How to treat cammulus worms during a fish in cycle

I don't mean to appear to be rude bad in anyway but this thread () is from a few days ago and has most of the symptoms and water quality test results. It also explains my current cycling situation also.

The only thing that has changed is that there was a solid poop, and he is a little nit more bloated from the food I gave him today. He is still pretty picky on what he eats, and doesn't eat much. Like 1 of the 4 flakes I gave him this morning. I just thought it was stress, but then I saw cammulus worms I believe. The picture isn't that great, but I saw a red "fork" sticking out his anus. It is very similar to what I have seen online in pictures, and some of his symptoms seem to match up also. Here is the picture
. I could try to get another one later. Another thing that has changed is that I topped off the water and was treated with prime and stress coat.

First off is this cammulus worms or how likely is to be cammulus worms?

Now I am inside the middle of a TSS cycle right now, and I have spring break not this week but the week after. I could be gone for up to a week. Also the filter pad for this tank contains AC, which would have to be removed during the treatment.

I have heard good thing about Levimasole, and looked into it a little. I do have a nerite snail and would have to put him in a smaller unfiltered container with an airpump. I would also have to remove the AC from the filter (just cut it out). However I only have my LFS and Petco here and I don't know about the availability of this product here. Are there any products I should look for that could replace Levimasole?

Also how would this affect my cycle?

Now this question is going to cause quite a stir but would euthanasia and disinfecting everything be another way to go. I know I would have to disinfect everything in the tank as well, minus live plants, and filter pad (I hope). Is this correct (euthanasia or not). The only reason I ask is that I'm a college student with limited space and money. I really don't want to euthanize this fish however, if it would be a good amount cheaper and easier I would consider it.

Finally what would I use to disinfect the tank?

I won't be able to do anything until tommrow about this time anyway. I have a major test tommrow and if I don't do well I would have to drop the class. I'm sorry but this fish isn't worth the 15 something grand an extra semester would be.

Thank you, and I know I spelled cammulus wrong

 

So I actually think it's just red poop. He is currently in the process of pooping and its red and green. He just takes hours to poop. So constipation maybe.

Update: It has to be the dreaded worms. I just shined a flashlight on the fish and saw them sticking out. So I need to treat the fish.

Any advice appreciated

 

I can't figure out how to change the title so this is now the "How to treat cammulus worms during a fish in cycle"

 

I changed the title for you

 

I have no advice to offer you, as camallanus is a nitmare to a guppy or molly breeder. Its like once it gets into your tanks, even dewormers have very limited sucess. I bleached everything bought new filters scrubbed, dewormerd them twice and I still noticed a female with the dreaded paintbrush from anus.
There must be something that kills the eggs, how else do pet stores stay in business if they have gravel in their tanks, as many of them do, and they import guppies from all over once a week, there has to be something you can use to kill the eggs ???
I would like to know myself. I'm suprised he passed a stool at all if you now can see the worms coming out.
It really is a nitmare, ill do some more reading up on it as this is the first time ive ever dealt with it, but I have not been able to get rid of it all year long.

 

Thanks, I actually realized I forgot to update this post. I actually just ended up buying a new tank, new filter, and sanitized with vinegar the other things and dipped the plants in (I might of killed my wisteria doing this). I sure hope those things are gone. I ended up euthanizing the guppy and the snail (I was going to offer it a friend but after reading online it could of been a vector). WARNING about to get graphic as after the guppy had been euthanized I cut it open to see inside its stomach. There was a decent sized red worm mass/ball/thing in it. He was pooping very slowly (took 8 plus hours), and it was clear poop also. I would of treated but there was no medicine in my area. I also heard that livebearers are more susceptible to cammallanus worms than other fish. So I will never get livebearers again. So it was unfortunante what happened, but on the bright side I got a new (bigger) tank, and a real HOB filter. I also learned that the Aqueon Minibow is garbage. Yeah it would work as a betta tank, but I spent 50 buck on this and that's the same price as the 5 gallon minibow.

