Identifying Assorted Fish

Discussion in 'Fish, Snail, Worm And Pest ID Help' started by Sabit Safwat Rahman, Jun 25, 2019.

  1. Sabit Safwat RahmanNew MemberMember

    I have a few fish from a LFS that I'd like ID'd. I'm looking for a pair of centerpiece fish for a 30G with 2 angelfish(not sure if a pair,been there since wee babies). I know the neon tetras and the pearl gouramis, but dont have positive id's on the rest. if you could ID them like "pic <number>, <description> looking fish is <fish name>", that'd be wonderful.
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  2. coralbanditFishlore VIPMember

    Pic 1,2&3 look like Badis ,pic 4&5 looks like convicts ?
    pic 6 looks like Buenos Aires Tetra ?
    7&8 are electric blue ram
    9 has serape, 10 has black phantom [tetras] .
     
  3. CoptapiaWell Known MemberMember

    1-3 Badis badis
    4-5 albino Convicts
    6 - albino Buenos Aires Tetras (?)
    7-10 standard (?) Blue Ram
     
  4. Anders247Fishlore LegendMember

    I agree with the other's IDs. The one I think they missed was in pics 4 & 5 the orange fish I believe is an mbuna hybrid.
     
  5. Sabit Safwat RahmanNew MemberMember

    out of these, which would be best for a beginner for these fishes and go well with a couple of angelfish in a 30g? I cannot provide live food with any regularity. It's also a gravel tank with no live plants, but I can add amazon swords relatively easily, if needed.
     
  6. CoptapiaWell Known MemberMember

    None. Convicts - too aggressive, Buenos Aires - too cool, Badis - too shy, and Angels might bully/kill them, Ram - too hot.
     
  7. Anders247Fishlore LegendMember

    Out of all those, the black phantom tetras and the rams are most compatible with an angelfish.

    Edit: Rams too hot? Angelfish can be at 80 F.
     
  8. CoptapiaWell Known MemberMember

    There’s a slight overlap (Angels 75-80, Rams 80-90) but it’s the upper limit for Angels (comfort-wise) and the lower limit for Rams.
     
  9. Sabit Safwat RahmanNew MemberMember

    Perhaps I should add that the angels I own have been born and bred in our country for several generations, where the water temperature stays at around 82-84F most of the year, and they have been at around that temperature in my aquarium for a fair while without any issues.
     
  10. Anders247Fishlore LegendMember

    I'd disagree about that. I'd say Angels temp range is 75-82, and rams 78-85. No way I'd keep them around 90 F long term.
     
  11. CoptapiaWell Known MemberMember

    Fair enough. Rams are compatible then.

    @Anders247 Many Ram habitats provide no shade. These Rams commonly live at temperatures that get well above 90. They’re summer temperatures, so I wouldn’t recommend it that warm constantly.
     
  12. Anders247Fishlore LegendMember

    Yeah I get that, which is why say long term. It's just that most fishkeepers don't change the temp of their tanks seasonally. It'd probably be a good idea though, tbh.
     
  13. CoptapiaWell Known MemberMember

    It would be, as the literature gives summer/breeding temperatures for most fish, and so they’re the temperatures people think the fish should be kept at. Which is why cichlids and such breed all the time. It also shortens their lives, slightly.

    Temperatures are approximate, of course. “Angels 75-80” doesn’t mean they’ll suffer at 81... etc.
     
  14. Sabit Safwat RahmanNew MemberMember

    I've eventually decided on a school of Cherry Barbs to be with the angels. I had the temperature at 28C previously, but I've set it at 30 yesterday, and both the angels and the barbs seem much happier at that. How would you explain it, considering cherries are suggested to be kept at 27 and angels at 28/29?

    Edit: The cherries are imported, but the angels are locally bred, if that's any help.
     
  15. CoptapiaWell Known MemberMember

    The range for cherry barbs is (approximately) 20-27. 27 is the upper end (summer/breeding temperature).
    Angels, 24-30. Anything over 27(ish) is again summer temperatures.
    If you’re keeping them at one temperature all the time, which most of us do, somewhere in the middle of their range is best.
     
  16. Sabit Safwat RahmanNew MemberMember

    Need some more fish ID'd...figured I'd just post them here instead of opening a new post. Also... Angelfish compatibility, sexing and sex ratio? Thinking of getting a 55g/75g for the angels in a few months, so if these are compatible, I'll move these over too.
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  17. coralbanditFishlore VIPMember

    No expert at all on those but they look to be Mbuna from Africa ?
    If so they are not compatible with any other fish at all.
     
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2019
  18. Anders247Fishlore LegendMember

    Yeah those aren't compatible with the other fish.
     
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