duration I give them away to a good home.

Yes, we all understand your plan. You've made it perfectly clear. I, and everyone who has commented so far, just think you shouldn't choose a pet that you're not prepared to care for for the entire duration of its life. So if you do choose to go ahead with that pet, then we are all of the opinion that you should provide it with the environment that it will need to live out its entire life happily. I'm not sure what more you want to hear. You don't need our blessing to go through with your plan, and you seem to have made up your mind. The conversation is going in circles at this point.
 

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