Indian Fire Barbs?? Mislabeled fish?

Okay, so I picked these two lovelies up from my LFS, they had them labelled as "Indian Fire Barbs" (In the same tank were some "Long Finned Fire Barbs"). I cannot find any information online on them. If I search "Indian Fire Barb" I get a lot of information about Indian barbers using fire.... If I search "fire barb" I get information on African banded barbs, which these definitely aren't. The only thing I can think is that they're female and/or golden rosy barbs, but then why were they labelled differently - what do you guys think? Are Indian fire barbs a thing? Are these rosy barbs?







They're super active, and spend most of their time zooming around the tank, which made it hard to get a good picture.
They are about 2 1/2 to 3 inches long, and about 1 inch "tall", about the same size as my black ruby barbs. Their dots on their tails are very distinct and their fins are all quite pale, though the one has a small red tint. They also have these like dots above their eyes (like tiny eyebrows)


(And before anyone comes at me about my stocking - I have two of these, two of the black ruby barbs, and one black long skirt tetra that all school together fairly well. The two black rubies were the only ones left at my LFS at the time. The tetra is a leftover from a previous school/tank and I just don't want any more and am letting him just chill (He is in the 2nd picture lol). I bought 3 of the indians to try them out, and because I already had the other three. I would love more, but the one indian died from an internal parasite, and I don't feel like treating more. It works)

So what are these fish?

 

Looks like a gold morph rosy barb

 

Looks like a gold morph rosy barb

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too... but then why label them as Indian Fire Barbs?

 

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too... but then why label them as Indian Fire Barbs?

It's likely a "common" name, different locales call fish by different names. It get's way too confusing.

 

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too... but then why label them as Indian Fire Barbs?

Marketability.

 

It's likely a "common" name, different locales call fish by different names. It get's way too confusing.

I feel like Rosy barb would’ve been more common but yeah really

Marketability.

But like how’s that gonna sell more than calling them gold rosy barbs? Like with the rams and stuff it’s always gold ram or gold German ram or electric blue ram, y’know, stuff that’s actually descriptive and applicable. Oh well, people are weird.

Thanks guys!

 

A long, long time ago there was an unscrupulous supplier who sold Cyprinella lutrensis as Indian Fire Barbs. In this country, they are better known as Red Horse Minnows. (Used to be in genus Notropis.) Yes, he was selling native minnows as a fancy foreign tropical. As I said, unscrupulous.

Marketing is always going to come up with a more exciting name, and they often change the common names of fish that have become "old hat" to try and revive the market. This is why science uses scientific nomenclature. Even though these can change as well, they do so under a set of rules, and old names can always be used to find the new names, or vice versa.

 

A long, long time ago there was an unscrupulous supplier who sold Cyprinella lutrensis as Indian Fire Barbs. In this country, they are better known as Red Horse Minnows. (Used to be in genus Notropis.) Yes, he was selling native minnows as a fancy foreign tropical. As I said, unscrupulous.

Marketing is always going to come up with a more exciting name, and they often change the common names of fish that have become "old hat" to try and revive the market. This is why science uses scientific nomenclature. Even though these can change as well, they do so under a set of rules, and old names can always be used to find the new names, or vice versa.

Yeah I know all about why we use scientific names... I had a whole unit on taxonomy this past semester in my structure and function class.

I'm just saying, it's already an interesting color morph