How Would Celestial Pearl Danios Do In A 29 Gallon Community?

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Hello all, first post on this site.

I have a 29 gallon tank that's almost done cycling. It's my first time doing a planted tank. The Ludwigia and Pennywort in the back have been growing like crazy

So my plan for a while has been:

3 Honey GouramI (1M2F)
10-14 Cardinal Tetra
6-8 Panda Corydora



I think two schools of 7 tetras 2" each would be too chaotic.


Celestial Pearl Danios only get around 0.75-1" but I've heard they're pretty shy. Plus they cost around $4 ea.

So I could do something like
1 Honey GouramI (1M)
8-10 Cardinal Tetra
10-15 Celestial Pearl Danio
6-8 Panda Corydora

Thoughts on this?
I'm also open to alternative suggestions for the Cardinals. i.e. Rummynose/Emperor/Silvertip
 

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Watching with great interest! Your first stocking plan (Honeys, pandas) are EXACTLY what I'm planning on, but CPD's were the main fish I wanted.

My 29 is cycled. I took my cycling fish out and was eager to place an order for 24 CPD's when a family member gave me a totally unexpected gift -- three blue rams. Now I'm kind of waffling about what to do.

But anyway, I will be watching this to read what others think.
 
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Ohio Mark said:
Watching with great interest! Your first stocking plan (Honeys, pandas) are EXACTLY what I'm planning on, but CPD's were the main fish I wanted.

My 29 is cycled. I took my cycling fish out and was eager to place an order for 24 CPD's when a family member gave me a totally unexpected gift -- three blue rams. Now I'm kind of waffling about what to do.

But anyway, I will be watching this to read what others think.
1. That's funny that you also wanted Honeys and Pandas. Did you want 1 male 2 female as well?

2. Where were you planning on getting the CPDs? Is about $4 each pretty normal?

3. The 3 blue rams is interesting. I was also extremely interested in 3 Apistogramma Cacatuoides/Agassizii. But I'm pretty sure I can't get the Panda Corys if I get them
 

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I have a large school of them in a 50 gallon community. They do well, exhibit spawning behaviour etc.

Going to buy a 33g soon to put my small fish in so the big fish are left in the 50g, because I can see them getting eaten when the big ones grow up

Sorry I forgot to mention, they are shy alone. I had them in a species tank before I moved them. They were almost always hiding. When I moved them into community with tetras, barbs, cichlids, they were swimming around in the open all the time.
 
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Miaw said:
Sorry I forgot to mention, they are shy alone. I had them in a species tank before I moved them. They were almost always hiding. When I moved them into community with tetras, barbs, cichlids, they were swimming around in the open all the time.
The Cichlid is reassuring. I was worried one 3" Honey GouramI would be too intimidating for them
 

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A 3 inch honey gouramI is fine. There are geophagus steindachneri... convicts...


I'm not saying my cichlids are fine, at their current size they are about 3 inch, with a 4 inch male geophagus. Don't get me wrong the geo could eat them if he wanted but he likes the substrate.
 

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Dunskap said:
1. That's funny that you also wanted Honeys and Pandas. Did you want 1 male 2 female as well?

2. Where were you planning on getting the CPDs? Is about $4 each pretty normal?

3. The 3 blue rams is interesting. I was also extremely interested in 3 Apistogramma Cacatuoides/Agassizii. But I'm pretty sure I can't get the Panda Corys if I get them
1. Yes, I wanted one male, 2 females. I've never kept honeys before. I've heard some people say they can be a challenge, but others say they have never had any serious problems.

2. I have seen them at numerous different prices. $4 each is not bad compared to ones I've seen. The best price I found so far was at Aquatic Arts where they offer a 6 or 12 shoal. If I remember right, the 12 were around $40 -- maybe $38.95? But I also believe they were very small. Let me know what you decide! I'm interested to hear where you got them, the quality, etc.

3. The rams were completely unexpected and it kind of messes up my ideas on temperatures, etc., BUT they were a surprise gift from my daughter! Only a real hard-hearted dad would have complained. I was amazed to discover someone in our home had actually been listening to me when I talked about fish! After a few days, I did mention the rams are doing fine but I'm still a bit concerned about how they will do in my harder water, etc. and that led into a conversation about impulse fish buying, etc. so I was relieved I could get that point across without any hurt feelings.

The rams are looking bright, healthy, and very active -- even showing spawning behavior, but I am going to have to go with a lower temperature than I'd like for rams. I can only hope they'll adjust... If they do, I won't add honeys.
 

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I forgot to reply to this thread when I saw it, and I wanted to say something.
When I first set up my 31.2 gallon tank, I bought Celestial Pearl Danios, that cost me $11.99 a piece, and I spent $144 dollars just to get twelve of them.

Yeah, my LFS had them up for too much.
I was able to get my Cherry Barbs for only $3.99 a piece.
 

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Funny thing is that my experience is
that CPD are pretty good communityfish.
The boldest fish in the tank. Females live in / around a specific plant, males swim around.

When kept in a speciestank / in a shoal the surprisingly get skittish little fish !!!