I am going to leave this thread open only to for discussion about cammallanus worms for anyone else who needs advice or wants to ask a question for this community to answer.

 

IT does usually start with livebearers, but it can spread to any fish. Killed my kids beta, my fancy goldies were unable to pass feces at all, and I had to euthanize the lot of them, it really is a nitmare to a fishkeeper.

 

I had this in my 45 g tank I dosed Levimasole it killed a bunch of them but I let it run its course I ended up only doing 1 time rather than both doses that are recommended it got rid of it. I did not see a recurrence I did not scrub and did not bleach. When I thought I had a case again I used
I still have a dry dose of levimasole on a shelf next to furan 2 both are probably expired...

3 years later no worms I don't get fish from where I got infected and I reported the issue to the main office they had someone out to fix the filters 3 days later apparently they had let the filters on the show tank break down so the whole display was infected they had drained the whole thing sterilized it and fixed the filters...

 

If those dreaded little worms come back then I will do some kind of medicinal dosing to get rid of them. I will also no longer buy fish from that Petco. That's where everything came from, minus the freeze dried bloodworms. It has to be in their system I'm guessing, however I read somewhere that bloodworms can also be vectors for the parasite but this doesn't seem right. Actually I have a question about them. My old tank is (almost all the way drained) and the filter pad thrown out. I don't know if or when I will use it again (maybe a hospital or betta tank for a family member, or a dust collector). Should I/can I get away with not sanitizing the tank once I want to use it again. In other words can the worm survive being dried out and still come back?

 

The eggs survived my bleach and dry, id imagine they could survive a period of brief dryness
Take your time and sanatize everything well my friend, or they will come back.
I bleached and scrubbed and bleached and scrubbed, bought new stuff, little buggars still came back
I hate them they are about to put me out of the hobby completely, too much stress and I'm tired of euthanizing so many fish.
Seems like they "float" because I only saw the eggs on the inside of my fish, never once seen a dead worm or worm at all except sticking out my fishes bum. Only takes a few eggs in the crevice of a cord or corner of a tank and you eventually will get them again. Almost better to throw your stuff in the garbage and buy new stuff and feed new fish medicated fenbendazole or levimasole (or both) or even at least praziquentel "prophalatically" because they just seem to keep coming back. I'm tired ive dealt with them for the whole past year.......

 

Dangit. Well will remove a couple rocks then. Might I sure hope my things are clean enough. If they come back then yeah my tanks done for the rest of the school year.

 

Soak in pure white vinegar.

Don't reuse anything you don't have to

You can also use bleach honestly after those worms I would use all 3 of the chemicals I am going to suggest one after the other rinsing between.

And peroxide would work too.

I would start by removing everything throwing out anything not alive. All your gravel the sponge and ceramic media should all be replaced honestly I would replace the whole filter but it is not that necessary it can be cleaned and the life cycle of these vile little worms requires fish no host eggs can't hatch so a fishless cycle is a good way to go.

Your gravel or sand is just not suitable for tank use now I would dump them in a pot or in the garden, I highly recommend sand it looks better in most cases and is rather cheap.

Wood gets bleach dip then rinse followed by a boiling water treatment.
any rocks that you want to keep bake them in the oven at 250 but be careful they can explode if they have hollows where water is.
plastic decor will need bleach and or vinegar dips separate dips never mix chemicals especially bleach.

Live plants high risk of reinfection due to care needed when treating plants.

Dip in diluted bleach then clean water then reattach to wood or rock.

Run the tank without inverts or fish the larva can't reproduce will starve and die... by the time it is cycled 6 weeks later it should be habitable by fish or shrimp if your tank is under 10 gallon I recommend a single betta or shrimp...

Also I had success with levamisole when I thought I had a reoccurance I used prazI pro.

 

Thanks I did soak in bleach but it was diluted. I did also dip the live plants. Might get some prazI pro then. Will follow your advice if I have to again