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HI new here so if I posted this wrong I am sorry, please let me know and ill fix it for the future!

I am setting up my 55 gallon tank(no its not ready yet, yes I am waiting until it cycles etc.)
But I would like some advice on if the selection of fish/invertebrates I want will be to much or just right. I have never had a 55 gallon but just about everything else below that.
(yes I have done my research and have talked to fish experts about the species also.)
LIST OF SPECIES:
ONE, orange dwarf cray fish (about 1 1/2")
ONE, vampire shrimp ( about 6" size)
ONE MAYBE TWO, kuhlI loach( about 4" size)
TWO-THREE, snails(Japanese trap door, nerite) ( about 1" and 3" size)
ONE, blood red eye sword tail (about 4" size)
THREE, platys (about 2 1/2" size)
ONE, blue powder dwarf gouramI (about 3 1/2" size)
THREE, guppies ( about 2" size)
ONE, gold dantoid ( about 1-4" size)
ONE, endler live bearer (about 1" size)
ONE, bleed heart tetra (about 2" size)
ONE, german blue ram (about 2 1/2"size)
ONE, cockatoo cichlid (about 2 1/2" size)
ONE, blue lyretail (about 1 1/2" size)
Might be a little off with sizes was doing it by memory!
ANY ADVICE WILL HELP THANKS!
 

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Well, i'm no expert. But I see some flaws I think.
This is a very big list and a very big mix of very different species.
Tetras are a schooling fish. Keep 6+, not one, please.
Also, Gouramis will be stressed out by the livebearers. Too much activity. Also a GBR. Some fish may attack each other.
 
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oops I didn't mean to put the tetra on this list I want to add that to my tank I have now I have other tetra in.
I never thought that the gouramI would get stressed mine always seemed fine with schooling fast fish maybe because I had a pair of gouramis?
 

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It's not the schooling fish. it's the hyperactive livebearers. I would generally advise against a big mix if 1 of 20 different species. why not just 2 species but 5 to 10 of them? you can have different color platies and guppies and also maybe the snails and the shrimp
 
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Well I defiantly want the loach, cray fish, shrimp and the gouramI and cockatoo. I already have a tank with little species. I want to try to go a little bigger and different with my 55 gallon.

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Well I defiantly want the loach, cray fish, shrimp and the gouramI and cockatoo. I already have a tank with little species. I want to try to go a little bigger and different with my 55 gallon.
I guess ill just try those out at first but get a couple starter fish before them. like a couple guppies or platys.
 

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Starter fish?
Is your tank cycled?
Why would you need starter fish?
 
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No its not done yet and I meant more to make sure the levels stay right when it is fully done. I just like to make extra sure it won't hurt any species that can't handle little changes. I've always done it that way.
 

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Ok, not a bad idea. But will you leave them in afterwards?
 
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Probably not, probably just put them in a different take I have, not really sure though. I still have time to decide.
 

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abil1111 said:
HI new here so if I posted this wrong I am sorry, please let me know and ill fix it for the future!

I am setting up my 55 gallon tank(no its not ready yet, yes I am waiting until it cycles etc.)
But I would like some advice on if the selection of fish/invertebrates I want will be to much or just right. I have never had a 55 gallon but just about everything else below that.
(yes I have done my research and have talked to fish experts about the species also.)
LIST OF SPECIES:
ONE, orange dwarf cray fish (about 1 1/2")
ONE, vampire shrimp ( about 6" size)
ONE MAYBE TWO, kuhlI loach( about 4" size)
TWO-THREE, snails(Japanese trap door, nerite) ( about 1" and 3" size)
ONE, blood red eye sword tail (about 4" size)
THREE, platys (about 2 1/2" size)
ONE, blue powder dwarf gouramI (about 3 1/2" size)
THREE, guppies ( about 2" size)
ONE, gold dantoid ( about 1-4" size)
ONE, endler live bearer (about 1" size)
ONE, bleed heart tetra (about 2" size)
ONE, german blue ram (about 2 1/2"size)
ONE, cockatoo cichlid (about 2 1/2" size)
ONE, blue lyretail (about 1 1/2" size)
Might be a little off with sizes was doing it by memory!
ANY ADVICE WILL HELP THANKS!
Welcome to the forum! So glad you have joined us!

I see a few areas of concern:
KuhlI loaches should be kept in groups. You could do 10+ in a 55.

Crayfish will eat shrimp, kuhlis, and any fish it can get a hold of.
Tetras and I think endlers are schooling fish so 6+ is required.

If you want to go with larger, consider black red tail shark as your centerpiece fish? They get to about 5-6" and are very active and on display all the time.

abil1111 said:
HI new here so if I posted this wrong I am sorry, please let me know and ill fix it for the future!

I am setting up my 55 gallon tank(no its not ready yet, yes I am waiting until it cycles etc.)
But I would like some advice on if the selection of fish/invertebrates I want will be to much or just right. I have never had a 55 gallon but just about everything else below that.
(yes I have done my research and have talked to fish experts about the species also.)
LIST OF SPECIES:
ONE, orange dwarf cray fish (about 1 1/2")
ONE, vampire shrimp ( about 6" size)
ONE MAYBE TWO, kuhlI loach( about 4" size)
TWO-THREE, snails(Japanese trap door, nerite) ( about 1" and 3" size)
ONE, blood red eye sword tail (about 4" size)
THREE, platys (about 2 1/2" size)
ONE, blue powder dwarf gouramI (about 3 1/2" size)
THREE, guppies ( about 2" size)
ONE, gold dantoid ( about 1-4" size)
ONE, endler live bearer (about 1" size)
ONE, bleed heart tetra (about 2" size)
ONE, german blue ram (about 2 1/2"size)
ONE, cockatoo cichlid (about 2 1/2" size)
ONE, blue lyretail (about 1 1/2" size)
Might be a little off with sizes was doing it by memory!
ANY ADVICE WILL HELP THANKS!
Welcome to the forum! So glad you have joined us!

I see a few areas of concern:
KuhlI loaches should be kept in groups. You could do 10+ in a 55.

Crayfish will eat shrimp, kuhlis, and any fish it can get a hold of.
Tetras and I think endlers are schooling fish so 6+ is required.

If you want to go with larger, consider black red tail shark as your centerpiece fish? They get to about 5-6" and are very active and on display all the time.
 
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I have had dwarf cray fish and they are really peaceful never hurt any of my fish or bottom feeders as long as you keep them fed and lots of hiding places. KuhlI loach I want 2 at fist and will add if I need to. And the sword fish is not a shark it will only get 4"
 

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abil1111 said:
I have had dwarf cray fish and they are really peaceful never hurt any of my fish or bottom feeders as long as you keep them fed and lots of hiding places. KuhlI loach I want 2 at fist and will add if I need to. And the sword fish is not a shark it will only get 4"
Hmmmmm.... maybe I can try a dwarf one. I have wanted one but not to the detriment of any of my fish.

The shark was a suggestion of something that was not on your list because you said in another post you wanted larger fish for this tank.

You will likely rarely see your kuhlis with just 2. They are more comfortable and secure in higher numbers. My black ones are more visible and less shy than the banded ones. It makes me sad because the banded are so pretty with the black and orange colors.
 
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I am sorry about that I read it to fast. I looked into sharks but ive only had rainbow ones and they were aggressive ( I was a kid then though) and ill probably get more kuhlis never had more then 4 before. thanks for the advice. I'm down to the gouramI and 2 cichlids for the fish right now. I still have about a week before my tank should be fully done so ill keep thinking.
 
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