10 Gallon Tank Inactive Ember Tetras?

AltVzn
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I just got 7 ember tetras with my betta, at first my betta chases them around and all, but now he doesn't give a care in the world for them. Just curious (though they still swim away)

So, after setting up all the aquarium and adding the ember tetras, they were pretty active. But after all that work I got tired and fell asleep (it was night time for the aquarium so all lights were off).

When I woke up, I quickly went to check the ember tetras to see if my betta committed mass murder. So far, he's just swimming where ever passing inactive ember tetras? The tetras would sometimes swim away when he got too close

They're also pale, like pale when I first released them into the tank; barely any orange at all

Please don't mind me as I sound really dumb (I'm really new to tetras); do they sleep? Or are they sick?

They're scatted all over the place, some at bottom of the aquarium; some under plants and decor; and some staying still mid level

Has anyone had any similar experiences with tetras? Specifically ember tetras?
 

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MacZ
  • #2
The paleness might be a problem, then on the other hand you just added them. They will colour up within the next days.

The positioning is very typical for shoaling tetras. They usually have their spots I call parking positions and just stay there floating, when not foraging for food or interacting with each other. They keep a distance of about 5-10 cm to each other depending on numbers and actual space and will chase each other if they enter the little territories. As soon as there is a thread or feeding time these positions will be abandoned and as soon as everything has calmed down they will take position again.
 

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AltVzn
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The paleness might be a problem, then on the other hand you just added them. They will colour up within the next days.

The positioning is very typical for shoaling tetras. They usually have their spots I call parking positions and just stay there floating, when not foraging for food or interacting with each other. They keep a distance of about 5-10 cm to each other depending on numbers and actual space and will chase each other if they enter the little territories. As soon as there is a thread or feeding time these positions will be abandoned and as soon as everything has calmed down they will take position again.
Ohhh thank you!
I's also like to ask, some of them have their heads tilted down and they're a bit side ways? Like this: \ or /

They're not exactly straight up and down, but they look like those symbols a bit. Is that good or bad? Some are just floating getting carried a bit by the current
 
MacZ
  • #4
Are they actually in such an extreme angle? A slight tilt head down is common among tetras, but if they're in a really extreme angle this can be a sign of something wrong.

Can you take a picture?
 
AltVzn
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  • #5
Are they actually in such an extreme angle? A slight tilt head down is common among tetras, but if they're in a really extreme angle this can be a sign of something wrong.

Can you take a picture?
I don't think they are

Here:

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MacZ
  • #6
No worries, looks perfectly fine.
 

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AltVzn
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Flyfisha
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You had 1 fish in the tank and now there is 11? Is that right?

Keep a close eye on the water parameters for a fortnight as well as doing a couple of extra temperature matched conditioned water changes . It’s likely the bacteria will have trouble keeping up with a jump in bio load like that?
Ammonia is the first concern. It may only take 12 hours to climb?
 
AltVzn
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
You had 1 fish in the tank and now there is 11? Is that right?

Keep a close eye on the water parameters for a fortnight as well as doing a couple of extra temperature matched conditioned water changes . It’s likely the bacteria will have trouble keeping up with a jump in bio load like that?
Ammonia is the first concern. It may only take 12 hours to climb?
Now I'm kinda afraid, what do you mean 11 fish? My tank consists of:
1 [Male] Twin-tail Half-moon Betta
2 Mystery Snails
1 Nerite Snail
7 Ember Tetras

I put in the snails first, after 5 days (in which the tank was stable again), I added my betta, Ryuu.

After 7 days, which was yesterday, my tank stabilized again, in which I added the 7 ember tetras.

I was planning on adding only 3 at a time, but someone said I could add 6 pygmy corys all at once (as they're so small they barely make any ammonia), so I figured I could put 7 at a time since theyre also smaller

Even more, I thought putting all 7 at once will help with my betta's aggression (as he's less likely to single out one tetra)

Is 7 tetras at once too much?

Edit: OOPS- I just went back and checked... I don't why my fingers typed out 10... I meant 7, is 7 too much tho? Is my tank overstocked? If possible, can I add shrimp in the future? Like an amano or ghost?
 
Flyfisha
  • #10
It’s ok adding many fish at once . You will need to do extra water changes as the bacteria grows. It’s called a mini cycle. Nothing to worry about.

7 or 10 it makes little difference. The point is the bacteria are not ready for the fish to breathe out ammonia. To sweat ammonia and to poop ammonia
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AltVzn
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It’s ok adding many fish at once . You will need to do extra water changes as the bacteria grows. It’s called a mini cycle. Nothing to worry about.

7 or 10 it makes little difference. The point is the bacteria are not ready for the fish to breathe out ammonia. To sweet ammonia and to poop ammonia View attachment 747292
Ohh~ ic, I hope all goes well XDD

And yeah~ I edited my reply I don't know if I edited it in time but I noticed I put 10, I don't know what my mind was thinking XDDD
 
NoahLikesFish
  • #12
They might be stressed
 
AltVzn
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  • #13
They might be stressed
I hope they're just sleeping; I did more research and it seems that they're sleeping

but they're probably also stressed as I just get them (hasn't been 24hrs)

I'll just keep watch and see what happens
 
Ryngwrayth
  • #14
They may also be pale because of their genetics. I have a school of 8 in my tank and three came from one place and the other from another and on purchase day, one group was brighter. That has remained the case now months down the line. All eating the same varied diet. Some are super intensely orange and others are paler.
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AltVzn
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They may also be pale because of their genetics. I have a school of 8 in my tank and three came from one place and the other from another and on purchase day, one group was brighter. That has remained the case now months down the line. All eating the same varied diet. Some are super intensely orange and others are paler. View attachment 748569
Oh, that's cool! Mine are now fine, similar in colour too now. I think they were just stressed at the time
 

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