40 Gallon Tank How many pregnant livebearers do i have

AquaRain
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Hey, this thread was just for fun so no help needed, this thread is mainly about my female mollies and platies i have + molly fry that i already have that I'll also include pictures off (theres 18 so its hard to catch them all on camera), I'll include pictures below
These are the female adults and 2 young, i took 2 photos of each adult and 1 photo each of the younger ones, i took 2 photos of the first 2 platies but it only uploaded 1 of each of the first 2, the fifth photo is of moonstone, she's a molly (3months old), the tenth photo is of a platy (3-4 months old as she was born about 1-2 months before moonstone, tho she's small for her age, lol), the first 1 is of 1 adult f platy, the next 1 is of another adult f platy, the next 2 ( after moonstone) is snow, she's given birth 4 times ( yes you read that right, 4), the next 2 is of my red f coral platy
These are all the females i have, and they weren't the easiest to get photos of so i apologize if any are bad quality
The fry
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Nanonanny
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If i know Mollies and Platies, they are all pregnant ;)
 
AquaRain
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emeraldking
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I'm not sure if the silver molly is female or not. The analfin makes me doubt. Is it clamped or is it changing into a gonopodium?
 
AquaRain
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I'm not sure if the silver molly is female or not. The analfin makes me doubt. Is it clamped or is it changing into a gonopodium?
She just holds it up most of the time, whats a gonopodium?
 
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adumsoza
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AquaRain
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I think she might be a he but im not sure because if she was a he i would've expected to see her trying to mate, but she hasn't, however snowflake shows lots of interest in mating but still mistaked as a female by the males, moonstone also has the males coming at her
Nah, nvm, i just saw her extend her anul fin, she's definitely a female
Ok, so my corys laid eggs again but not many i can see right now, these 3 were on the leaf and i could successfully remove the leaf and put it in this little container, do these look fertile, btw i just put them in here, do they look like they might hatch, this is my first time doing it
 

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AquaRain
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Fertile? I removed them very carefully and of course a few popped but
90% of them didn't so im proud of myself, i can see a dark spot in almost every one of them which i assume is the baby
They're much darker in person, a brownish tan type of colour
 

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adumsoza
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Fertile? I removed them very carefully and of course a few popped but
90% of them didn't so im proud of myself, i can see a dark spot in almost every one of them which i assume is the baby
They're much darker in person, a brownish tan type of colour
the ones which are pearly white are infertile. if you can see through them, or there is a brown in the egg, they are fertile.
 
AquaRain
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the ones which are pearly white are infertile. if you can see through them, or there is a brown in the egg, they are fertile.
Ok, thats such good news, there are at least 10-30 with brown in the egg and are able to be seen through
 
AquaRain
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Update: overnight a lot more got the brown in the egg and see through, I'd say close to 60-70 now, i really hope they hatch, according to what I've read online they only need 3-5 days, wow thats quick, like really quick, I'll let you know how things go!
 
Nanonanny
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Update: overnight a lot more got the brown in the egg and see through, I'd say close to 60-70 now, i really hope they hatch, according to what I've read online they only need 3-5 days, wow thats quick, like really quick, I'll let you know how things go!
Very cool. Fun stuff
 
AquaRain
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Update, day 3 and 4: so far none have hatched, i do however see tail looking things on a few of the eggs, some translucent and some white, tomorrow will be the 5th day for at least 10-20 and the rest it will be the 4th day, do you think they will hatch, i can see the brown in each egg and some a bit of white which i assume is the baby, i have also done 50-60% water changes when the water becomes a bit cloudy but right now I'm trying to avoid this as i think they might hatch, what do you think?
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After a bit of research i decided to let the container float in the water.
 

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AquaRain
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Update: they all got the fungus last night sigh, the next batch of eggs we get go in a 10g tank
 
adumsoza
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Next time you will need to seperate the fungusy ones from the good ones so they don't all get infected. Sometimes the ones which have fungus still hatch, so keep them around just in case and you might end up with a couple of baby cories.
 
AquaRain
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Next time you will need to seperate the fungusy ones from the good ones so they don't all get infected. Sometimes the ones which have fungus still hatch, so keep them around just in case and you might end up with a couple of baby cories.
Alright
 
AquaRain
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Im gonna be getting 3 beautiful cory pandas on my birthday as all together its 90 dollars
 
ThatBlueOne
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Im gonna be getting 3 beautiful cory pandas on my birthday as all together its 90 dollars
Ooo do show pictures of them when they get added!
 
