How much bioload from MTS?

brodylane1122

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So, I just got 6 MTS for my 20 gallon tank. The tank currently has around 35 cherry shrimp (more babies coming soon), but I only plan on keeping 50-75 cherry shrimp in it, and will sell off the excess. My tank also has 5 amano shrimp, 10 neon tetras, and a nerite snail. Filtration is listed on profile. So here would be the stock at it's greatest.

10 neon tetras
50-75 Cherry Shrimp
5 amano shrimp
Nerite Snail

And now with the 6 adult MTS I've noticed I have at least 10 baby MTS already in just a week (and I don't overfeed).
My question is, with my current stock, how many MTS is too many MTS? How much bioload do they create? The reason I ask, is because I will probably sell off the excess of these too. Also, a lot of them will get siphoned out with detritus on the bottom of my barebottom tank.
 

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MTS have a bioload of a shrimp, even less than that in my opinion, so really its not how many is to many but more of how many is to many for you... I have a sanded tank and over 500 MTS in there (29g) and i only see them all at once maybe twice weekly and those are the days I feed algae wafers and frozen plankton... as for over feeding I have found that when starving an MTS will often est its own poop or the poop of other fish/inverts. Very resourceful lol.
 

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I asked the same question shortly after getting my MTS, and the answer was pretty much "inconsequential." I wouldn't worry about it. If you don't overfeed, they'll monitor their population size. After moving my MTS to a different tank, I've only rarely fed them purposely (IE tossed in an algae wafer or earthworm pellet) and they're still doing fine.
 
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Ok, thanks. I only feed my shrimp every other day (sometimes every other 2 days) with about 1/3 to 1/4 algae wafer and 1-1/2 pellet for over 40 shrimp. That's right around 1 algae wafer and 4 pellets a week. Occasionally a small pellet will fall through from my neons that get's eaten up quickly. And I also vacuum about 90% of the detritus from the tank 2x per week, so I can't imagine the population exploding to the kazillions!
 

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They're extremely tough snails. I've had tanks that were broken down for more than 6 months with the sand completely dry then set them up again.

Lo and behold - MTS were back!
 
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Yeah, I want them in the tank. I'm just planning ahead for if I get too many. How many do you all have and in what size of tanks?
 
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Nice pics! And how big are those tanks? Do you even try to keep the numbers down, or do you just let them go cichlidnut?
 

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The pictures are from one of my 55 gallon tanks. When they pile up on food like that, I'll take a few handfuls out. Usually put them in my 125.
 
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Well fortunately, I may have some people interested in buying some of mine locally , which will help with the numbers!
 

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As far as their bio-load, as long as its not thousands of them I always considered them to make up for their impact on bio-load by eating detritus and poop that would be producing waste if left.
 

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I currently have about 300 in my Betta tank. I'd say most are still very little babies ( under 4 months old )
I test my betta tank every week ( that's all thats in there is the MTS and Betta and 1 assassin ) and my water parameters are 0/0/5
Based on that, I believe they have very minimal bioload.
I usually do about a 25% change once a week, and a 50% water change once a month.
My tank is a fluval edge 6.6 gallons
 

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I can confirm that MTS are a very tough little snail which will survive a lot. In June or July I had a major pH crash which killed off all my pond snails, but the MTS survived. My favorite snails.
 
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