I Think I’ve Started A Mini Cycle! Noooooo

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Here is my tank its a 15 gallon 60 litre fluval flex with a modded filter.
 

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Hey man. Total newbie. Is that how you know if cycling is still happening or started? Because my ammonia is low but nitrates high. Still 3 weeks in. Mostly this is my impatience talking.
 
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my tank has been cycled for about 1.5 years got a bit of old tank sydrome or as I like to call it lazy fish keeper syndrome, fixed that think I just added to much bio - load at once I think!

Yes that means your cycle has started, good job! But still not sone yet!
 

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You definitely have something going on with your cycle. Your BN will soon outgrow your tank which i'm sure your aware of. I would do more of an 80% WC personally.
 
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Ok cool
 

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Any idea what boinked your existing cycle?

My causes of a crashed nitrification cycle were tracked down to:
1. Too much water conditioners.
2. Too much ammonia lowering products.
3. Excessive cleaning.
4. Replacing the HOB filter with a new one
5. Junk TopFin or API "beneficial bacteria" product.
 
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I think number 3 and possibly number one may be the suspect.
 

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Truckjohn said:
Any idea what boinked your existing cycle?

My causes of a crashed nitrification cycle were tracked down to:
1. Too much water conditioners.
2. Too much ammonia lowering products.
3. Excessive cleaning.
4. Replacing the HOB filter with a new one
5. Junk TopFin or API "beneficial bacteria" product.
I would say 3-4-5 were the main culprits.
 

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Btw I don’t have a job filter and have never used the bacteria bottles, although I did do a light cleaning of my filter two weeks ago

HoB filter
 

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philyoosays said:
NO! Are you saying that it's always junk or that you can get junk bottles?
Tried both of them twice.

Crashed my nitrogen cycle both times each for a total of 4x by those products....

Let's just say that I have ridden the bad idea rodeo and am long way down the path to figuring out how many different ways I can crash my nitrogen cycle....

Tetra Safe Start Plus or Dr. Tim's are the ones that work.

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I think number 3 and possibly number one may be the suspect.
I have crashed mine 4 or 5 different ways overdosing water conditoner products.... I even managed to crash it at least once with Prime.... You *can* add too much and it will crash....
 

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I use API water conditioner, could that possibly be a suspect?
 

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It's probably fine if you use it according to bottle directions when doing your water changes.

If you super-dose to try to beat down an ammonia or nitrite "spike" it is very possible.

But....

Since your initial suspicion was over-cleaning... what's the possible scenario there?

philyoosays said:
Bummer...
I used Topfin Readistart Nitrifying Bacteria Starter and API Stresszyme+
I honestly don't know if they are the same thing but they say they do different things.
If it cycled and your ammonia and nitrites are fine - then no problems. Good to go.

If you are fighting ammonia shooting up to 3-4 ppm 3 months later - maybe it's a problem....
 

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I believe the Bristlenose Pleco only gets to be
About 4 or 5 inches if I’m not mistaken. I never had a BN pleco before.
 
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As my tank was overstocked I was doing 50-60%WC every week now I do a 50% once a week but I think the filter cleansing could be the main suspect.
 

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Are your nitrites coming back down?
 
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Test results are better didn’t test nitrate yesterday but it was extremely high 40ppm -80ppm
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Ph 6.8 ammonia: 0ppm Nitrite: 0ppm

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nitrate 40ppm - 80ppm (the photo makes it look higher)

Still going to do another Water change today not sure how much as the nitrates are very high,Advice would be appreciated.
 

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Thats pretty normal. Looks like things cycled fine. Off you go - just watch out for overcleaning and such.
 
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