AquaRain
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Ooo do show pictures of them when they get added!
I will :)
These eggs are from my little sisters tank, she asked me to take a few out and keep them in my room to look after them till they hatch, i think its from a type of corry panda, it is brown with a few big splotches, they didn't look very fertile to me but umm they do have what looks to as yolks/bodies inside of them, if some get fungus because of being infertile or for what ever reason I'll remove those straight away, i didn't take a lot for that reason, hoping that these hatch and if they don't because of fungus than we have more that we can take, theres 15 eggs in here
My dad killed them, my lil sis said that she got consent and then my dad went off and killed them, im not happy about that
Apparently he put them in mum's aquarium
 

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AquaRain
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Ok, so im not a professional or beginner (not anymore at least) but for this, it is a first, i told my male that if he decides to create a bubble web I'd go ahead and try to get a few eggs out of my female bettas, well the moment i said that his eyes lit up and his fin lifted and showed that he was excited and happy but i need your help on how to do it safely as i don't want to accidentally fatally hurt 1 of them, their bellys are huge and they all have white egg looking things by their anul area, i really want this for him but i am not a professional so i am definitely not going to put her in there even though I'd love the thought of them having fry together so this is what i thought of, pls if theres a way to do it safely pls share
Attachments of my male below, my females are blue and dark blue and one with a bit of red
He wasn't flaring it just looks like that in photo, he has white one his gils thats why
Ok i just put them together, oh gosh, im so scared ahhhhh, if they fight they get sapperated
Update: i put him back in his tank, the female was scaring him but they were flirting by flaring, he was just being stressed out though, I'll do this when im older and have another tank i just can't afford it right now
 

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AquaRain
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Snow gave birth last night a bit too early, i really wanted to film it but it was night, however i moved her to a container for a good reason so she could give birth in it, the reason was that since it was her 5th birth the males were hassling her so she was very stressed, she gave birth successfully and had 1 black fry, which i snuck into the quarantine tank with snows 4th batch, don't worry, they probably can't eat this one, also there is 1 also the size of the black one, i just couldn't stop awwing at them
 

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AquaRain
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17 of snows 4th batch went back in yesterday, and i found out that fishes gender can be dependent on temperature, apperantly 22-25c is females, this would explain why i always get males as my temp is 26+ but exceptionally i put it down to 22 hoping for females, as that would even up the raito of males and females, right now i only have 2 females and snow is being hassled too much so i put her in a medi floating tank to isolate her and she gave birth to 6 more unfortunately not alive ones due to males, they got fed to turtle tho as a good snack, she will be in there until the other 17 grow into big enough hope to be females, which is how big moonstone is, as thats the age i find they start to give them attention at
 

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AquaRain
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Bronze Cory dora is currently laying eggs, these are some of them
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AquaRain
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Update: so i thought of trying something a bit different, i have 3 containers set up with 3 little batches of cory eggs, and then in snow midi float tank i have about 2 batches, snow doesn't eat fish eggs or fry and has proved that to me so i am confident in her having those eggs with her, which ones do you think will hatch, im betting on snows batches of eggs and of course i didn't take them all out, i left plenty behind for the others who like them to have a little snack
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They look to me as if they are much.... much... much more fertile than the others that have been put in the containers, this is an experiment only and all possible cory babys will be taken well care of
Moonstones giving birth
 

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AquaRain
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I keep having bad luck, all my eggs a fertile and they keep catching fungus, sigh, next time i just leave them in the 40g and hope for the best, either way, next month 3 new corys get added for my birthday so thats good, I'll add picks when the get added
 
adumsoza
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I keep having bad luck, all my eggs a fertile and they keep catching fungus, sigh, next time i just leave them in the 40g and hope for the best, either way, next month 3 new corys get added for my birthday so thats good, I'll add picks when the get added
You can add a few drops of methylene blue once a day and change 50% of the water.

EDIT: you will also need to oxygenate the water as well as separate them from the aquarium. Stop adding methylene blue when the first fish comes out of its egg.
 
