I Need some late cycling help

Nebulene
  • #1
I'll probably have the new tank by like 2 weeks, and will have it cycled idk 8 weeks from today I assume so until then this is what I know:
From my what I know right now, I never had a fully cycled tank, and when adding new fish to my tank i was starting new mini cycles, I know in the near future I will be upgrading to a larger tank, but until then I want to make my fish as happy as I can with what I am available to currently. So in my tank the levels are 0 nitrite, 5.0 nitrate, 0.25 ammonia, and 7.8 pH. I currently am holding 1 angelfish, 2 lyretail black mollies, 2 skirt tetras, all are juvenile. I want to know how I can make the tank as safe as possible for them in the time before I upgrade to a new tank.
Examples of what I mean are:
How many water changes should I do a week/how much?
How often should I feed them to not mess with ammonia too much?
Which water treatments should I get/use?
How to help certain behavior aspects (glass surfing [the two mollies are always glass surfing])
 
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Dunk2
  • #2
I'll probably have the new tank by like 2 weeks, and will have it cycled idk 8 weeks from today I assume so until then this is what I know:
From my what I know right now, I never had a fully cycled tank, and when adding new fish to my tank i was starting new mini cycles, I know in the near future I will be upgrading to a larger tank, but until then I want to make my fish as happy as I can with what I am available to currently. So in my tank the levels are 0 nitrite, 5.0 nitrate, 0.25 ammonia, and 7.8 pH. I currently am holding 1 angelfish, 2 lyretail black mollies, 2 skirt tetras, all are juvenile. I want to know how I can make the tank as safe as possible for them in the time before I upgrade to a new tank.
Examples of what I mean are:
How many water changes should I do a week/how much?
How often should I feed them to not mess with ammonia too much?
Which water treatments should I get/use?
How to help certain behavior aspects (glass surfing [the two mollies are always glass surfing])
The frequency and amount of water you change depends on daily test results.

How often are you changing water now? Were the test results in your post before or after a water change?

For fish-in cycles, I recommend changing enough water to keep the combined level of ammonia and nitrites at or below 0.50 ppm.

Edit to add. . . What water conditioner are you using? I’d recommend Seachem Prime if you’re not already using it.
 
Nebulene
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
The frequency and amount of water you change depends on daily test results.

How often are you changing water now? Were the test results in your post before or after a water change?

For fish-in cycles, I recommend changing enough water to keep the combined level of ammonia and nitrites at or below 0.50 ppm.

Edit to add. . . What water conditioner are you using? I’d recommend Seachem Prime if you’re not already using it.
I did a water change yesterday, 50%, did not do one today and those levels were right before I sent the question.
I'm doing about 2-4 50% water changes a week but it obviously depends on if I see the test results show I should.
I am using AquaSafeplus and Tetra Easy balance currently, I also have plain pH decrease called TopFin.
Forgot to mention my fish are in a 10 gallon tank, with a 10i filter and 100 watt heater
 
Dunk2
  • #4
I did a water change yesterday, 50%, did not do one today and those levels were right before I sent the question.
I'm doing about 2-4 50% water changes a week but it obviously depends on if I see the test results show I should.
I am using AquaSafeplus and Tetra Easy balance currently, I also have plain pH decrease called TopFin.
You’re doing a good job keeping ammonia levels low with water changes!

Why are you decreasing the pH? What is the pH of your source water?

Using chemicals to alter your pH can result in fluctuations that can be harmful to fish.
 
Nebulene
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
Why are you decreasing the pH? What is the pH of your source water?

Using chemicals to alter your pH can result in fluctuations that can be harmful to fish.
Don't remember source water but I know it was fairly high, I keep my tank around 7.6-7.8 pH at all times, so if it gets too high I lower the pH, I don't put in the pH decrease directly to the tank, I change the water and put the pH decrease in the new water then add it to the tank, if I am to put it directly in the tank I put very little per day.
 
CindiL
  • #6
Don't remember source water but I know it was fairly high, I keep my tank around 7.6-7.8 pH at all times, so if it gets too high I lower the pH, I don't put in the pH decrease directly to the tank, I change the water and put the pH decrease in the new water then add it to the tank, if I am to put it directly in the tank I put very little per day.
Hi, welcome to fishlore!
Highly advise to NOT lower your PH at all. Fish will adjust to whatever PH you have and it’s much more important that you have a steady PH then one that fluctuates and you have to decrease from time to time. A PH of 8.2, not sure what yours is, would be just fine.

Also, when you do get the new bigger tank make sure to transfer the whole filter over to it to maintain your cycle that you’re growing in the filter. The majority of the BB resides in your filter media, some on the substrate and decorations.
 
Nebulene
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
Hi, welcome to fishlore!
Highly advise to NOT lower your PH at all. Fish will adjust to whatever PH you have and it’s much more important that you have a steady PH then one that fluctuates and you have to decrease from time to time. A PH of 8.2, not sure what yours is, would be just fine.

Also, when you do get the new bigger tank make sure to transfer the whole filter over to it to maintain your cycle that you’re growing in the filter. The majority of the BB resides in your filter media, some on the substrate and decorations.
I should've clarified more, the pH of my tank itself is almost almost almost always at 7.6, I add the pH decrease to the water I ADD to the tank during water changes until its around 7.6 that's why I said 7.6-7.8 because it won't affect my tanks pH that much if I add it to the tank, that's because the pH of my source water is fairly high.
And thanks for the advice!
 
CindiL
  • #8
I should've clarified more, the pH of my tank itself is almost almost almost always at 7.6, I add the pH decrease to the water I ADD to the tank during water changes until its around 7.6 that's why I said 7.6-7.8 because it won't affect my tanks pH that much if I add it to the tank, that's because the pH of my source water is fairly high.
And thanks for the advice!
I understand that, you still really shouldn’t alter it. What is your source water PH? Every house I’ve been at my source water is 8.2 and my fish do great. What is your concern with your source PH? I understand how you’re adding the decrease but still advisable to leave PH as is. Most people here unless using RO and aiming for a black water low PH tank recommend not trying to alter the PH.
 

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