Inter Breeding Of Fish.

grump299
  • #1
I need some of info on breeding. Can or will fish interbreed with other breeds out side there own breed. I am not sure if they can/do. Like will or could a balla shark breed with a blue ram or any other breed of fish. Just wondering not trying to do it my wife asked me at supper and got me thinking.
 
jacob thompson
  • #2
Bala sharks can only breed with other bala sharks or bala shark color morphs I don’t believe their is anothe species in that genus for them to interbreed. Blue rams on the other hange can breed with german blue rams, electric blue rams(color morph), gold rams, and possibly Bolivian rams(not 100% about this). If the fish is if he same species and just another color variety they can breed, they are still reproductively the same.
 
Discus-Tang
  • #3
Fish can usually only interbreed with fish from the same genus.
 
goldface
  • #5
Yes, a bala shark can totally breed with a ram. I’ve seen it happen! Actually, if I’m not mistaken, the mixed breed is called ramshark.
 
grump299
  • Thread Starter
  • #6
Yes, a bala shark can totally breed with a ram. I’ve seen it happen! Actually, if I’m not mistaken, the mixed breed is called ramshark.
Lol funny guy I just used bala and ram cause that was the two I seen while I was writing the post.
 
goldface
  • #7
Lol funny guy I just used bala and ram cause that was the two I seen while I was writing the post.
I’m not sure what you’re saying. We have catfish, dogfish, angelfish. A ramshark is very possible.
 
aussieJJDude
  • #8
First thing to clear up, breed refers to a individual (or a group of individuals) that express a different trait. Species on the other hand refers to a collection of the 'same animals' regardless of different traits they may have.

For example, you can have different breeds of dogs and cats, but there's really only two species available, canis lupus familiaris (for a dog) and Felis catus.

What your asking for is if you can breed different species of fish together. Short answer, yes and no.



Closely related fish - in a vast majority of the cases - can interbreed with eachother to produce viable - and in a lot of cases, fertile - offspring. However fish species that's often separated by large differences geographically tend not to be able to crossbreed. Like others said, often fish in the same genus tend to be able to crossbreed.

Good examples of these are platies, swordtails and mollies - which I read that a lot of the colour morphs of these fish was to crossbreed within their genus - as well as many cichlids, such as the peacocks from lake Malawi, or many from central America, which is believed to be the ancestral crosses of the parrot cichlids, as well as others like angels, discus and to a degree, the dwarf apistogrammma.

Another great example is the cross between male guppy and female molly. This cross tends to be sterile, but will not occur in reverse to the the resulting fry being a little too large for the female guppy.

Ornamental shrimp is another example, where similar related species can interbreed.
 
chromedome52
  • #9
Blue rams on the other hand can breed with german blue rams, electric blue rams(color morph), gold rams, and possibly Bolivian rams(not 100% about this). If the fish is if he same species and just another color variety they can breed, they are still reproductively the same.

Blue Rams and German Blue Rams are two names for the same variety. Golds and Electric Blues are color varieties of the same species as the Blue Ram, but the Bolivian is a different species. Even though it is in the same genus, their geographic separation has resulted in species that are genetically incompatible.

Good examples of these are platies, swordtails and - which I read that a lot of the colour morphs of these fish was to crossbreed within their genus - as well as many cichlids, such as the peacocks from lake Malawi, or many from central America, which is believed to be the ancestral crosses of the parrot cichlids, as well as others like angels, discus and to a degree, the dwarf apistogrammma.

Platies and Swordtails are in the same Genus, but Mollies are not. However, some aquarium strains of Mollies often involve the interbreeding of two or more species of Mollies, of which there are several. Genus is not a limitation to hybridization, however. Nearly all of the Cichlids in Lake MalawI are capable of crossing with one another. The situation has to be just right when they are very different, but I've seen Pseudotropheus livingstoneI and Dimidiochromis compressiceps produce viable fry. Apistogramma apparently don't hybridize, I've never seen any reports of such hybrids, ever. I would have to double check, but I think there are habitats in the wild that contain two or more species of Apisto, so it would be a wise evolutionary development to not interbreed readily.

Predicting what species may or may not hybridize really does not follow any set rules, though there are generalizations. But crosses between families don't seem to be possible, and across different orders would be ridiculous. Like a Ramshark. Or a Neowana.
 
Gypsy13
  • #10
Yes, a bala shark can totally breed with a ram. I’ve seen it happen! Actually, if I’m not mistaken, the mixed breed is called ramshark.

I love you!

First thing to clear up, breed refers to a individual (or a group of individuals) that express a different trait. Species on the other hand refers to a collection of the 'same animals' regardless of different traits they may have.

For example, you can have different breeds of dogs and cats, but there's really only two species available, canis lupus familiaris (for a dog) and Felis catus.

What your asking for is if you can breed different species of fish together. Short answer, yes and no.



Closely related fish - in a vast majority of the cases - can interbreed with eachother to produce viable - and in a lot of cases, fertile - offspring. However fish species that's often separated by large differences geographically tend not to be able to crossbreed. Like others said, often fish in the same genus tend to be able to crossbreed.

Good examples of these are platies, swordtails and mollies - which I read that a lot of the colour morphs of these fish was to crossbreed within their genus - as well as many cichlids, such as the peacocks from lake Malawi, or many from central America, which is believed to be the ancestral crosses of the parrot cichlids, as well as others like angels, discus and to a degree, the dwarf apistogrammma.

Another great example is the cross between male guppy and female molly. This cross tends to be sterile, but will not occur in reverse to the the resulting fry being a little too large for the female guppy.

Ornamental shrimp is another example, where similar related species can interbreed.

Thank you! If I’d heard interbreeding one more time I’d have blown a gasket!
 
aussieJJDude
  • #12
chromedome52, I mentioned that they hybridise within their own genus, but yeah, thanks for the clarity of mentioning that mollies aren't in the same genus - I was referring within their own genus...
I swear I have heard of apistos hybridising, but yeah I've never seen the resulting fry...
 
grump299
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
Thank you everyone for the information like I said in the beginning I’m not trying this but my wife asked me if they can at supper and I wasn’t 100% sure of the answer. Now I know and I can pass it on to her.
 
Dch48
  • #14
Yes, a bala shark can totally breed with a ram. I’ve seen it happen! Actually, if I’m not mistaken, the mixed breed is called ramshark.
Yes the process is very unusual. The male Ram has to fertilize the eggs from within the Shark's stomach and they usually only get to do it once. It's similar to marriage between humans. Getting in is easy, getting out is much harder.

Hey, if we can have a Sharktopus and a Piranhaconda, a Ramshark shouldn't be that far fetched.
 

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