I'D GIVE IT A TRY !
 

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This has me thinking maybe CPDs for one of my schools in my upcoming 40 gallon. Bet I could do a bunch. Wonder if an EBA would do okay with them though......
 

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DoubleDutch said:
Funny thing is that my experience is
that CPD are pretty good communityfish.
The boldest fish in the tank. Females live in / around a specific plant, males swim around.

When kept in a speciestank / in a shoal the surprisingly get skittish little fish !!!

I'D GIVE IT A TRY !
I'm glad to hear that, Double Dutch! As I wrote, the rams were NOT part of the plan, but I'm going to give it a try.
Glad you are still around to share cory advice!
I'm looking at Panda corys.
 

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DoubleDutch said:
Pandas with honeys and CPD's will do great. Cardinals and rams in fact like a bit warmer water !
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Lovely pandas!
My main problem is my water is harder than ideal for rams or cardinals.
 

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Despite the shyness a carpeted cpd species tank is guaranteed to yield fry every day. Just save them with a turkey baster to put in the fry tank or they do get eaten!
 

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Fanatic said:
I forgot to reply to this thread when I saw it, and I wanted to say something.
When I first set up my 31.2 gallon tank, I bought Celestial Pearl Danios, that cost me $11.99 a piece, and I spent $144 dollars just to get twelve of them
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Celestial Pearl Danios only get around 0.75-1" but I've heard they're pretty shy. Plus they cost around $4 each
Being in Canada I've paid between $9-12 for CPDs, so $4 seems like a steal of a deal to me haha.

Also, and I don't know if it's just the stock I've been getting or what, but I can't seem to keep more than a school of seven. Just tried to up the school to 11 and I only have one lonely little guy left (or they're just that good at hiding lol).They seem like very sensitive little fish, which sucks because their fin colouration is gorgeous.
 

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It might be related to unstable pH or something. I used to have problems with fish dying before I used tetra easy balance. I had kh of 1 or 2 so there were pH swings. Now things tend to just survive
 

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Miaw said:
It might be related to unstable pH or something. I used to have problems with fish dying before I used tetra easy balance. I had kh of 1 or 2 so there were pH swings. Now things tend to just survive
pH has been a stable 7.8 since the tank was set up. Any everyone else (shrimp, corys) are doing fine so I honestly have no clue lol. Not trying to hijack the thread for an answer, just something I've noticed since I've bought over twenty of the little guys and they just disappear.
 
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DoubleDutch said:
Pandas with honeys and CPD's will do great. Cardinals and rams in fact like a bit warmer water !
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So I'm looking at seriously fish

Honey Gourami: 22 to 27°C
Cardinal Tetra: 23 to 29°C
Celestial Pearl Danio: 20 to 26°C
Panda Cory: 22 to 25°C

I was thinking 76°F which would be 24.4°C. Do you think this would be fine?

Edit: added °F
 
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Ohio Mark said:
1. Yes, I wanted one male, 2 females. I've never kept honeys before. I've heard some people say they can be a challenge, but others say they have never had any serious problems.

2. I have seen them at numerous different prices. $4 each is not bad compared to ones I've seen. The best price I found so far was at Aquatic Arts where they offer a 6 or 12 shoal. If I remember right, the 12 were around $40 -- maybe $38.95? But I also believe they were very small. Let me know what you decide! I'm interested to hear where you got them, the quality, etc.

3. The rams were completely unexpected and it kind of messes up my ideas on temperatures, etc., BUT they were a surprise gift from my daughter! Only a real hard-hearted dad would have complained. I was amazed to discover someone in our home had actually been listening to me when I talked about fish! After a few days, I did mention the rams are doing fine but I'm still a bit concerned about how they will do in my harder water, etc. and that led into a conversation about impulse fish buying, etc. so I was relieved I could get that point across without any hurt feelings.

The rams are looking bright, healthy, and very active -- even showing spawning behavior, but I am going to have to go with a lower temperature than I'd like for rams. I can only hope they'll adjust... If they do, I won't add honeys.
Yep I was looking at either Aquatic Arts or Manzanita-driftwood.com I've ordered spider driftwood off their site and everything went well. But never any fish

Fanatic said:
I forgot to reply to this thread when I saw it, and I wanted to say something.
When I first set up my 31.2 gallon tank, I bought Celestial Pearl Danios, that cost me $11.99 a piece, and I spent $144 dollars just to get twelve of them.

Yeah, my LFS had them up for too much.
I was able to get my Cherry Barbs for only $3.99 a piece.
Wow $11.99 a piece is intense

DoubleDutch said:
Funny thing is that my experience is
that CPD are pretty good communityfish.
The boldest fish in the tank. Females live in / around a specific plant, males swim around.

When kept in a speciestank / in a shoal the surprisingly get skittish little fish !!!

I'D GIVE IT A TRY !
That's great to hear that they do better with other species
 

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Dunskap said:
I was thinking 76°F which would be 24.4°C. Do you think this would be fine?

Edit: added °F
That sounds like a good temp, no extremes.
 

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