How To Tell If My Endlers Are Hybrids?

Kitetra
  • #1
I just got some endlers and was wondering how can I tell if they are pure or guppy hybrids here the video
 
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FishFish221
  • #2
Most likely hybrids. Pure ones are very rare and likely would have cost hundreds for the ones shown in the video.
 
Kitetra
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
Most likely hybrids. Pure ones are very rare and likely would have cost hundreds for the ones shown in the video.
paid the females 5$ each and the males 8$ each, 3 males I'm rather hopeful because this chain is quite serious and only just got them but the guy was away and the lady only knew they are bred in switzerland, I'm waiting to call him and ask more, but that store didnt have any females left so I had to go to another more suspicious shop to get them, if I can ID at least the 3 males as pure endlers I can at some point just move all the hybrids in the community tank and restock the small one when I find pure breeds, I might have found a website but I'm they don't have any now
 
Piaelliott
  • #4
Pure endler females have no color at all. That's all I know
 
_IceFyre_
  • #5
It's pretty safe to assume all Endlers are hybrids. Many of the Endlers in the video have guppy-like patterns. They don't look very pure to me.
 
Kitetra
  • Thread Starter
  • #6
It's pretty safe to assume all Endlers are hybrids. Many of the Endlers in the video have guppy-like patterns. They don't look very pure to me.
so I called the shop and he confirmed the 3 males I bought are pure endlers poecilia wingeI and there's 4 colour variations of them as I said the 10 females and 2 males are from another very suspicious family shop and thought myself they look way bigger than the other 3 and very guppy like, anyways I have now ordered 1 of each male colouration, and 10 females, downside is females cost as much as males there so the whole endeavour is gonna set me back about 120$ next month theyll be here and ill just move all the guppie hybrid in the main community tank.. ill try to get nice pics of the 3 suspects if they stop running all over
 
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Mcasella
  • #7
Unless you have a certification of their location they likely are not pure endler/cannot be traced to pure endler. Hybrids can look pure is one problem, bad documentation of collection location is another.
 
Kitetra
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
Unless you have a certification of their location they likely are not pure endler/cannot be traced to pure endler. Hybrids can look pure is one problem, bad documentation of collection location is another.
yeah but he did check with the supplier if it was an hybrid or not? They have green cobras red flames and all 4 the sorts why should they trouble themselves? They still would sell them... I guess tomorrow ill call back and ask if the supplier can give some sort of certification, worst case scenario they are class P and not N... to be honest the more I look at the 3 the more I think they are almost the same as the pics, while meh, the other ones are def not the real deal, I will move them all (including the supposedly pure males) into the community tank when I get delivery of the supposedly pure male and females worst case scenario they will become less and less guppy like if any fry should make it.

Might be a Swiss thing but I tend to trust what I'm told, hopefully if they feel I might decide not to buy then they will turn out some papers to see what's what ill keep everyone updated
 
Mcasella
  • #9
yeah but he did check with the supplier if it was an hybrid or not? They have green cobras red flames and all 4 the sorts why should they trouble themselves? They still would sell them... I guess tomorrow ill call back and ask if the supplier can give some sort of certification, worst case scenario they are class P and not N... to be honest the more I look at the 3 the more I think they are almost the same as the pics, while meh, the other ones are def not the real deal, I will move them all (including the supposedly pure males) into the community tank when I get delivery of the supposedly pure male and females worst case scenario they will become less and less guppy like if any fry should make it.

Might be a Swiss thing but I tend to trust what I'm told, hopefully if they feel I might decide not to buy then they will turn out some papers to see what's what ill keep everyone updated
As long as you have a documented location of capture of where the species has been found you probably have pure.
 
Piaelliott
  • #10
This seems like an interesting article



I have two female endlers myself, one was a fry that I got as a surprise with other fish I got and the other (who looks like a younger version of the one in the article with a black spot on her dorsal) I discovered as a leftover in the tank from where I got the fish. I got her for free.
 

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