AquaRain
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I thought I'd show you one of my blue lyre tail dalmatians (said to be not genetic) fry, does this mean that my lyre tail dalmatian is a blue lyre tail dalmatian, could it be a new coat colour for this particular species including dalmatians
You can add a few drops of methylene blue once a day and change 50% of the water.
Ok, I'll see if i can order or buy it :)
 

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adumsoza
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I thought I'd show you one of my blue lyre tail dalmatians (said to be not genetic) fry, does this mean that my lyre tail dalmatian is a blue lyre tail dalmatian, could it be a new coat colour for this particular species including dalmatians
The fish probably had a blue lyre tail molly as one of its descendants, so its genes carried out to your fry.
 
AquaRain
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Ok, do you think that its possible that mine had a blue speckled i think it is sailfin molly who bred with a lyre tail Dalmatian as its descendent, i can't find a photo/image online of a blue lyre tail dalmatian
 
adumsoza
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Ok, do you think that its possible that mine had a blue speckled i think it is sailfin molly who bred with a lyre tail Dalmatian as its descendent, i can't find a photo/image online of a blue lyre tail dalmatian
yes
 
emeraldking
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The blue itself is a wild trait. You do see it more often in fancy strains like dalmatian, marble and platinum white sailfins these days. In platinum white mollies, it will be more of a blue shimmer than actually a blue body. And actually it's not rare anymore in fancy sailfins.
 
AquaRain
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The blue itself is a wild trait. You do see it more often in fancy strains like dalmatian, marble and platinum white sailfins these days. In platinum white swordtails, it will be more of a blue shimmer than actually a blue body. And actually it's not rare anymore in fancy sailfins.
Ok, snows not a sailfin shes a normal white molly and thats interesting, whats a wild trait, also why do they not sell blue mollys like the blue ones that i produced from my lyre and snow my white molly, i have seen a adult light blue molly on youtube and boy they are cute i just can't stop awwing at the blue ones and rare coat colours like purple, around here its rare to come across one in a shop or just in general
 
emeraldking
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Ok, snows not a sailfin shes a normal white molly and thats interesting, whats a wild trait, also why do they not sell blue mollys like the blue ones that i produced from my lyre and snow my white molly, i have seen a adult light blue molly on youtube and boy they are cute i just can't stop awwing at the blue ones and rare coat colours like purple, around here its rare to come across one in a shop or just in general
If I look at the build of your molly, it's a sailfin. Just the males will show a sailfin. Females don't. And not all males will develop a real high sailfin.
Yes commerciallywise, light blue mollies seems a bit hard to set up as a steady strain. At least, that it will be passed on in every single generation. Dark blue mollies however are already on the market but on the private market and not the commercial market.
A blue shine on platinum white fish is also normal. No matter what kind of fish it may concern. But in mollies, it's also a wild trait. Dalamtian mollies are also platinum white mollies but with black speckles or blotches. But on clear platinum white mollies it can be more visible. It does differ per individual specimen wether the blue shine is visible all the time or that light has to hit the body to make it visible. But it's there.
The dark blue ones are called "electric blue".

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And overhere a wild male, where you do see the blue shine:

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I can find silver mollies (officially platinum white but the commercial name is "sliver molly"), in almost every fish store in my country. And again depending on the individual specimen, the blue shine is clear or the light hits them before you'll see the blue shine. Because the presence of guanine and they have a lot of iridophores in their skin.
 
AquaRain
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If I look at the build of your molly, it's a sailfin. Just the males will show a sailfin. Females don't. And not all males will develop a real high sailfin.
Yes commerciallywise, light blue mollies seems a bit hard to set up as a steady strain. At least, that it will be passed on in every single generation. Dark blue mollies however are already on the market but on the private market and not the commercial market.
A blue shine on platinum white fish is also normal. No matter what kind of fish it may concern. But in mollies, it's also a wild trait. Dalamtian mollies are also platinum white mollies bit with black speckles or blotches. But on clear platinum white mollies it can be more visible. It does differ per individual specimen wether the blue shine is visible all the time or that light has to hit the body to make it visible. But it's there.
The dark blue ones are called "electric blue".
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And overhere a wild male, where you do see the blue shine:
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I can find silver mollies (officially platinum white but the commercial name is "sliver molly"), in almost every fish store in my country. And again depending on the individual specimen, the blue shine is clear or the light hits them before you'll see the blue shine. Because the presence of guanine and they have a lot of iridophores in their skin.
Ok
 
