I found a way to get these 2 to sign a peace agreement.

Demontay1
  • #2
Id love too hear the fine details and all the small print
 
TexasDomer
  • #3
Hopefully the peace will last, but I wouldn't expect it
 
Phyllie
  • #4
Id love too hear the fine details and all the small print
Lots of Frog Bit so they each have enough to build their own bubble nest on opposite sides of the 20 gallon tank. The neon bullied the powder blue until the powder blue made his OWN nest to defend. I put a tank divider in for a week, then replaced it with artificial plants. Occasionally I'll catch one sneaking over the invisible barrier to steal the other's frog bit, but he is usually chased back to HIS side of the tank.

Hopefully the peace will last, but I wouldn't expect it
I just hope my LFS doesn't run out of Frog Bit!
 
Phyllie
  • #5
Hopefully the peace will last, but I wouldn't expect it


Yep. you called it. The Great Wall is up again.
 
TexasDomer
  • #6
Yep. you called it. The Great Wall is up again.
I'd rehome one of them. That barrier doesn't look very strong, and there's not a lot of room for each of them with the tank split.
 
Phyllie
  • #7
They are ok. They just put on a show, no biting. Just chasing eachother back to their side of the tank. If there was biting or overly aggressive behavior I definitely would rehome, but it is not necessary in this case.

I'd rehome one of them. That barrier doesn't look very strong, and there's not a lot of room for each of them with the tank split.
I will remove the flimsy barrier in a day or so. It's just a training tool.
 
TexasDomer
  • #8
I will remove the flimsy barrier in a day or so. It's just a training tool.
You're not going to be able to train them to coexist. Their instincts are telling them to defend their territories from rival males, and they'll continue to attack each other until you remove one of them. It's not fair for the fish for you to do this, and you can't train them.
 
Phyllie
  • #9
I respect your opinion, but disagree that they absolutely cannot coexist under the right conditions. But I promise you, I take very good care of my fish and will keep a close eye on them.
 
TexasDomer
  • #10
I respect your opinion, but disagree that they absolutely cannot coexist under the right conditions. But I promise you, I take very good care of my fish and will keep a close eye on them.
I agree, under the right conditions, two male DGs can be kept in the same tank. But your tank doesn't fit those conditions. It's way too small. I wouldn't try it in less than a 75 gal tank (my DG is in a 55 gal, and I can't imagine adding another one in there).
 
Phyllie
  • #11
You must have had a really bad experience with 2 male Gourami.

I agree, under the right conditions, two male DGs can be kept in the same tank. But your tank doesn't fit those conditions. It's way too small. I wouldn't try it in less than a 75 gal tank (my DG is in a 55 gal, and I can't imagine adding another one in there).
I think mine must get along in a 20 gallon because they were tank raised brothers. I received advice from the LFS owner how to set up the tank so they each have their own territory and also how to correct aggressive behavior. It works for me and many others, but I would never generalize and say it works for all.
 
TexasDomer
  • #12
It's not really working for you if you need a divider. I really hope you don't come home to a sick or dead DG, but I would expect it eventually.
 
Phyllie
  • #13
I only use the divider to prevent them from stealing the others frog bit. I hear various opinions. Some rearrange the plants, but the temporary divider works with mine. Different Gourami's have different temperments and personalities. Some think it is cruel to keep only 1 Gourami. I hear so many conflicting opinions.
 
TexasDomer
  • #14
I only use the divider to prevent them from stealing the others frog bit. I hear various opinions. Some rearrange the plants, but the temporary divider works with mine. Different Gourami's have different temperments and personalities. Some think it is cruel to keep only 1 Gourami. I hear so many conflicting opinions.
A male and a female kept together is ideal. It's not cruel to keep one male, but I would consider it cruel to keep two males in a small tank, as you're asking for disaster. I'm not trying to attack you, but I am looking out for the best interests of the fish. On Fishlore, the majority of members would never recommend keeping 2 male DGs together in small tanks.
 
Phyllie
  • #15
A male and a female kept together is ideal. It's not cruel to keep one male, but I would consider it cruel to keep two males in a small tank, as you're asking for disaster. I'm not trying to attack you, but I am looking out for the best interests of the fish. On Fishlore, the majority of members would never recommend keeping 2 male DGs together in small tanks.
Well I guess I'm just the Gourami Whisperer. That or the Michael Vick of Aquatic sports.
 
dennisbro
  • #16
It hasn't stated so but I'm guessing it's either gouramis or bettas. The picture didn't show either.
I guessed right, now that the picture showed I see it's gouramis.
 
Megg01
  • #17
Eventually you're going to come home and one or both of the gourami will be dead. They're fish. You can't "train them" out of natural instincts.
If you want to try and house 2 males together, you'll need a MUCH larger tank as TexasDomer suggested.
Even if the gourami don't kill each other (unlikely), the stress will drastically shorten their lifespan.
 
Phyllie
  • #18
Eventually you're going to come home and one or both of the gourami will be dead. They're fish. You can't "train them" out of natural instincts.
If you want to try and house 2 males together, you'll need a MUCH larger tank as TexasDomer suggested.
Even if the gourami don't kill each other (unlikely), the stress will drastically shorten their lifespan.
Thank you Meggo1, I will keep you opinion on mind. I just ordered a 55 gallon. Will rehome one if it doesn't work out. Though I know many who are experienced enough to make it work, if I can't with their help, I will put one in the 55. So far so good though. But thank you.
 
Demontay1
  • Thread Starter
  • #19
Hoping all is working out for these lovely fish
 
llgarfield90
  • #20
Absolutely beautiful plants️️️
 
llgarfield90
  • #21
And I currently have two male dwarf Gourami in my tank! one powder blue, one regular or whatever you would call it. The regular gourami was first, and a week ago I added the powder. 55 gallon community tank. But they are inseparable and anything but aggressive towards each other. At least for now
 

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