How to get Bolivian Rams to Breed?

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Tank mates: Blue Powder Dwarf Gourami, 3 guppies, 3 albino cories,
I have one male and one female bolivian ram, they are from petco, and were in the same tank when i got them,, but i dont think they were a mated pair.
Its been about a week.
They have both shown signs of courting (shaking head at eachother, chasing in circles, swimming together, female claiming territory by quickly rubbing the substrate)
My ph is about mid 6 ish (6-7 range)
Their colors are quite nice.

Heres some pics of them
Im aware of the male's sunken belly, it appears as if he was not fed well.
No signs of internal parasites or sickness

Some better ones
 

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Given time, good food and good water they should breed on their own. They like to lay on flat surfaces. I don't do anything special and mine are constantly laying. Just have patience while they work things out and pair. Rams are incredibly easy to breed ime. Fry will likely be eaten in the community tank though.
 
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Great info. Thx 4 da help
 

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I used to alternate my playlist from Tesla to Sam Cooke. That and some Indian almond leaves and a spawn would be imminent
 
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Sam Cooke? Playlist? Tesla?
 

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My apologies. A little mood music
 
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Ahh yes, no worries. Just got a bit confused lol.
 

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Seriously, if they are well fed they are happy. If they are happy they will spawn. The skinny ram should be watched carefully. They don’t handle stress all that well and will have an internal parasite take them over

good luck to you! They are great fish
 

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Male does look to have an issue IMO ??
The sunken belly ..If he eats he should not look like that ??
I agree with mood music ,but my guys prefer Barry White ..
I chose my breeding pair from an LFS and they never spawned for 2-3 months ..
I got 3 more from @jmaldo ,added them and presto !
I get eggs every week from one side of tank or the other .
I use pots turned on their sides ..IMO adding the others is what triggered mine but maybe they would have spawned eventually anyways ?
I would look into Prazi or some other wormer for your male ,maybe just me ?
 

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coralbandit said:
Male does look to have an issue IMO ??
The sunken belly ..If he eats he should not look like that ??
I agree with mood music ,but my guys prefer Barry White ..
I chose my breeding pair from an LFS and they never spawned for 2-3 months ..
I got 3 more from @jmaldo ,added them and presto !
I get eggs every week from one side of tank or the other .
I use pots turned on their sides ..IMO adding the others is what triggered mine but maybe they would have spawned eventually anyways ?
I would look into Prazi or some other wormer for your male ,maybe just me ?
Not just you, I noticed in another thread. He now has a thread about his belly. It looked better in one of the pics he sent me today. You would be better able to tell if it's parasites or not than me. Definitely not as it should be.
 
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Yeah, about the belly it has improved a little. His feces is normal, not stringy white. I think he was not eating mich at the store.
 

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Agree with @Feohw @mbkemp @coralbandit
Just relax let them settle in, it's only been a week. I bought a proven pair and it took them 3 weeks to get comfortable enough in their new home to come out and say "Hi".
Then a week later they spawned, if its meant to be "Mother Nature" will encourage them along with as mentioned mood music, :D LOL

Good Luck!
 
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Thanks for the helpful words! Will give them time.
 

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With a skinny male and normal feces watch the anus for a red worm. I hope not. If so, better to catch it early
 
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Just checked him and theres no red worm.
Phew

This cory has been acting a bit wierd.
For a long time he was kinds swimming into the rock and just staying there

okay the male has been pooping for the last 8 or so hours, and its still not released.
its brownish reddish poop
aaand just as i go to take a picture, he finishes.
ah


Just fed them and the male spit out the flakes almost immediatley after putting them in his mouth-- he usually eats some of them
I think he still tries to eat the pellets, though

Oh wait this is the wrong thread
 

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Spitting food out is normal ram behavior ..
Look at it like chewing ..
 

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Your name is telling, INeedHelplol.
What variety of foods do you feed the tank? Some fish are spoiled and hold out until you give them the good stuff. Any frozen or fresh food offered?
Are you doing weekly 50% water changes?
Also, Cory's will do much better in a sandy substrate.
 
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Yes, i really do need help lol.

I feed flakes and pellets
I do 20 to 30 percent weekly waterchanges.
I know the basics
About the sand, im planning to get some pea gravel or some smaller rock or maybe even sand for the tank, to lay iver the present gravel
 

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INeedHelpLol said:
I feed flakes and pellets
I do 20 to 30 percent weekly waterchanges.
I know the basics
About the sand, im planning to get some pea gravel or some smaller rock or maybe even sand for the tank, to lay iver the present gravel
I wouldn't add sand on top of gravel. The sand will fall beneath it and the gravel will come to the top. It will basically be as it is now. When I replaced my gravel with sand the few remaining pieces of gravel worked their way to the top of the sand before long. I wouldn't put pea gravel over the larger stuff either.

And I agree about the spitting. They just do that. Makes food more manageable.
 
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Is he stressed? Kinda dark
Not sure, but his fins are like that most of the time
His stomach improved

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I added an extra decoration to give them more hiding spots, changed the positions of some things
 

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