Ich-X to treat Fin rot too?

BrookeB

Hi everyone! I have a question and I have searched the forums and I haven’t quite found the answer.
I have cardinal tetras in my community tank that have ich and also what appears to be a secondary infection of fin rot. My other fish don’t seem to have it, primarily the tetras. I have been treating my tank with Ich-X as per the instructions (30% water change before every treatment, gravel vac, etc). I am on day three of treatment and I am seeing a significant difference in the reduction of Ich sores.

My question is- will the Ich-X medication also treat the fin rot as well, or should I be prepared with another medication to administer for the fin rot once I have completed the course of Ich-x and the ich disappears? If so, what medication for fin rot?

here are my tank parameters
30 gallon
Ammonia and Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: <5ppm
pH: 7.2 (this may be a little off, should I work on this before trying to add a fin rot medication?)
Current temp: 82 degrees F (usually 79-80 but raises for the ich treatments)

Thanks for your help!
 

86 ssinit

Ok is it ich or something else. Ich is a small white pimple like thing. Is that what you have or is it a white feathery like thing on the fish?
 
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BrookeB

It isn’t a white feathery thing, it looks like white glitter or salt on the fish, primarily on the fins but some on the body
Here is a photo as best as I could take it
 

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86 ssinit

Yep that’s ich! Are these fish new? Looks like new fish. The ich is common with new fish as is the fin rot. Mostly because of the shipping and poor water quality involved. The fin rot should clear up with the water changes. Keep up the ich x as directed and gravel vac when changing water.
 
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BrookeB

Yup! They are new! About two weeks now in my tank, but I discovered the ich about 5-6 days ago. I figured these fish have been battling it for a while because my other fish who have been in the tank for approximately 6+ months appear healthy and strong with no sign of ich or fin rot besides it now being present in my tank

thank you for your response! I will continue with the water changes as I typically do after the ich clears up! I usually do an approx 20% water change with gravel vac and squeezing out the filter in dirty water about once per week!
 
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BrookeB

Yep that’s ich! Are these fish new? Looks like new fish. The ich is common with new fish as is the fin rot. Mostly because of the shipping and poor water quality involved. The fin rot should clear up with the water changes. Keep up the ich x as directed and gravel vac when changing water.

I was wondering if I could bother you with another question!
As an update: the ich in my tank completely cleared up! As of 7/22 I noticed everything was gone and I have not noted any white spots on my tetra since.
however, yesterday my tank got super cloudy. I attributed this to a potential bacteria bloom since my temp was high (around 82) to clear what remaining ich I might not see in the tank, and I have been gradually trying to turn the temp down (but my temp isstill pretty consistent at 78 degrees F). Unfortunately, around this time, one of my sunset Mollys was lethargic, laying in the floor, not eating. Sometimes she was swimming vertically to the top and surfing along the top. Tonight, she died. My other female Molly is totally fine, as well as a few of my other livebearer fish (3 platys, 2 guppies) also seem completely normal. I have been checking my water parameters with the following:
Ammonia-0
Nitrite-0
Nitrate- approx 5ppm
pH is low at 6.4 (I know mollies like it higher)
Temp: 78
32 gallon Fluval Flex with two filters, stocked with 1 Molly (now), 1 pleco, 3 platys, 10 cardinal tetras, 7 zebra danios
I have one rock in there because our tap water isn’t very hard, I also have one natural wood piece. This tank has had fish in it for about 7 months

A few questions: with the cloudy water, did my cycle possibly crash? I haven’t measured any ammonia or nitrites with frequent API master kit testing. I have a significant amount of surface agitation with my pumps (like aggressively putting bubbles into surface) but I don’t have a bubbler in my tank- could this have been low oxygenation? And three- was this my pH being too low? OR do you think this Molly’s death was due to the recent Ich-X administration, even though it was days after my last medication administration? The other Molly seems fine, but I would like to figure this out before I have another casualty.

I appreciate your time in answering my questions, I know a lot of this is a process of elimination, but I feel very confused and I can’t seem to narrow down what issues are concerning and most likely to cause the Molly death. It seems like the more research I do, the more conflicting information I get!
 
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86 ssinit

Hard to guess why the molly died. But because of your water it’s better you stayed away from the live bearers. Stick with tetras and other soft water fish.
Cloudy water sounds like an algae/bacteria bloom. Try adding some filter floss to the filter to clear it up. 78 is a good temp for those fish but most of yours do like 7.0 or harder water. But its tougher to try and change your ph. What is your tap water ph?
 
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BrookeB

I just tested my tap pH and tested my aquarium pH with the MTK again, and my tap is around 7.0 and my aquarium water seemed closer to 6.8 to 7.0 but it was difficult to tell. It has slightly more of a green color so I wouldn’t say it was truly a 7.0 but it seemed fairly close.
This was the tank water
 

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86 ssinit

Ok your ph is fine! And what you have should be fine. Fish die for any strange reason. How often are you changing water and how much?
 
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BrookeB

Oh that is a relief! Well, I was doing a 30% water change every day before each Ich-X treatment per the instructions, but typically I do a 15-20% water change once a week with gravel vac
 
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DoubleDutch

Yep that’s ich! Are these fish new? Looks like new fish. The ich is common with new fish as is the fin rot. Mostly because of the shipping and poor water quality involved. The fin rot should clear up with the water changes. Keep up the ich x as directed and gravel vac when changing water.
Do you see that in that pic ??? Good job.
 
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