AquaRain
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Any chance i may come across one or moon my lyre tail's fry may be dark blue i find them very gorgeous and treasure them with my heart
Also are those your fish as they are absolutely stunning
My fish stores here don't sell them sigh so thats why i was really like omg blue, rare coat? this is soo beautiful!!! And i can't see them anywhere in any stores so here its hard to get them or come across, for example im probably 1 out 10000 who has such one here but over other places i can imagine it is a little more easy to get :)
 
AquaRain
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Decided to put up a lot of my mollys of snow on gum tree as my tank has become over crowed but my fry aren't that big yet so i still have time.... What do you think, does this sound good? Its snows fry + 4 males but 11 are staying only 11
If you want to have a look its baby and adult molly fishes for sale thread, i hope this is good and that they find new homes :)
If you put in molly it will pop up, its the first one... Whats your guys thoughts on this?
I currently have 32 in my 40g so i hope they do sell although i was really planning to keep most but the space is not enough so I've decided that with my mums help I'd put em up my mums name is stephanie
I have 14 in a quarantine tank
 
emeraldking
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Also are those your fish as they are absolutely stunning
No, those pics are not mine (with the exception of the last one) but from fellow breeders.
But the following male is mine:

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You do see the blue shine beautifully through...
 
SparkyJones
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with eggs, it can be difficult to keep the fungus at bay and get them hatched.

From my experience, I didn't have luck with methelyene blue, there was very little difference in the fungus rate, and made everything blue.

I find eggs of cories and angelfish hatch the fastest at 82F temp. too much hotter than that is no good, and colder takes longer. right around 82F give or take a degree has the eggs hatching to right around 60-72 hours. if you are going into day 4 or day 5 before they hatch fungus will overrun the eggs by then.

I also find for container or jar rearing, an airline and airstone is necessary to keep water movement.

And my top secret, using chlorinated tap water. That keeps the fungus at bay and offgasses by the time they hatch using the 82F temp. The combination will have white eggs still, but they won't get hair with the white fungus on them and spread because by the time the chlorine wears off and the fungus can grow, the eggs are over the halfway mark to hatching and about a day or so off from it.

That said, the water is not cycled at all and is just coming off being chlorinated. After they hatch, they need to get water changes with dechlorinated water, and can't be fed in that container, they have to move to a cycled environment before feeding and pooping starts. They can stay in the container with water changes, up until they absorb the yolk sack, but no longer than that.

Just some thing I've tried that works for me, and might help you with your egg layers to getting fry.
 
AquaRain
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No, those pics are not mine (with the exception of the last one) but from fellow breeders.
But the following male is mine:
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You do see the blue shine beautifully through...
Ok, and woah, that is absolutely stunning ❤
with eggs, it can be difficult to keep the fungus at bay and get them hatched.

From my experience, I didn't have luck with methelyene blue, there was very little difference in the fungus rate, and made everything blue.

I find eggs of cories and angelfish hatch the fastest at 82F temp. too much hotter than that is no good, and colder takes longer. right around 82F give or take a degree has the eggs hatching to right around 60-72 hours. if you are going into day 4 or day 5 before they hatch fungus will overrun the eggs by then.

I also find for container or jar rearing, an airline and airstone is necessary to keep water movement.

And my top secret, using chlorinated tap water. That keeps the fungus at bay and offgasses by the time they hatch using the 82F temp. The combination will have white eggs still, but they won't get hair with the white fungus on them and spread because by the time the chlorine wears off and the fungus can grow, the eggs are over the halfway mark to hatching and about a day or so off from it.

That said, the water is not cycled at all and is just coming off being chlorinated. After they hatch, they need to get water changes with dechlorinated water, and can't be fed in that container, they have to move to a cycled environment before feeding and pooping starts. They can stay in the container with water changes, up until they absorb the yolk sack, but no longer than that.

Just some thing I've tried that works for me, and might help you with your egg layers to getting fry.
Ok, thanks for helping me, i really do appreciate it :)
Omg, the moment i sent reply my cory started laying eggs, if one hatches I'll keep it, im just so full right now and im already sobing from the inside as i need to give up 9 of my 18 so 9 are left and im dreading the thought although i know its the right thing to do
 
AquaRain
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Noooo, the fungus from the eggs spread to the snails and now its on every plant im crying im soo scared for all my fishes
I wanted to move all the important ones but i can't
No, those pics are not mine (with the exception of the last one) but from fellow breeders.
But the following male is mine:
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You do see the blue shine beautifully through...
Is blue planet multicure from pet barn good for now, gosh im freaking out pls pls pls be good
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My mum ordered it just now
 

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