10 Gallon Tank I need a water pump, pumping vertically into aquarium

RuralGuppykeeper
  • #1
I want to buy a water pump for the purpose of moving water from a 3 gallon bucket on my floor into my 10 gallon aquarium. It needs to lift the water at least 4 feet up vertically. Is there any brands or models that are recommended? I do not need it to pump water quickly, if it pumps more slowly that will work just fine for me.
It would be fantastic if the pump has some kind of fail-safe so it cannot burn-out it too low water level as it finishes pumping up most of the water. I'm fine with using an air pump set up for the same purpose, if I only knew how to set it up.

Would this one be acceptable? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075V3XQ7...colid=2ELYFUZ7XOOSA&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1 Does anyone have any recommendations?

The reason is to finally allow myself the luxury of hauling water less manually. I am not interested in the python hoses at this time, largely because I would want to drain the hoses after each use, and I have very limited storage space left.
 

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RayClem
  • #2
I am not familiar with the specific brand, but I have used pumps of similar design.

I would suggest you purchase the one rated for 330 gph. For one thing, it is slightly less expensive.
Also, the 260 gph pump is only rated for a 5 ft lift height while the 330 gph pump is rated for 6.5 ft.

The flow is measured with zero lift height; the greater the lift, the more the flow will drop off. I suspect at a lift height of 4 ft, your flow rate will be too slow with the 260 gph pump.

The 330 gph pump is rated for 6.5 ft lift height, so it will not lose quite as much flow. If the flow rate is not as high as you would like, you can always put your bucket on a stool or chair to reduce you lift height. However, I suspect the flow will be about right for water changes on a 10 gallon aquarium. If the flow rate is too high, you can put a hose clamp on the tube to restrict flow.
 

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RuralGuppykeeper
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
Thank-you
 
diamonfingers
  • #4
I have a similar question, I have a pump rated for 1.5 m/4ft uplift , which is about the distance from the ground to tank. The pump was unable to move the water at all to the tank. It stopped at about the tank's height unable to move over.

I thought surely I must get a much more powerful water pump (3-4x) but ones I saw on amazon are mostly similar 1.5-3m/8ft . I am wondering if I am doing something wrong or if there is a certain setup for it to work correctly like starting a syphon mechanism first although I believe syphon works from top to bottom not the other way around. Maybe the hose I am using is too thick? its about as wide as the canister filter id say 1/2 inch wide?!

I would appreciate any tips on water changes techniques as I currently have RO water buckets from a house RO filter and I just pour them into the tank and its a hectic and troublesome task as the water is heavy and often get spills plus disturbs the fish and agitate the sand.
 
RayClem
  • #5
A centrifugal pump has what is known as a pump curve. On one axis is the backpressure or head against which the pump is pumping. The other axis shows the flow rate. The rated flow is what the pump is able to transfer with zero head. That is a theoretical maximum which is never really obtained as there is always some backpressure due to hoses, fittings, etc. The maximum lift is the height at which the flow rate drops to zero. Thus, if you are using a pump with a 4 ft lift to transfer water 4 ft higher than the pump, the flow will be zero as you noted.

To insure reliable operation, you should always chose a pump that will pump the desired flow rate at the desired head pressure. If you need a lift of 4 ft, selecting a pump with a lift of 6-8 ft should work. The pump with a lift of 8 ft is likely to pump more flow than the one rated at 6 ft.
 
diamonfingers
  • #6
A centrifugal pump has what is known as a pump curve. On one axis is the backpressure or head against which the pump is pumping. The other axis shows the flow rate. The rated flow is what the pump is able to transfer with zero head. That is a theoretical maximum which is never really obtained as there is always some backpressure due to hoses, fittings, etc. The maximum lift is the height at which the flow rate drops to zero. Thus, if you are using a pump with a 4 ft lift to transfer water 4 ft higher than the pump, the flow will be zero as you noted.

To insure reliable operation, you should always chose a pump that will pump the desired flow rate at the desired head pressure. If you need a lift of 4 ft, selecting a pump with a lift of 6-8 ft should work. The pump with a lift of 8 ft is likely to pump more flow than the one rated at 6 ft.

whats confusing is that the canister filter is right next to it and its pumping water with strong flow no problems. could the pump in the canister's cover so much more powerful than this single purpose pump? looks to be so.
 

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