I don't know what to breed :(

HI all

Hopefully, I will soon be acquiring an AquaOne 620, which holds 90 litres, or 23 gallons. I have recently joined a local aquarium society and they have inspired me to start getting in to the breeding side of the hobby. However, my problem is this: I will only have this one tank in which I will be able to do it. I might (might) be able to wangle parental permission to set up my 14 litre/3.5 gallon tank in my bedroom (heater, sponge filter) as a fry tank, but that's it.
So, I need a species that follows roughly the following requirements:
- either won't eat its fry or has fry which can be raised in a 14 litre tank
- won't breed uncontrollably
- won't need me to separate males and female to keep bloodlines pure (I want to do this properly)
- won't need the genders to be seperated after mating due to aggression
- can breed in 90 litres

Sadly, it rules out the two species I really want to do: guppies and betta splendens.
I'm considering corydoras panda, but I hear they are tricky. I've also heard many conflicting opinions on whether or not I could leave the eggs in the tank (it would be species only, or just cories and RCS). If anyone could suggest a good species for me to try or to give me advice on corydoras panda, that would be amazing. Thanks so much!

Bomba

 

yeah, betta are more like 10gal breeder, 40gal grow out plus 1-2gal jars for every male lol. I'm thinking Whit cloud mountain minnows, aI'm for the comet variety.

 

Endlers or Guppies you could try. Personally I like them a lot, but they do breed like crazy if enough males and females!

 

The trouble is, I don't have enough room to keep males and females seperate. I'd want to try for a distinct trait, not let them breed willynilly. Also, I'd have to keep them separate so I could sell off one batch of fry before getting inundated with another. When I have enough tanks, I really want to try it, though.

 

Wcmm don't need to be seperate, they hardly eat any young and are easy to spawn. The meteor lines is amazing and sells WELL.

 

Everything I've read says they should be seperated because they eat their young...

 

Really? Never happened when I bred them. They may eat a few but their not a bad as say danio or such that will eat all their fry. Maybe you should just wait in this case until you have all the propper housing for breeding and such, it might be for the best.

EDIT: just did a stroll through the online care and breeding guides...jeez bunch of nay sayers XD. I guess it depends on the setup or such. I had a 10gal with a TON of plants, java moss, anubias, java ferns and so on, there was plenty of space for the fry to hangout. Plus I kept the parents well fed.

 

Really? Never happened when I bred them. They may eat a few but their not a bad as say danio or such that will eat all their fry. Maybe you should just wait in this case until you have all the propper housing for breeding and such, it might be for the best.

EDIT: just did a stroll through the online care and breeding guides...jeez bunch of nay sayers XD. I guess it depends on the setup or such. I had a 10gal with a TON of plants, java moss, anubias, java ferns and so on, there was plenty of space for the fry to hangout. Plus I kept the parents well fed.

The two big keys! HEAVY planting (it also seems that a gravel substrate with like piles of river rocks helps to this end as well) provides lots of hiding places, and generous feeding of the adults (also being sure to have a school of adults that doesn't max out the tank) should ensure a fairly good survival rate (this is all from stuff I've read, not stuff I've actually done or seen done, so grain of salt on this one).

 

6 white clouds in a 10gal with high filtration and tons of plants plus I used BBS and adult brine shrimp. Best for breeding. They drop their eggs everywhere.

 

You could try a pair or trio of Fundulopanchax Gardneri. They are pretty mild mannered and easy to breed and they're not picky eaters. You may get a few fry surviving in your larger tank if it's planted. For more fry, feed them well for a week then add a spawning mop to the tank. After a day or two move the spawning mop into the smaller tank to hatch the fry.

Another option would be some Tanganyikan shell dwellers. You can leave the fry in with the adults and use your small tank for some shrimp.

 

I wonder if you can't breed BN plecs in a 23gal. I know the minmum tank for 1 is 20gal or something around that but I have a friend that just breed to(accidentaly) in a 40gal. Parents can be kept with eggs and hatchlings until a certain age(then territorial issue come to play)

 

It will be heavily planted, so maybe white clouds are an option after all. And those killies are beautiful! The president of the local killie association is a member of the aquarium society, so I might be able to persuade him to let me buy a breeding pair. I hadn't even thought of killies til now...

 

What about Least KillI Fish (Dwarf Livebearers)? I love mine

The only problem I can see, is getting them from the US to Australia, if there aren't any over there already. Not sure about the rules of shipping fish over borders...

 

ime, australia has INTENSE imoport laws. I was working at a coffee co. in costa rica over the summer and a lot of australian tourists said they couldn't even bring back ground, roasted coffee because it would be confiscated at customs. I'm guessing this is why fish cost so crazy much over there...

 

Wow that's nuts!

 

Yep. It's really hard to get a lot of things through here, whether by mail or in luggage. Some of my last order of pet stuff from the UK got incinerated.